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Torn between my exDH and new guy

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Firecrystal · 16/11/2024 12:30

Hi all,

I feel in such a dilemma and don't know what to do. Basically I separated from my ex dh early this year. We'd been married for over 20 years, and things between us had been difficult for a very long time. Job stresses, family bereavements, house moves, and two neurodiverse dc who needed a lot of care when younger, all took their toll on our relationship. My exdh became angry, cold, withdrawn, blamed me for a lot of things, and told me a few years ago he'd fallen out of love with me. He also used to be quite emotionally abusive eg not talking to me for days, throwing objects at the wall, punching doors etc.

I spent the last few years desperately trying to make everything work, counselling etc but nothing did. I was so stressed and upset all the time, and during this time was also diagnosed with ADHD.

Anyway my ex and I split and we've been living apart for 9 months or so. Things are so much more peaceful for us both and the dc have seemed to adjust well. My ex and I still see each other a fair amount with drop offs and still help each other out with various things.

Anyway I met another guy about a year ago. I was going through the separation at the time. I met him through this hobby we do and we both really liked each other, it was obvious. We get on so well, and honestly I've never felt like I've connected with anyone like that before, we just seem to really get each other. It's obvious we both find each other physically attractive too. When my exdh and I separated, after a few weeks the new guy asked if I wanted to meet for coffee. I said no as I just felt it was too soon and I had too much to sort out. Months have now gone by and we still see each other at the group and still like each other. He made it clear again that he'd like us to meet up but again I said no. We did have a bit of a talk about things and he said he really likes me and would really love for us to be in a relationship. I'm not sure what's holding me back. I think I feel that I am still processing everything from the break up with my ex as to be honest it was so toxic for ages.

The thing is that now my ex and I are separated we get on so much better. It's been so good for us both to have space and I think we both like the freedom of living alone (we share custody of our dc).

My ex has said (and I agree) that he thinks he is neurodiverse, and that's partly why he used to get so stressed about everything, and not be able to cope with all the demands of work and family life. He has also been depressed and anxious for most of his life. Now he's living a much simpler life, he's a lot happier. The confusing thing is that in some ways, neither of us seem to be moving on. He has said that he really doesn't want the hassle of another relationship and is not looking for that at all. I know it sounds strange, but I get the feeling that he still loves me. He's a traditional family man type.

But I feel so confused about everything. I still feel like I have a deep love for him, but I'm not sure in what way. I still get on with him and have interesting conversations, and I know I'd still enjoy it if we went out for dinner or watched a film together. Now that he seems less stressed and moody, he's more like when I first met him, and I feel comfortable and relaxed with him.

But I also have deep feelings for this other guy. He is someone who I feel very physically attracted to, mentally stimulated and challenged, and we share a hobby/ interest that we are both passionate about. But he doesn't have children, is not a "family man" type (although he does like children), and we have had quite different experiences and backgrounds in life. But I am so drawn to him. I tried to forget about him and stopped going to the group for a bit as I just felt really confused about everything, but I couldn't stop thinking about him.

I have just started therapy in an attempt to make sense of all my feelings! I don't know if what I'm feeling for my ex is just familiarity and attachment, or if he and I just had very stressful circumstances/ neurodiversity etc which then proved to be too much pressure on the relationship. We have all been heartbroken about the break up of the family - I just don't know if I should give it another go with him. The new guy, I feel strong feelings for, but I just don't know how a relationship with him would fit into my life, it seems so scary to think about being with someone new, as I was such a devoted wife and family person (I know that probably sounds a bit strange but I can think how else to say it!)

Sorry this post is so long, but I didn't want to drip feed. Can anyone relate or has anyone experienced something similar?

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Hoppinggreen · 16/11/2024 16:12

Its never the Ex
Maybe he is ND, no excuse for his behaviour though
It might explain but doesn't excuse

Firecrystal · 16/11/2024 16:14

@Babbahabba Thank you. Yes, I am having counselling and reading self help books. I feel since my ex moved out 9 months ago, I've very much retreated into myself. Before my ex and I split I spent the previous year or two endlessly speaking to (and probably boring!) friends and family about the situation, but as soon as we split it was like I felt I didn't want to talk to anyone, see anyone or socialise. I feel I'm coming out of that a bit now and starting to meet up with friends, organise one or two social activities etc.

I totally agree, I think it is so important to build up a sense of identity and self esteem after a long relationship. My self esteem was rock bottom and I felt like I didn't know who I was, or what I liked.

I know what you mean about hungering for the validation from a man. I think this was part of the problem with the new guy, we met at a time when I was very emotionally vulnerable, so having someone who seemed to really like me and we were mutually attracted to each other just felt so amazing to me, after years of cold, angry behaviour from my ex.

I'm late 40s and Iike you, spent many years single and independent, with no particular desire for a boyfriend when I was younger. It's strange that I've realised that part of me is craving being with a man now, but I think maybe it's just the shock of going from being in a long, committed relationship and then the sudden realisation that I'm now single.

I'm sorry to hear you're in a difficult situation now, and I hope you also manage to focus on yourself and build up your strength, so you can do what will be best for you - it can be so hard.

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Firecrystal · 16/11/2024 16:21

MounjaroUser · 16/11/2024 15:17

But the new guy is not a family guy, is he, and you have children with high needs, so that is never going to work out.

My dc did have high needs when they were younger but they are both much more independent now and I would say their needs are now a similar level to any other teenagers.

Re the new guy not being a family guy, it's definitely a concern of mine as he's never had dc, and I don't really know how it would all work. But then again it wouldn't be necessarily ideal if I met a guy who had an ex partner and dc as there could be different issues there. I guess it's never going to be the ideal scenario!😂

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Cerialkiller · 16/11/2024 16:23

Are you concerned that if you started a relationship with the new guy and your ex found out that he could make your life difficult? That it could effect your (currently decent) coparenting relationship? Also if he is in a nice phase and you haven't legally/financially separated then keeping him sweet or not could have an impact on any settlement or how difficult he could make the devorce.

It isn't wrong to consider this impact. Who wants all that drama in their lives. Is a unknown new man worth the possibility of the above?

I would be tempted to initiate the devorce, get that sorted. Say to new man you want to sort the devorce before considering another relationship. This will give you time to work on yourself. Feel free to go out with the new man for drinks with friends, expand your own life. Keep the relationship with the ex on a even keel and take your time.

Firecrystal · 16/11/2024 16:27

@cheezncrackers "But ask yourself this - if this nice new man found someone else to be in a relationship with how would you feel? If the answer is 'gutted' then go for a coffee with him."

I think this is why I've been feeling a bit of pressure about all this (not from him, from myself). I would feel heartbroken if he got into a relationship with someone else, and to be honest I can't expect him to wait around forever for me to be ready. I've heard from friends and on mumsnet how difficult it is to meet people in your forties onwards, where you both genuinely connect with each other and feel a spark. I don't think it's that common.

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Firecrystal · 16/11/2024 16:35

Cerialkiller · 16/11/2024 16:23

Are you concerned that if you started a relationship with the new guy and your ex found out that he could make your life difficult? That it could effect your (currently decent) coparenting relationship? Also if he is in a nice phase and you haven't legally/financially separated then keeping him sweet or not could have an impact on any settlement or how difficult he could make the devorce.

It isn't wrong to consider this impact. Who wants all that drama in their lives. Is a unknown new man worth the possibility of the above?

I would be tempted to initiate the devorce, get that sorted. Say to new man you want to sort the devorce before considering another relationship. This will give you time to work on yourself. Feel free to go out with the new man for drinks with friends, expand your own life. Keep the relationship with the ex on a even keel and take your time.

Yes I am a bit worried how my ex would react if I started seeing someone. I don't actually know if he would just get really hurt and depressed, or angry. He's told me that he's planning not to have another relationship again, I'm not sure why, and I feel sorry for him as he's told me he's lonely.

But yes maybe I do need to look at separating finances/ getting a divorce, as I feel a bit in limbo at the moment.

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Firecrystal · 16/11/2024 16:42

Thanks all for the replies and advice. I am going to spend more time working on myself, putting energy into myself and working out what I want. I think I'll see how I feel in a few weeks/month or two, and if I feel ready, I could go for a casual date with the new guy, as I do really like him.

When I started this thread I was honestly feeling like I could get back with my ex, but reading all the replies has helped me realise that I've been lulled into a false sense of security by our pleasant co parenting relationship, and that I do need to remember that he has a nasty side to him. Also I think the feelings of love and attachment to him that I feel could definitely be a trauma bond, as a PP mentioned.

Thank you all again. I will re read this thread again in the future if I have another wobble!!

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GoggleBall · 16/11/2024 20:13

You currently have two men dangling on a string.

This is not cool towards you husband, either end it properly and divorce, stop giving him the hope of getting back with you.

Spend time on your own and then date, if this new guy likes you he will wait.

rwalker · 16/11/2024 20:19

The reason you and your ex are getting on is because your living separately

TipsyJoker · 16/11/2024 20:19

Firecrystal · 16/11/2024 15:58

I know, that's why I've been so conflicted. Honestly, there's two sides of him - i said when i was in the relationship with him that he was like Jekyll and Hyde. The side that's nice is caring, sweet and reliable, and that's the side that I'm seeing at the moment. But I'm sure as you say, that I would see the other side again if I got back in a relationship with him. I just have to keep reminding myself about that

Sounds like the cycle of abuse to me. Horrible, then nice to suck you back in and keep you sweet, knock you off balance and make you think he’s not really that bad, only to then be horrible again.

I just feel like if I went back to my ex, it would feel so familiar and safe

People tend to confuse familiarity with safety but that’s not actually correct. Familiarity feels safe because it’s what you’re used to but people repeat familiar patterns all the time which are actually bad for them. Like staying with an abusive partner or picking the same type of partners. People are drawn to the familiar in people they have only just met without realising that’s what they’re doing. Going back to your ex might be familiar but that doesn’t mean it’s safe. Stepping outside your comfort zone will probably feel scary and uncomfortable but no-one ever experienced anything marvellous by staying in their cosy little safe zone. Life is about experiences.

By the same token, be wary of entering into a new relationship until you’ve really explored who you are, as your own person. I would also suggest you do some work on building self esteem, assertiveness, how to establish boundaries and maintain them. Reason being, you’re 20 years living with an emotionally abusive man demonstrates that you’re perhaps not skilled in those areas and could use some help developing those skills. Being with someone who’s emotionally abusive will deplete your self esteem massively too. Here’s a little starter workbook you could have a look at

https://emmaashford.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Learning-to-be-assertive-workbook.pdf

There’s no reason you can’t go on fun dates in the meantime with this new guy, or any other guy you might take a liking to. Keep it fun and don’t commit to anything. You can get to know each other. It’s best to not rush into anything. Do things on your own terms. There’s a big wide world out there full of possibilities and it’s entirely up to you how you find your place in that and how you chose to experience it.

https://emmaashford.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Learning-to-be-assertive-workbook.pdf

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