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The smell..

74 replies

sarah0106 · 27/10/2024 21:40

So I've been with current partner 4 years... he had a terrible upbringing, his mums narcissistic and his dads controlling and very arrogant, there's been abuse in his childhood although he said he can't remember it happening.

Now to the point! He lets off wind and it's rotten now I'm not smelling of roses when I let off but this is like blocked drains, raw sewage smell, I've said to him I think he needs to go to the doctors and see about IBS or IBD but he's not taking me on at all, I say in a jokingly way "aw your rotten somethings crawled up your butt and died" but this is what it is like. I've tried doing the nice approach, I've tried the"your rank rotten" I've got air fresheners everywhere because it's that bad.

There's clearly an issue inside it doesn't matter what he eats, drinks, he can have salads to eat and water to drink and it's still as bad as when he has fizzy juice and a donner kebab.
Help because my nose can't take anymore

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StopTalkingPlease · 28/10/2024 00:25

Gross. How does he manage this at work? Surely he’s not farting at his boss.

MaidOfAle · 28/10/2024 00:53

samarrange · 28/10/2024 00:20

But trauma and (C)PTSD are mental conditions. We know that negative emotional and psychological experiences have negative mental health consequences. (Of course, the brain is part of the body. But that's not what The Body Keeps The Score means.)

There is, however, very little evidence that abuse causes specific physical disorders. It's an important research area, and perhaps more will be discovered. But in the meantime, quacks like Bessel van der Kolk are not helping with their "it sounds like it makes sense, so it must be true" handwaving. Just because childhood abuse is bad doesn't mean that whoever makes the most extreme claims for its effects gets to be declared the winner.

(Source: I have a PhD in health psychology and I read the scientific literature.)

I'm reading When The Body Says No by Gabor Maté and it cites studies, lots of them, and also supports the idea that stress, including that caused by past trauma, can make you sick.

If stress doesn't make people sick, explain stress-induced migraines, stress-induced vomiting, and stress-induced alopecia? Explain vaginismus after rape? Explain why there's a correlation between ACEs and IBS, and IBS patients report pain when people without IBS don't upon having the same small volume of air rectally pumped into their colons?

We are our bodies and something that affects our brains affects our bodies by definition because a) our brains are part of our bodies and b) are connected to the rest of our bodies by our nervous systems.

User100000000000 · 28/10/2024 01:09

@MoneyMill What a load of absolute nonsense 🤣

pokinstew · 28/10/2024 01:12

I saw a tv show once where the said that people with the worst smelling farts actually had the healthiest microbiome. Also smelling farts is now thought to be good for you so get huffing!

https://theweek.com/speedreads/450160/study-smelling-farts-may-good-health

Study: Smelling farts may be good for your health

The latest Speed Read,/speed-reads,,speed-reads, breaking news, comment, reviews and features from the experts at The Week UK

https://theweek.com/speedreads/450160/study-smelling-farts-may-good-health

Marineboy67 · 28/10/2024 01:17

I think he must a secret curry/cider fan! I can clear a supermarket aisle after consuming those two ingredients 🤣

Delphiniumandlupins · 28/10/2024 01:33

Do you think he's reluctant to go to his GP because of the childhood abuse? You're joking may be making him feel worse about himself or it may make him think it's not a serious problem. If you want him to seek medical help you need to speak to him calmly and seriously.

TheStarsLookVeryDifferentToday · 28/10/2024 01:50

@samarrange
I started reading that book this weekend as it's been recommended a few times in various Mumsnet threads. Sadly your link didn't work just now but thanks for the heads up. I'm a quarter way through the book and really would prefer more facts and less waffle.

lostoldname · 28/10/2024 05:57

try a pro biotic. Yukkalt or supermarket own brand

icelolly12 · 28/10/2024 07:33

MaidOfAle · 28/10/2024 00:53

I'm reading When The Body Says No by Gabor Maté and it cites studies, lots of them, and also supports the idea that stress, including that caused by past trauma, can make you sick.

If stress doesn't make people sick, explain stress-induced migraines, stress-induced vomiting, and stress-induced alopecia? Explain vaginismus after rape? Explain why there's a correlation between ACEs and IBS, and IBS patients report pain when people without IBS don't upon having the same small volume of air rectally pumped into their colons?

We are our bodies and something that affects our brains affects our bodies by definition because a) our brains are part of our bodies and b) are connected to the rest of our bodies by our nervous systems.

Edited

Yeah vaginismus makes sense, also a lowered immune system. Stinky farts however... more likely he's been eating foods that aren't compatible with his digestion. Also if he's eating loads of protein and broccoli like a lot of gym goers his farts will likely reek.

MoneyMill · 28/10/2024 09:10

MaidOfAle · 28/10/2024 00:53

I'm reading When The Body Says No by Gabor Maté and it cites studies, lots of them, and also supports the idea that stress, including that caused by past trauma, can make you sick.

If stress doesn't make people sick, explain stress-induced migraines, stress-induced vomiting, and stress-induced alopecia? Explain vaginismus after rape? Explain why there's a correlation between ACEs and IBS, and IBS patients report pain when people without IBS don't upon having the same small volume of air rectally pumped into their colons?

We are our bodies and something that affects our brains affects our bodies by definition because a) our brains are part of our bodies and b) are connected to the rest of our bodies by our nervous systems.

Edited

“There's none so blind as they that won't see.”

StopTalkingPlease · 28/10/2024 11:21

Mans smelly farts caused by trauma. I’ve heard it all now.

Tell him to go to the bathroom. Like he does at work or like when he’s with his friends. It’s gross and disrespectful.

Auvergne63 · 28/10/2024 11:27

Lactose intolerance?

puddingpour · 28/10/2024 11:32

Lactose intolerance. Would he try a dairy free diet?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 28/10/2024 15:31

The body says no is an interesting book

samarrange · 28/10/2024 15:43

TheStarsLookVeryDifferentToday · 28/10/2024 01:50

@samarrange
I started reading that book this weekend as it's been recommended a few times in various Mumsnet threads. Sadly your link didn't work just now but thanks for the heads up. I'm a quarter way through the book and really would prefer more facts and less waffle.

Does this link work? https://medium.com/@tarasierralee_57910/the-cult-of-bessel-van-der-kolk-author-of-the-body-keeps-the-score-e4aabf785da4

The Cult of Bessel Van der Kolk, author of The Body Keeps the Score

I thought it was just me, but I was relieved to find out that it’s not. We all need validation when we have been traumatized by someone who claimed to be helping us. “Take the best and leave the…

https://medium.com/@tarasierralee_57910/the-cult-of-bessel-van-der-kolk-author-of-the-body-keeps-the-score-e4aabf785da4

TheStarsLookVeryDifferentToday · 28/10/2024 16:14

It does, thank you!

Calliopespa · 29/10/2024 20:35

MoneyMill · 28/10/2024 09:10

“There's none so blind as they that won't see.”

I think smell might be the relevant sense for this thread!

savethatkitty · 29/10/2024 20:56

I'm just here because anything fart related cracks me up.

In all seriousness though, now, my brother has always had rank, utterly disgusting, something has died, lingering farts. He's nearly 50 & in reasonable health, no-one ever thought to wonder if he had a medical concern. We all just avoided being in a closed room or vehicle with him

Calliopespa · 29/10/2024 21:03

savethatkitty · 29/10/2024 20:56

I'm just here because anything fart related cracks me up.

In all seriousness though, now, my brother has always had rank, utterly disgusting, something has died, lingering farts. He's nearly 50 & in reasonable health, no-one ever thought to wonder if he had a medical concern. We all just avoided being in a closed room or vehicle with him

Yet now you realise they were pleas for help all along …

ProvincialLady24 · 29/10/2024 21:09

I'm not sure that you needed to disclose his backstory. Doesn't seem relevant to me.

I could never be intimate with a man who wilfully farted in front of me. It's the death of sex.

I'd tell him to put a cork in it or to use the loo. Explain that it's revolting and also repellent.

Bignanna · 29/10/2024 21:11

TheSilkWorm · 27/10/2024 21:46

He Could go to the bathroom to fart if he cared about the impact on you. Clearly he doesn't.

No one plans farts, they just happen, often without warning

Jaehee · 29/10/2024 21:31

Why are people making disgusting jokes about child sexual abuse? What the actual fuck is wrong with you @Bumcake @oakleaffy?

And I agree with @samarrange , Bessel van der Kolk is a quack and nobody I know in the scientific field takes him seriously. His book has trivialised the word trauma and his oversimplification of complex science has in turn inspired a generation of armchair experts to dole out their unsolicited opinions and advice on people’s (usually women’s) ailments and medical conditions. He has also been accused of bullying and harassment https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2018/03/07/allegations-of-employee-mistreatment-roil-renowned-brookline-trauma-center/?amp=1

Interesting discussion about it here https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/bessel-van-der-kolk-and-joseph-spinazzola-both-fired-from-their-trauma-research-institute.1301152/

Calliopespa · 29/10/2024 21:33

Bignanna · 29/10/2024 21:11

No one plans farts, they just happen, often without warning

Im starting to wonder if maybe some people do🤷🏻‍♀️?

“ yeees, when I get home tonight …”

“ I’ll save this for when I’m next at Margery’s.”

In fairness, even the very sudden type can normally be quelled unless you are actually in the process of doing squats or similar - although there was a thread in here where people admitted that skill wanes with advancing years.

Ollybob · 29/10/2024 21:41

Probiotics and or yogurt for the good bacteria and also reduced/cut out dairy for a short while in case that's the problem, humans become less tolerant of lactose as we age. (Can get lactose free yogurts)
If it's a recent thing it's certainty worth a GP visit to rule out any issues.

Screamingabdabz · 29/10/2024 21:50

Try him on a vegetarian diet. Might increase the flatulence a little, but nowhere near as smelly.