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Disappointed with my partner. Advice needed!

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Ballinaire · 05/11/2024 13:32

I have been with my partner for 8 years, and we have a house and two children together. I love him so incredibly much, and we have had so much fun together during our 8 years. I have felt loved by him, but despite this, there are some things that have caused friction that I have suppressed. Now I have found myself in a situation where I can't shake the thought that he may have taken me for granted for a long time.

To summarize, I was born and raised in Scandinavia and am not religious, while he has a Catholic mother who has tried to get rid of me since day one. She has made nasty comments about our relationship, saying that we won't last and that my partner has no plans to marry me, etc. A recurring nasty "joke" I've heard is that his younger sister will get to the altar before us and actually even his brother has said this out loud too which makes me wonder how we come across as a couple to his family. However, since we had our son about 3 years ago, his mother has improved because she wants to spend time with her grandchild, but she still says things that imply she sees me as a temporary person in his life or at least a temporary partner. What makes me so sad about all this is that I can't remember a single time when he has actually stood up for me/us and said something to his mother. Fortunately, I don't have to see her that often anymore since we moved to my home country, but we visit his family about twice a year and stay in her house.

Recently, the topic of marriage has come up a couple of times, or at least I've tried to bring it up with my partner, but it's a subject he prefers not to talk about. He seems to find it uncomfortable and has expressed that he'd rather just "sign the papers" and get it over with. This makes me sad because I wasn't under the impression that he has no interest in having a wedding. He knows that I'm not interested in having a big fancy wedding, but I've always been clear that I want some form of celebration when it happens, if it happens. I'm not a hopeless romantic, but the thought that the person I've spent 8 years with and who I have children with doesn't seem to want to celebrate our marriage in any way other than signing documents and possibly eating out at a restaurant somewhere – it hurts.

A more specific event that I am also disappointed about is that when I turned 30 almost two years ago now, I organized a birthday party and invited friends/family for dinner. My partner didn't give me a present then but said he would treat me to a weekend somewhere at a later time, but that obviously never happened. However, his sister, who had an insignificant birthday that same year, received a gift card to go to a spa. His other sister also got a contribution for a trip abroad when she turned 40. My 30th birthday present was forgotten about and was never mentioned again.

Recently, I reached a breaking point when his younger sister turned 30 and was majorly celebrated and even getting proposed to by her boyfriend whom she has been dating for barely two years. Of course, it's great for them, but I was overwhelmed by a bitterness I hadn't felt before. Probably because my partner's mother and brother's mocking jokes have now come true. The bitterness didn't improve when I found out that he wanted to treat his sister to yet another spa day since she turned 30, wanting to give her something nice that she would appreciate. To add, my partner often complains about how little money he has, and the focus is often on cost the few times we actually do something. Both of his sisters are said to be doing very well financially and have partners who spoil them, and going to a spa wouldn't be a particularly unusual activity for them. Meanwhile I'm the one who's stood by him through some pretty rough times as he's had some health scares and surgeries in the past few years, I'm the mother of his kids and I didn't even get as much as a flower or card on the most significant birthday I've had so far whilst being together with him. I need a god damn day at the spa. I'm wrecked!! How on earth do I get over this bitterness I'm feeling?? He has said he's very sorry and didn't realise I felt this way but I'm just having a real hard time getting over things that I've been reflecting over lately.

Any advice on this is very appreciated. Thank you!!

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Fraaahnces · 05/11/2024 13:40

I think you know what to do… Take the kids back to Scandinavia. They will have a better quality of life there and you will be happier when you live on your own terms. This man has shown you repeatedly how much value he has for you.

username7891 · 05/11/2024 13:40

Regarding his mother's remarks, he should be standing up for you however I don't think we're getting the full picture here and I doubt he's as great as you think he is.

If you want to get married for legal protection, then take him up on his offer to 'sign the papers'. If you're after a big do in a meringue, I doubt you're going to get it.

He sounds like a selfish tight arse. He can't be bothered celebrating your birthday and is constantly going on about the cost of things.

I'm guessing he's selfish in other ways and is taking you for granted.

We get treated how we allow ourselves to be treated and he's unlikely to change.

YRGAM · 05/11/2024 13:44

Fraaahnces · 05/11/2024 13:40

I think you know what to do… Take the kids back to Scandinavia. They will have a better quality of life there and you will be happier when you live on your own terms. This man has shown you repeatedly how much value he has for you.

This is illegal if it's done without the father's permission btw

OP, he hasn't been very pleasant to you but this might be a wake up call for him - he likely doesn't value gifts himself so may have failed to see why you would value them if he struggles with empathy in general. If he is genuinely remorseful and makes an effort to see things more from your perspective, you may end up in a better place.

Starryxnight · 05/11/2024 13:49

Sounds like he is trying to pleas his mum maybe? Maybe she’s said don’t forget sis birthday why don’t you get a voucher? I’m thinking that as he doesn’t sound like the sort of guy who would think of that himself. Also he sounds influenced by the mum with his outlook on marriage. I think he needs to stand up to defend you as his parent and mother of his child/her grandchildren.
if he is tight on funds spoil his own family not try to impress others outwith his immediate family but there again is he maybe not wanting to appear skint to them.

ATastingMenuButItsAllCrisps · 05/11/2024 13:50

@Fraaahnces it says in the OP they live in her home country.

Decide whether you want to keep this man as a live in boyfriend with zero legal protections and legally single, or dump him and co-parent. He sounds shit.

Azerothi · 05/11/2024 13:52

While she probably shouldn't say it out loud your boyfriend's mum does have a point, he doesn't have any plans to marry you and you're a girlfriend not a wife and in her mind, especially if a bit older, temporary.

You say all those lovely things about your boyfriend and how in love with him you are, does your boyfriend really feel the same about you?

YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 05/11/2024 13:54

I don't think you need to get over it, I think if you want to stay with him he needs to make up for it.

He probably feels insecure in his relationships with his mother and sisters and therefore tries to impress them, but feels safe and secure with you so doesn't bother.

He needs to wake the hell up and both acknowledge his faults and make reparation for his neglect.

YRGAM · 05/11/2024 13:55

ATastingMenuButItsAllCrisps · 05/11/2024 13:50

@Fraaahnces it says in the OP they live in her home country.

Decide whether you want to keep this man as a live in boyfriend with zero legal protections and legally single, or dump him and co-parent. He sounds shit.

I'd argue he's the one without legal protections here - being a single unmarried parent in Scandinavia as a foreigner is not a good position to be in at all. It's actually significantly within his interests to get married as if they do break up he may end up in serious visa pickles in the future

Sparkletastic · 05/11/2024 14:07

Do you work OP? What discussions did you and DP have about marriage when you got together and before deciding to have children?

Beastiesandthebeauty · 05/11/2024 14:16

So he moved country for you and wants yo be married just doesn't want the big wedding ?. I understood you want the beautiful celebrations and to feel it but it sounds like he does love you he just has different expectations?
His family just sound plain nasty and he's probably had enough of them growing up. What kind of relationship do you 2 have other then this ? What does he do that makes you happy if you disregard all his family ?

Beastiesandthebeauty · 05/11/2024 14:20

It sounds to me like you are his safe space among a toxic family, and yes he should have got you birthday gifts / done something romantic but I would imagine if he's not a gift giver he has his mother nagging to do these things. Probably the reason he doesn't want a wedding too they don't sound like great people. Do an elopement before the sister ! 🥰

Onlyonekenobe · 05/11/2024 14:23

So he's not against marrying you, he just doesn't want a wedding (presumably because it would have to be Catholic, you're not Catholic, his family wouldn't approve etc)? In your very vulnerable shoes, I'd get the legal wedding out of the way pronto, if you want to stay with this man.

Whether you want to stay with him is another matter. He seems to make treading water with you, you don't seem especially worthy of celebration by him. I don't know how you've not said anything about how he can make an effort for his siblings but not the mother of his children? This is the epitome of taking someone from granted. He's taking you for granted.

I would (1) figure out if I want to be with this man forever, assuming he does too (2) get legally married. I think it's fair enough to give up on a wedding if you can't agree on the form it should take (after all, you chose to be with a Catholic man who clearly doesn't want a wedding at all). The main thing is that you're legally husband and wife. The rest is just a party basically, seeing as you're not religious.

Ballinaire · 06/11/2024 17:18

Azerothi · 05/11/2024 13:52

While she probably shouldn't say it out loud your boyfriend's mum does have a point, he doesn't have any plans to marry you and you're a girlfriend not a wife and in her mind, especially if a bit older, temporary.

You say all those lovely things about your boyfriend and how in love with him you are, does your boyfriend really feel the same about you?

She shouldn't say it out loud and he should stand up for me. He's just dealt with her behaviour by ignoring it alla his life he says.

He says he does and I belive him, but I just feel he's become very "comfy" and just don't feel the need to make an effort. A real love - killer.

OP posts:
Ballinaire · 06/11/2024 17:22

Beastiesandthebeauty · 05/11/2024 14:20

It sounds to me like you are his safe space among a toxic family, and yes he should have got you birthday gifts / done something romantic but I would imagine if he's not a gift giver he has his mother nagging to do these things. Probably the reason he doesn't want a wedding too they don't sound like great people. Do an elopement before the sister ! 🥰

No he's not a great gift giver maybe but this had nothing to do with his mother. The initiative was all his so it's not like he's not capable of thinking of these things himself. That's what makes me sad

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LittleGreenDragons · 06/11/2024 17:26

To add, my partner often complains about how little money he has,
And yet he can splash out and treat his siblings and presumably his mother but you aren't even worthy of a card?

Ignore his words here OP, what are his actions telling you?

Ballinaire · 06/11/2024 17:28

Onlyonekenobe · 05/11/2024 14:23

So he's not against marrying you, he just doesn't want a wedding (presumably because it would have to be Catholic, you're not Catholic, his family wouldn't approve etc)? In your very vulnerable shoes, I'd get the legal wedding out of the way pronto, if you want to stay with this man.

Whether you want to stay with him is another matter. He seems to make treading water with you, you don't seem especially worthy of celebration by him. I don't know how you've not said anything about how he can make an effort for his siblings but not the mother of his children? This is the epitome of taking someone from granted. He's taking you for granted.

I would (1) figure out if I want to be with this man forever, assuming he does too (2) get legally married. I think it's fair enough to give up on a wedding if you can't agree on the form it should take (after all, you chose to be with a Catholic man who clearly doesn't want a wedding at all). The main thing is that you're legally husband and wife. The rest is just a party basically, seeing as you're not religious.

He's not religious so it doesn't have to do with him personally really. Before whenever we ever spoke about getting married there was nothing that insinuated that he just wanted to do it "on paper", I've spoke many times about wearing a wedding dress, having a nice celebration etc and never has he had anything against it. He loves going to weddings himself and gets excited over other people's weddings so the fact that he doesn't feel any sort of excitement for us just feels crap.

I did say to him about he sibling thing, I was so upset. His explanation was he felt like "he owed them" as they've got him gifts in the past and that he just didn't feel the same way about "owing" me. He said he was really sorry and that he's going to keep this in mind for the future. My problem is though that the damage is done and I'm so hurt by it.

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StormingNorman · 06/11/2024 17:31

Fraaahnces · 05/11/2024 13:40

I think you know what to do… Take the kids back to Scandinavia. They will have a better quality of life there and you will be happier when you live on your own terms. This man has shown you repeatedly how much value he has for you.

Straight to kidnap in the first post 😂

Ballinaire · 06/11/2024 17:32

LittleGreenDragons · 06/11/2024 17:26

To add, my partner often complains about how little money he has,
And yet he can splash out and treat his siblings and presumably his mother but you aren't even worthy of a card?

Ignore his words here OP, what are his actions telling you?

They're telling me that he has gotten too comfy with our relationship. We have kids and a house together and also he's moved abroad with me so it's not an easy situation. I do also love him but I'm stuck in such a bitter space now. If you were in my shoes, would there be anything he could do to redeem himself??

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sunflowersngunpowdr · 06/11/2024 17:33

Fraaahnces · 05/11/2024 13:40

I think you know what to do… Take the kids back to Scandinavia. They will have a better quality of life there and you will be happier when you live on your own terms. This man has shown you repeatedly how much value he has for you.

What kind of effed up over reaction is that? Don't listen to this man person OP.

StormingNorman · 06/11/2024 17:36

OP he is definitely committed to you. Have you asked him why he doesn’t want to celebrate the marriage?

Ballinaire · 06/11/2024 17:41

StormingNorman · 06/11/2024 17:36

OP he is definitely committed to you. Have you asked him why he doesn’t want to celebrate the marriage?

I have and he says it's the stress of a wedding he doesn't want. He's never said this before though and he knows that a big, expensive fancy wedding wouldn't be something I'd want anyway. So I don't think using the "stress excuse" is fair here. He knows that I've wanted to get married on not just paper but to have a day that is ours.

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StormingNorman · 06/11/2024 17:45

Ballinaire · 06/11/2024 17:41

I have and he says it's the stress of a wedding he doesn't want. He's never said this before though and he knows that a big, expensive fancy wedding wouldn't be something I'd want anyway. So I don't think using the "stress excuse" is fair here. He knows that I've wanted to get married on not just paper but to have a day that is ours.

Can you plan the type of day you’d want and show him how it wouldn’t be stressful?

SensibleSigma · 06/11/2024 17:47

It isn’t about the wedding though, is it? It’s about him doing nothing to make you happy.

He’s not organised you a party
He’s said no to a wedding celebration
he doesn’t get you gifts.

You have seen him through health scares, money issues, and have presumably bought him birthday gifts?

SensibleSigma · 06/11/2024 17:48

What’s your working/earning situation? Is money separate apart from a jointly owned house?

How did you come to move back- was he sponsored by an employer?

Cardinalita90 · 06/11/2024 17:58

So you spoke to him about how you feel and he said he'd bear it mind for next time?? Why wait a whole year - he's hurt you and there's nothing to stop him making it up to you ASAP. Shows yet again that he doesn't value you as much as he should.