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Husbands behaviour

31 replies

ThatCheeryPinkBear · 27/10/2024 10:46

Hi there I’m looking for some advice please.
I've got some concerns over my husband’s behaviour and just wanted to see what others thought and maybe what I should do.
we have been together for 5 years and in all that time he never talks about his family and very rarely spends time with any friends.
He never talks about nice memories or experiences etc and it seems odd to me, because when asked he tells me he had a great upbringing and his sisters are close to his parents and they do seem really lovely and sweet.
I had a difficult childhood but still have some good memories and occasionally will remember stuff and talk about it fondly as do many of my own friends and family.
its like he has no emotional connection to anyone or anything. Other than me.
he also has no passion or drive for anything, he likes to watch football but that’s literally it. He has no hobbies or interests or even topics that excite him or give him pleasure. Even when he does watch the football he doesn’t talk about it or seem too passionate and only watches it on the TV by himself or in the pub with me. He will do things that I have planned and he seems to enjoy them sometimes but other times he will act cold and aloof especially if we are with other people. I get the sense he is purposely doing this and when challenged he becomes angry and defensive. He cannot take criticism at all and can be verbally aggressive but never physically.
he is impossible to talk to and will deflect everything I say.
An example of this playing out is:
we went out with one of his friends and his wife to watch a gig. My husband was charm personified all night because it was important to him I made and effort to bond with his friend and the wife even though the music was crap I still danced and smiled and had a good time.
because- I wanted to support him and make a good impression on his friends.

but, when I was invited to a gig with some family members of mine, he sulked and spent the whole concert stood to the side hardly talking, unsmiling and purposely keeping a distance from everyone.
i had my family asking ‘what is wrong with him’ there was nothing wrong as such and I got the impression he was purposely trying to sabotage the day and make it as unpleasant as possible but I cannot fathom why?
for context at home he is usually pleasant enough and can be loving and affectionate towards me. But it feels like he is only happy and nice on his terms.
when I challenged him on this he either denies his behaviour is problematic or says he doesn’t like my family (because I had a tough childhood) I don’t buy this excuse and feel he is using my own trauma to manipulate me and he also doesn’t seem to like his own family or anyone else much for that matter.
what on earth?! Also he would not do therapy or counselling I suspect he would be silent and sulking the whole time even if I did get him to go.
sorry for the long message and thank you.

OP posts:
HalloweenHaribo · 27/10/2024 10:49

You just sound like two very different personalities to be honest.

Were you ever compatible?

What about before you married?

ThatCheeryPinkBear · 27/10/2024 11:10

HalloweenHaribo · 27/10/2024 10:49

You just sound like two very different personalities to be honest.

Were you ever compatible?

What about before you married?

Thanks for your reply, yes we do have different personalities but in the beginning he was always charming and nice, I did see the odd flash of dismissive and aloof behaviours but he was able to explain this. Now he seems to only behave in a socially ‘normal’ way if he wants to do the thing, it’s around people he wants to make a good impression on or when we are alone. I should also add he can have times where he will be charming to strangers and sometimes belittles me and makes ‘jokes’ about me. If I challenge any of this he hits the roof and says I’m sensitive and he is just joking.
as mentioned other times he will just make himself as anti social as he possibly can and I feel he’s does this on purpose.
when alone in the house we do have a laugh together and he will tell me he loves me and never really mistreats me at home. It’s so confusing.

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Seaoftroubles · 27/10/2024 11:17

He sounds hard work OP, everything on his terms and a tendancy to sabotage anything involving your friends or family. Also he's verbally aggressive if challenged.
You say he isn't open to counselling and even if you got him to go would sabotage that too. l get the feeling that you walk on egg shells round him so as to keep the peace which is not healthy.
How was he in the early days of your relationship? Surely not as you describe here or you wouldn't have married him!

jannier · 27/10/2024 11:22

Does he make you happy? Is he worth it? A relationship is supposed to be two ways this sounds like he's manipulative and controlling

VestPantsandSocks · 27/10/2024 11:28

Relationships shouldn't be such hard work especially in the early years and before you have children.

You should have common interests and mutual respect and understanding which unfortunately your husband is not displaying.

Honestly, don't waste any more of your life trying to fit in with this man. Go and find someone who really loves you.

ThatCheeryPinkBear · 27/10/2024 11:31

Seaoftroubles · 27/10/2024 11:17

He sounds hard work OP, everything on his terms and a tendancy to sabotage anything involving your friends or family. Also he's verbally aggressive if challenged.
You say he isn't open to counselling and even if you got him to go would sabotage that too. l get the feeling that you walk on egg shells round him so as to keep the peace which is not healthy.
How was he in the early days of your relationship? Surely not as you describe here or you wouldn't have married him!

Thank you and no he was charming and kind in the beginning. Looking back there were glimmers of aloofness and dismissiveness but it was subtle and explained away. This behaviour has increased over time. It feels cruel but he laughs if I suggest that and says I’m being ridiculous :(

OP posts:
ThatCheeryPinkBear · 27/10/2024 11:34

jannier · 27/10/2024 11:22

Does he make you happy? Is he worth it? A relationship is supposed to be two ways this sounds like he's manipulative and controlling

Most of the time at home we get on great but I do feel hesitant and concerned if we have to go out and worry how he will be. It is manipulative I agree but if I challenge him he will deny and also say that I shouldn’t even go out with him then, which isn’t really a solution when your married :(

OP posts:
MillyMichaelson · 27/10/2024 11:35

He is 'usually pleasant enough' when you're at home together?

Is that really the dream you had of what marriage would be like? I would imagine it's not.

ThatCheeryPinkBear · 27/10/2024 11:36

VestPantsandSocks · 27/10/2024 11:28

Relationships shouldn't be such hard work especially in the early years and before you have children.

You should have common interests and mutual respect and understanding which unfortunately your husband is not displaying.

Honestly, don't waste any more of your life trying to fit in with this man. Go and find someone who really loves you.

I’m 41 and he is 46. My daughter lives with her boyfriend now she’s grown up :)

OP posts:
ThatCheeryPinkBear · 27/10/2024 11:37

That’s a good point. It’s a pretty low bar that isn’t it.

OP posts:
pinkyredrose · 27/10/2024 11:38

Life's too short to spend it with a miserable man.

Seaoftroubles · 27/10/2024 12:02

OP, it's pretty obvious he doesn't respect you. So he was charming and kind in the beginning whilst he reeled you in!
Now he treats you with contempt, belittles you and makes fun of you in front of strangers but is superficially charming to them.You are right this is cruel and you are not being over sensitive.
Honestly OP he is showing you who he is and is manipulating you to accept his poor behaviour. Please leave him, this won't get any better.

Cuppasy · 27/10/2024 12:11

He sounds awful.
Thznk god no children.
He certainly doesn't respect you.
He deliberately tries to isolate you by bein unpleasant to those you care about.
He sounds narcissistic the way he turns on charm when it suits him.
I get a sense that he is abusive and very controlling, using anger to shut you down.

You are wasting your life with him, particularly as you will not be having children.
Get counselling to figure out why you are still with him.

Then divorce him.

Quitelikeit · 27/10/2024 12:19

hang on - some people are social butterflies and some are not!

my oh socialises without me all the time - because I simply don’t want to go as much

I have my social preferences and we do them occasionally

id never go out though and act rude

to reframe your situation could you accept going out without him more often? If not then maybe you should run now instead of wasting your time

ATastingMenuButItsAllCrisps · 27/10/2024 12:26

A sulking, verbally abusive man is not marriage material.
Tell him you're not attracted to boring, aggressive, sulking men and enjoy life free of him.

PussInBin20 · 27/10/2024 12:28

He’s just selfish - makes an effort when it benefits himself but doesn’t for you. And then dismisses it as you’re the problem not him.

RandomMess · 27/10/2024 12:29

He doesn't want you spending time with your friends or family with or without him. His behaviour it's making it "too much effort" for you to bother.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 27/10/2024 12:31

It's control. If he's unpleasant when you go to places YOU want to go, or meet up with people and do things that YOU want to do, but he's fine when it's something HE wants to do - he's controlling you. Eventually you stop doing what you want and only do what he wants, because it makes life nicer.

He may be doing it unconsciously, of course. But this is what it is.

EveSix · 27/10/2024 12:39

Everything you observe is accurate and you have the measure of him. Don't waste time trying to reason it out, either with him or in your own mind. He is working within entirely different perimeters to you.
Please consider if this is what you really want to be pondering for the rest of your life. I honestly think walking away is always the right decision ‐we may hesitate because it feels daunting or poses logistical problems in the short term, but that doesn't mean it isn't the sensible thing to do. Give yourself the gift of peace of mind and let this person go. Naturally sociable, responsive, easy-going people often feel unfulfilled and unmet in pairings with more introverted, self-contained partners. Throw sulking and deliberate sabotage into the mix, and you're no longer trying to reconcile social differences but dodge the toxic tendencies of a potential abuser. Let go and be free, OP.

AlertCat · 27/10/2024 13:02

He’s emotionally abusing you and it won’t stop or improve, it’ll only get worse. Please consider leaving him. He will reduce you to a shell of your former self and you won’t know a moment’s peace of mind, you’ll be constantly second-guessing what you’ve done wrong this time.

pikkumyy77 · 27/10/2024 13:07

Forget thinking about who he was when you were dating him. Just consider him to have baited and switched on you. Read the thread here on nice things husbands do and realize you can and should expect loving treatment all the time.

RealHiker · 27/10/2024 13:13

Sounds like he is not emotionally invested in this relationship at all. It works both ways!

jannier · 27/10/2024 13:29

ThatCheeryPinkBear · 27/10/2024 11:34

Most of the time at home we get on great but I do feel hesitant and concerned if we have to go out and worry how he will be. It is manipulative I agree but if I challenge him he will deny and also say that I shouldn’t even go out with him then, which isn’t really a solution when your married :(

So he wants to keep you in away from your friends by making you uncomfortable what is that telling you? What would your advice be to a friend if this was her?

EveSix · 27/10/2024 13:47

pikkumyy77 · 27/10/2024 13:07

Forget thinking about who he was when you were dating him. Just consider him to have baited and switched on you. Read the thread here on nice things husbands do and realize you can and should expect loving treatment all the time.

I was thinking about that thread and decided to search for it but am drawing a blank. Have you got a link, please?

Fishergirl · 27/10/2024 14:32

He sounds very similar to my stbexh! Deflects everything when I challenge him or call him out on his behaviour. Everything is my fault. Stroppy/distant around my family. Verbally abusive. I could list loads more. I've decided I can't do it anymore and I don't particularly like him now, let alone love him!!

I'm having counselling at the moment and it's really helping me get some clarity. I think when you're living the relationship day to day, sometimes it's difficult to see the wood for the trees. Maybe counselling would help you? If he doesn't want to do couples counselling then I'd recommend it for just you.

Ultimately it doesn't sound like a healthy relationship nor a happy one.