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Torn between my exDH and new guy

35 replies

Firecrystal · 16/11/2024 12:30

Hi all,

I feel in such a dilemma and don't know what to do. Basically I separated from my ex dh early this year. We'd been married for over 20 years, and things between us had been difficult for a very long time. Job stresses, family bereavements, house moves, and two neurodiverse dc who needed a lot of care when younger, all took their toll on our relationship. My exdh became angry, cold, withdrawn, blamed me for a lot of things, and told me a few years ago he'd fallen out of love with me. He also used to be quite emotionally abusive eg not talking to me for days, throwing objects at the wall, punching doors etc.

I spent the last few years desperately trying to make everything work, counselling etc but nothing did. I was so stressed and upset all the time, and during this time was also diagnosed with ADHD.

Anyway my ex and I split and we've been living apart for 9 months or so. Things are so much more peaceful for us both and the dc have seemed to adjust well. My ex and I still see each other a fair amount with drop offs and still help each other out with various things.

Anyway I met another guy about a year ago. I was going through the separation at the time. I met him through this hobby we do and we both really liked each other, it was obvious. We get on so well, and honestly I've never felt like I've connected with anyone like that before, we just seem to really get each other. It's obvious we both find each other physically attractive too. When my exdh and I separated, after a few weeks the new guy asked if I wanted to meet for coffee. I said no as I just felt it was too soon and I had too much to sort out. Months have now gone by and we still see each other at the group and still like each other. He made it clear again that he'd like us to meet up but again I said no. We did have a bit of a talk about things and he said he really likes me and would really love for us to be in a relationship. I'm not sure what's holding me back. I think I feel that I am still processing everything from the break up with my ex as to be honest it was so toxic for ages.

The thing is that now my ex and I are separated we get on so much better. It's been so good for us both to have space and I think we both like the freedom of living alone (we share custody of our dc).

My ex has said (and I agree) that he thinks he is neurodiverse, and that's partly why he used to get so stressed about everything, and not be able to cope with all the demands of work and family life. He has also been depressed and anxious for most of his life. Now he's living a much simpler life, he's a lot happier. The confusing thing is that in some ways, neither of us seem to be moving on. He has said that he really doesn't want the hassle of another relationship and is not looking for that at all. I know it sounds strange, but I get the feeling that he still loves me. He's a traditional family man type.

But I feel so confused about everything. I still feel like I have a deep love for him, but I'm not sure in what way. I still get on with him and have interesting conversations, and I know I'd still enjoy it if we went out for dinner or watched a film together. Now that he seems less stressed and moody, he's more like when I first met him, and I feel comfortable and relaxed with him.

But I also have deep feelings for this other guy. He is someone who I feel very physically attracted to, mentally stimulated and challenged, and we share a hobby/ interest that we are both passionate about. But he doesn't have children, is not a "family man" type (although he does like children), and we have had quite different experiences and backgrounds in life. But I am so drawn to him. I tried to forget about him and stopped going to the group for a bit as I just felt really confused about everything, but I couldn't stop thinking about him.

I have just started therapy in an attempt to make sense of all my feelings! I don't know if what I'm feeling for my ex is just familiarity and attachment, or if he and I just had very stressful circumstances/ neurodiversity etc which then proved to be too much pressure on the relationship. We have all been heartbroken about the break up of the family - I just don't know if I should give it another go with him. The new guy, I feel strong feelings for, but I just don't know how a relationship with him would fit into my life, it seems so scary to think about being with someone new, as I was such a devoted wife and family person (I know that probably sounds a bit strange but I can think how else to say it!)

Sorry this post is so long, but I didn't want to drip feed. Can anyone relate or has anyone experienced something similar?

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Pennyduke564 · 16/11/2024 13:55

I would give it a go with the other guy

ThianWinter · 16/11/2024 13:58

You’ve separated from your husband for very good reasons. Why not go on a few dates with the new man? You’ll never know what you’re missing if you don’t try.

Firecrystal · 16/11/2024 14:58

Thanks.

I just feel like if I went back to my ex, it would feel so familiar and safe. Its been my whole life for over 20 years and I know him inside out. It feels reassuring being with him in a way, as I am pretty sure he would always be loyal and reliable and he loves us and the dc being together as a family, and doing family things. If we did get back together, I wouldn't want to live with him again, and I think us having our own places would definitely be better. BUT I know how stressed he gets about things, how anxious and depressed he can be. He likes to live a very small, safe life, and doesn't like changes in routine or going abroad.

I think I would feel so guilty if I ever did get wjth this other guy, as I think my exDH would be very hurt. My ex still says things like he wants to make sure I'm ok financially when we split, as I earn a lot less than him. He is a sweet, good guy, and I do feel love for him, but our relationship was so toxic by the end.

I feel I'm almost not giving myself permission to move on, as I don't feel I can without my ex also moving on. I know it must be awful when a marriage ends because of an affair, or someone getting into a relationship straight after a split, but I guess it would at least maybe give a clean break and ending to the relationship for both people (I'm not saying that's at all an easy scenario though).

I'm pretty sure that life with the other guy would be much more fun, loving, adventurous and fulfilling, but it's obviously a gamble as you don't ever really know anyone until you are in a relationship with them. At the moment I am seeing all his good points, but like everyone I'm sure he has his bad points too.

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Bakedpotatoes · 16/11/2024 15:01

The only reason your ex is less stressed and more like the man you met is because he's not engaging in daily family life. If you went back to him it would be exactly the same. Don't do it.

Give the new guy a chance.

LostittoBostik · 16/11/2024 15:04

Don't go back to your ex. You know how it works out with him - he can't cope with real life, and you'd be stuck back in old patterns.

Only you know the answer to whether or not you're ready to date again.

Pinkissmart · 16/11/2024 15:12

OP, you don’t have to make ANY lifetime decisions right now.

It is very very common for people to try and make things work with an ex after they split up. The problems fade into the background a bit, you only see the best of each other, but this does not mean the problems go away. The habit and familiarity of a long term partner goes both ways- it’s easy to slip back into patterns.
You separated after putting a great deal of effort into rescuing things- it didn’t work. Trust that.
In the meantime, there is absolutely nothing wrong with going on a few dates. You’re not agreeing to marry this new guy.

However- when are you going to put energy into just looking after yourself?

Tafelberg · 16/11/2024 15:13

I don’t think someone who ignores you for days, throws stuff at the wall and punches doors can really be described as a sweet, good guy. I agree with PP, if you went back that side of him would soon come back out.

Summerhillsquare · 16/11/2024 15:14

What's attractive about a small safe life?

MounjaroUser · 16/11/2024 15:17

But the new guy is not a family guy, is he, and you have children with high needs, so that is never going to work out.

BCSurvivor · 16/11/2024 15:21

OP, I really don't think going back to your ex because "he feels familiar and safe" is a good enough reason.
You've already said he was emotionally abusive.

Firecrystal · 16/11/2024 15:28

@Bakedpotatoes "The only reason your ex is less stressed and more like the man you met is because he's not engaging in daily family life."

Yes that's a good point. He's not actually working at the moment either, although he is looking for work so will hopefully get a new job soon. I think that's also why he's less stressed at the moment.

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Cece92 · 16/11/2024 15:31

You really have nothing to lose by going for a coffee and if you feel your not ready then your not ready. You deserve to be happy xxx

Babbahabba · 16/11/2024 15:33

The answer is not a man. The answer is healing yourself.

Don't go back to your ex- that way madness lies. Be cautious of new man- he might be genuine or he might be honing in on you because you're vulnerable. You don't want to end up in another abusive relationship.

If you decide to date new man- take it slow and look out for red flags (love bombing etc).

Have some counselling, read some self help books, socialise with friends, go to some hobbies, get fit, concentrate on your career etc etc. build a life and identity for yourself that isn't build around having a man. It will only stand you in good stead for when you do decide you're ready for another relationship (should say if- they're not mandatory).

Pennyduke564 · 16/11/2024 15:35

Was he your husband

Babbahabba · 16/11/2024 15:38

My last relationship wasn't abusive but the biggest regret I have is moving straight onto another bloke. I have done and am doing all the things I told you to try but I didn't give myself a chance to grieve my ex and build a proper identity and sense of self esteem that isn't linked to being in love/a bloke loving me, despite spending many years single and independent when I was younger (I'm mid 40s).

New bloke isn't remotely abusive but I am in a situation now that I don't want to be (don't want to expand) and I struggle to extricate myself from it because I hunger too much for the validation from a man. To some degree of course it's natural to want to be loved- we're only human but how I wish I'd been stronger to have that gap (I ended my last relationship but moved straight onto new man). I am building up my strength and will get there but I've done it the wrong way around.

Livinghappy · 16/11/2024 15:42

Your feelings for your ex are normal and natural. The attachment will still be there after 20 years. It's why people are advised not to rush into another relationship quickly because it takes time to detach from a long relationship. How are you managing finances if ex isn't working?

How old are the dc? If still fairly young, how will new man fit into family life? What is his relationship history? Whilst he appears to be acting respectfully you are emotionally vulnerable due to separation so just be aware that can lead to false attachments.

cheezncrackers · 16/11/2024 15:44

I wouldn't go back to your ex, because why would it work now when it didn't before? Yes, you get on better now you're apart, but that suggests to me that you work okay as co-parents and friends, but didn't work as a couple.

Maybe you don't feel ready for a new relationship? If that's honestly it and you can take your ex out of the equation and know that you're still healing and not in the right head space for a new relationship, then fine. But ask yourself this - if this nice new man found someone else to be in a relationship with how would you feel? If the answer is 'gutted' then go for a coffee with him. Take some baby steps and see where it goes.

Frostycottagegarden · 16/11/2024 15:50

You need to focus on yourself right now.

Definitely don't get back with your ex. You are still trauma bonded, which is what is making you feel that pull back to him. You need to break that trauma bond and fin yourself before you do anything else.

Saying that, if this new guy is willing to keep it fun and light, and if you enjoy his company (and frankly if the sex is good), I'd give it a go. But definitely not in a "future together, move in" kind of way.

Find yourself, even if that sounds corny.

Firecrystal · 16/11/2024 15:52

@Pinkissmart yes that's true, I must remember that I wouldn't be agreeing to marry the new guy!! I think maybe part of the problem is that I feel I get quite serious about relationships, I mean, I was about my marriage, and now I'm feeling like I'm wondering if this new guy is going to be the one I'm with for the rest of my life! 🤦‍♀️I'm just not used to casually dating, I've never done it.

Re putting energy into myself, thanks for the reminder. I think I always focussed so much on my ex's mental health needs and state of mind during our marriage, and I'm clearly still doing it! I'm actually really enjoying having my own space at the moment, more time to myself, going to the gym etc as its definitely been a grieving and healing process.

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Firecrystal · 16/11/2024 15:58

Tafelberg · 16/11/2024 15:13

I don’t think someone who ignores you for days, throws stuff at the wall and punches doors can really be described as a sweet, good guy. I agree with PP, if you went back that side of him would soon come back out.

I know, that's why I've been so conflicted. Honestly, there's two sides of him - i said when i was in the relationship with him that he was like Jekyll and Hyde. The side that's nice is caring, sweet and reliable, and that's the side that I'm seeing at the moment. But I'm sure as you say, that I would see the other side again if I got back in a relationship with him. I just have to keep reminding myself about that

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Pennyduke564 · 16/11/2024 16:00

Was it your husband

Firecrystal · 16/11/2024 16:00

Summerhillsquare · 16/11/2024 15:14

What's attractive about a small safe life?

I know on paper it's not at all attractive, I guess it's like it's familiar and would give a feeling of security. But I need to remember that when I was with him, I felt very forced to live this "small, safe life" with him, and I felt controlled and stifled as I couldn't live in the way I wanted to.

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Firecrystal · 16/11/2024 16:01

Pennyduke564 · 16/11/2024 15:35

Was he your husband

Yes

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Pennyduke564 · 16/11/2024 16:01

Well I would give it a go with the other guy

Loopytiles · 16/11/2024 16:10

Going back to your ex seems a very bad idea for you. He was abusive and unkind to you. He is not ‘safe’. Easy for him to be nicer to you from afar now - who is doing more of the parenting - you?

If you like the new guy and feel ready to date, great, if not don’t!