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DH being selfish

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SillyBear1 · 19/10/2024 17:44

How do you speak to a DH that is being, IMO, very selfish and when you try and communicate how it makes you feel/that it’s not ideal, just shuts you down. Also will happily have a big strop in front of the children but if I try and say one comment which is in no way negative or not for them to hear, just talks over me not to speak in front of the children?

DH makes no effort in the house - I take on the mental and physical load of everything and he just seemingly walks around with blinkers on ignoring everything that needs doing and making mess. He does cook sometimes but when I’ve already made the weekly meal plan and ensured we had ingredients.

We don’t have a lot of disposable income at the minute (childcare) and are currently going through a remortgage. In recent months into past few weeks he’s had an abroad stag, a night away with friends staying over in a hotel and is wanting to go to another night out next week (will include train travel) plus the ‘home’ version of this stag do (again will need train or bus travel to get to) a couple of weeks later. He’s also booked and already paid for another stag in a few months time, yet he’s refusing to discuss it as he just keeps joking, he’ll discuss it after Christmas so it doesn’t ruin Christmas?

I’m not someone who thinks you give up everything when you have a family and can’t go out but, I do think they should come first and if you don’t have the money/aren’t helping at home, you can’t just please yourself.

My other annoyance is that he makes no effort to do anything with me. He doesn’t compliment me or offer much affection (complete opposite from how he was when we first got together) and I’ve said so many times, I wish he’d just put as much effort into doing something with me - going out for a meal/a ‘date’ night/us going to stay out for a night with what little money we have. Obviously I could plan things but that’s not my point and if I did that, it’d just become something else I don’t have the mental space for and something else done for him he can just plod along with rather than him doing it because he ‘wants’ to - if that makes sense!
He thinks it’s okay as he’s spending money left over in his ‘own’ bank account after our money has gone into the joint for bills etc (but we often need this topping up).

He is also completely obsessed with football. If there’s a match on, he’ll drop it on me on the day, demand we cut any family outing short to be home, takes over the living room TV (the main place the children play which makes them cross as they don’t want to see it), physically cannot move or help with anything else whilst it’s on and has teenager strops if he can’t watch it.

Today was one of those days as we’ve had a few TV provider issues this week and he couldn’t get it on. We’d been out to get some pumpkins and he decided he wanted to carve them today. It wasn’t done by the time of the match, so in his fume that it wasn’t working, turned on us and started shouting and speaking rudely to DS and I about how I’d just left all the stuff all over (I was having a 2 minute sit down as I haven’t been well this week either and was feeling dizzy).

He then started saying it was me who’d wanted to do the carving and stormed off upstairs as DS started pressing buttons on the remote to turn it off, not before revving the drill he’d got out as a pumpkin carving ‘hack’ in a way which made DS ask him to stop scaring him.
I had asked him calmly a good few times to stop being so over the top about football and to stop speaking to us like that.

DS then shouted him from the hallway wondering where he’d gone and he had a go at me for ‘allowing’ him to do this when he needed his time to calm down, likening it to my neurodiversity where I occasionally need a couple of minutes to regulate after overstimulation.

After a bit, he came back downstairs, all sweetness and light again as he had reset the TV box - no apology. I pointed out it might be worth it, even just to DS but he refused as if he had no reason to and blamed us for not understanding why he ‘needs’ to watch it and purposely antagonising him (DS with the remote/me ‘allowing’ him to shout up to DH etc).

He’s promised them he will take them to FIL’s today so they started playing up a little, wondering when they would be going. It’s seemingly expected I have to keep them quiet and out of his way so he can watch undisturbed. He then started having a go at me about how they weren’t ready to go (despite him being the ones taking them yet wanting to be glued to the TV) and got angry that I (again I point out, have been unwell for days) hadn’t got them ready with shoes on etc, for him to just take once the match was finished.

Towards the end (I’m talking ET), DS picked up the remote and he immediately started flapping and panicking, begging him not to take the remote. DD was stood in front of him with her arms up asking him to carry her about 5 times, whilst he just ignored her, engrossed in the TV so I had to point out to him she was talking to him.

I feel like a glorified parent of 3. I often wonder if this is what marriages get like over time and I’m unrealistic in expecting to have someone who compliments me, might come home with a bunch of flowers or chocolate once in a blue moon or out of nowhere says, right, on X day, we’re doing X. He always makes me feel like a burden and an old nag who stands in the way of him doing what he wants to do and that’s his stand point.
I’m only early 30’s so it makes me feel a bit rubbish that feeling unloved is what my life is!

OP posts:
SillyBear1 · 19/10/2024 17:46

The stag in a few months is also abroad*

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Wherehasallthetimegone · 19/10/2024 17:53

Another man who behaves as though he is single: spending family money to go off drinking and getting up to goodness knows what on "stag dos " while you do the parenting and keeping the family together. He is not behaving like a responsible man in a partnership.He doesn't seem interested in you or his own children.
You really would be better off without him OP.

Hatty65 · 19/10/2024 17:54

Honestly, you are either a saint or daft to put up with this prick.

I can't see how he'll get better. I would be seeing a solicitor about what I was likely to get in a divorce. He's a shit father and husband.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 19/10/2024 17:57

What is the point of you and he being together at all?. This man is a selfish fun sponge who is also quick to blame and otherwise mouth off at you all for what are his inadequacies.

What do you want to teach your children about relationships and what are they learning here from you two?.

Is this really the role model of a relationship you want to be showing your children?. Currently you're showing them this ill treatment of you is acceptable to you.

You feel like a parent of three because you are a parent to three; one of whom is a manchild. He is not going to change and this is who he really is. You have a choice re him; your children do not. I would seek legal advice on the quiet and from that move onto divorce him.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 19/10/2024 17:58

I would also think you would never hear the end of it from him if you wanted a night out either with your friends, let alone going with your female friends on some hen do abroad.

buttonsB4 · 19/10/2024 18:00

You are a single parent who happens to be married to a man who makes her life harder.

Seriously, life would be better if you got rid of him and just had yourself and the kids to look after (and EOW to yourself).

BibbityBobbityToo · 19/10/2024 18:00

You'll have an easier life as a single parent of 2.......

arethereanyleftatall · 19/10/2024 18:03

What value is this man bringing to your life op?

Because it sounds like less than none - just negativity.

What would your life look like without him in it?

You ask if 'it's normal for men'. What difference does that make? So if every man on earth was as big an arsehole as your husband - you should stay with them then? Why?

OttersAreMySpiritAnimal · 19/10/2024 18:09

Invent a hen do you've been invited to the requires him to look after the kids for the weekend. See what the reaction is. That'll be telling.
I'd be having a big chat to talk about equal loads. He wants to watch footy, you take the kids out. Then you get equal alone time to do something for you and he looks after the kids.

StormingNorman · 19/10/2024 18:12

He’s no fun OP and he sounds like hard work. Does he add anything to your life anymore?

Quitelikeit · 19/10/2024 18:16

This is not normal

He is a husband and father yet does nothing to fulfil these roles

He is lazy, selfish and thinks about himself only

Insist on equal leisure time - go out yourself and leave him to deal with the kids

or tell him he has a chance to man up otherwise you’ll claim UC and maintenance and throw him out and he can have his kids every weekend

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 19/10/2024 18:56

OP I read this as someone old enough to be your mum. If I were it would break my heart.
You are so, so young to be living with someone who has you trapped like this. Can you imagine another 20, 30 or 40 years?
He has chosen to get married and be a dad. It didn’t mean he has to give up hobbies and interests but right now he’s behaving appallingly.
He shows you no consideration, and as for all of these trips and stag parties when you are strapped for cash is unfair. The way he speaks to you and your DC is despicable.
And he’s doing it simply because he can. He contributed very little to family life and treats you like a skivvy.
It is not going to improve. He has no reason to change while he is ruling the roost and he doesn’t even allow you to speak.
He doesn’t see you as a woman in her own right, someone who is deserving of respect and admiration.
I have read post on here ladies in their 60’s and 70’s who have endured this for decades. 40 years ago things were different, even though not all marriages were. But in 2024 it’s just not acceptable.
You have been poorly this week and deserved some TLC.
As for the football, I have every sympathy as I am sure a lot of MNers will, as I used to spend hours of a weekend as a football widow. But it’s no excuse for behaving like a brat.
You deserve a partner who works with you, OP.
You really do not have to live like this you would be better off with just you and your DC. You would have some peace.

ShouldIEvenBother · 19/10/2024 19:08

Gosh OP, this man is the stuff of nightmares.

I tend to think when men behave so blatantly poorly (there's no room for any ambiguity here), the selfishness is so entrenched that there's only one thing for it: you simply must relieve yourself of this extra 'child'. Quite frankly, the way he treats you is utterly revolting.

I couldn't actually read the whole of your opening post - I'm sure the 2nd half is no better than the first half I read...

When you have finally had enough and want a divorce, please crack on in the knowledge it's absolutely the best thing for you and your children.

Crikeyalmighty · 19/10/2024 19:11

I'm afraid it's almost exactly word for word why my 1st marriage ended when I was 29

SillyBear1 · 19/10/2024 19:14

Honestly I think the only thing I get from it is exhaustion! I have to be the brains of everything - he’ll claim ownership over a task but then it will be weeks/months of that and other tasks he says he’ll do, but never does or ‘forgets’.
He sent DD to nursery without a coat recently because I had got sidetracked putting out her bag/coat the night before so missed the coat. Instead of thinking/checking himself, he just took her, assuming I would have sorted it all.

Today I was told I get to do everything for me (not sure what that classes as as I spend every weekend with the children and planning outings for us as a family) so he should be allowed to watch the football. He also brought up that he’d drove me to an experience day one day last week as an example of how awful I was being. This was a one off, something booked from my birthday nearly a year ago as a present, he was also participating and he chose to drive FIL’s car to save the miles on his, which I’m not insured on.

Being a bit vulnerable, I had a rubbish childhood emotionally so I do probably have attachment problems where I stay because in my warped sense, it’s better than being alone but it’s also leaving me really unhappy as I’m not getting anything to do with a marriage/relationship from him.

I’ve had a few vulnerable conversations recently where I’ve communicated how it makes me feel that he jumps whenever it’s anything to do with his friends, but can’t put the same effort into us doing something or giving me some affection. How it makes me a bit insular and wary of approaching him for fear of rejection or putting myself onto someone who doesn’t appear to want that. I have told him that I honestly feel that if someone were to ask me if he loved me, I wouldn’t know what to say because I don’t feel it.

He is just dismissive of this, saying he doesn’t have to plan it with them, someone’s already done it and how he might have tried once to give me some affection and because I didn’t immediately reciprocate by giving him lots over the next few days, he gives up. Funnily enough he will say we don’t have money to do anything but the money for his social life comes out of his own bank account. We have a joint account that our wages standing order an amount into. It took ages to get this in place as he was resistant to it. Other things like our phones/fuel etc come out of our own accounts with what’s left and anything else is disposable for our ‘own’ things is how he wanted it set up.

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arethereanyleftatall · 19/10/2024 19:17

Then get some counselling or talk to your friends to get you to a place whereby you realise that being single would be a million times better than this. Which it would be.

SillyBear1 · 19/10/2024 19:19

arethereanyleftatall · 19/10/2024 19:17

Then get some counselling or talk to your friends to get you to a place whereby you realise that being single would be a million times better than this. Which it would be.

This has definitely been on my mind lately as something I need to do

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Boobygravy · 19/10/2024 19:53

How old are your dc?
I think I’d start squirrelling any money you can away and make a plan.
As for the dc and his input you need to get up early one Saturday and leave the house and don’t come back until Monday night.
Leave him a note and tell him in the note he needs to learn how to be a parent.
In fact I’d do it on the morning he’s due to go on the stag.
He’s a lazy, selfish waste.

itsoktonotbeokitstrue · 19/10/2024 20:01

Doesn't sound like a very fun life for you and the kids. I feel like you accommodate all his wants and needs.
Where is your time off, where are your hobbies?
I'd be miserable it this situation and it's not normal.
Normal is pulling all the income together for a family holiday. Taking it in turns so you get to do things you both want to do.
If he doesn't listen to you I can't see things changing really.
If you split at least you would have 2 not 3 children to look after - less work for you!
You should consider leaving your worth more. Take care .

Nothatgingerpirate · 19/10/2024 20:04

Wherehasallthetimegone · 19/10/2024 17:53

Another man who behaves as though he is single: spending family money to go off drinking and getting up to goodness knows what on "stag dos " while you do the parenting and keeping the family together. He is not behaving like a responsible man in a partnership.He doesn't seem interested in you or his own children.
You really would be better off without him OP.

This.
Another football twat.
🤢😡

Stormyweatheroutthere · 19/10/2024 20:13

Speak to the mortgage adviser about selling up not remortgaging

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SillyBear1 · 19/10/2024 21:16

DC are 4 and 1. I’d despair of leaving them with him as he always wants the easiest options.

I don’t really have any time off or chance to do my hobby as it’s so expensive right now. I’ve just fell into a hole of just ‘existing’ it feels. Rushing about after the children and making sure they have everything, tidying / mental load of the house. Planning outings with the DC as he will say he can’t think of anything.
It’s soul destroying technically being ‘with’ someone but you don’t get any of the benefits of that.

OP posts:
Tiswa · 19/10/2024 21:24

SillyBear1 · 19/10/2024 21:16

DC are 4 and 1. I’d despair of leaving them with him as he always wants the easiest options.

I don’t really have any time off or chance to do my hobby as it’s so expensive right now. I’ve just fell into a hole of just ‘existing’ it feels. Rushing about after the children and making sure they have everything, tidying / mental load of the house. Planning outings with the DC as he will say he can’t think of anything.
It’s soul destroying technically being ‘with’ someone but you don’t get any of the benefits of that.

Yet he is spending money on the stag dos so why is there no money for you

SillyBear1 · 19/10/2024 21:32

He says it’s because that’s ‘his’ money coming out of what’s left in his bank account after he’s put money in the joint for his bits of the bills.

Any discussions are always shot down along the path of, he’s allowed to go out with his friends and I can’t stop him (insinuations of control etc are made if I have an opinion).
I’ve attempted to explain that by all means, go and enjoy a social life if you’re giving your marriage/home the same effort but you can’t expect that if you’re not. He just doesn’t get it.

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arethereanyleftatall · 19/10/2024 21:45

Then go out and do what you want to do one day before he does, and if he says anything, tell him to stop being controlling.

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