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DH being selfish

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SillyBear1 · 19/10/2024 17:44

How do you speak to a DH that is being, IMO, very selfish and when you try and communicate how it makes you feel/that it’s not ideal, just shuts you down. Also will happily have a big strop in front of the children but if I try and say one comment which is in no way negative or not for them to hear, just talks over me not to speak in front of the children?

DH makes no effort in the house - I take on the mental and physical load of everything and he just seemingly walks around with blinkers on ignoring everything that needs doing and making mess. He does cook sometimes but when I’ve already made the weekly meal plan and ensured we had ingredients.

We don’t have a lot of disposable income at the minute (childcare) and are currently going through a remortgage. In recent months into past few weeks he’s had an abroad stag, a night away with friends staying over in a hotel and is wanting to go to another night out next week (will include train travel) plus the ‘home’ version of this stag do (again will need train or bus travel to get to) a couple of weeks later. He’s also booked and already paid for another stag in a few months time, yet he’s refusing to discuss it as he just keeps joking, he’ll discuss it after Christmas so it doesn’t ruin Christmas?

I’m not someone who thinks you give up everything when you have a family and can’t go out but, I do think they should come first and if you don’t have the money/aren’t helping at home, you can’t just please yourself.

My other annoyance is that he makes no effort to do anything with me. He doesn’t compliment me or offer much affection (complete opposite from how he was when we first got together) and I’ve said so many times, I wish he’d just put as much effort into doing something with me - going out for a meal/a ‘date’ night/us going to stay out for a night with what little money we have. Obviously I could plan things but that’s not my point and if I did that, it’d just become something else I don’t have the mental space for and something else done for him he can just plod along with rather than him doing it because he ‘wants’ to - if that makes sense!
He thinks it’s okay as he’s spending money left over in his ‘own’ bank account after our money has gone into the joint for bills etc (but we often need this topping up).

He is also completely obsessed with football. If there’s a match on, he’ll drop it on me on the day, demand we cut any family outing short to be home, takes over the living room TV (the main place the children play which makes them cross as they don’t want to see it), physically cannot move or help with anything else whilst it’s on and has teenager strops if he can’t watch it.

Today was one of those days as we’ve had a few TV provider issues this week and he couldn’t get it on. We’d been out to get some pumpkins and he decided he wanted to carve them today. It wasn’t done by the time of the match, so in his fume that it wasn’t working, turned on us and started shouting and speaking rudely to DS and I about how I’d just left all the stuff all over (I was having a 2 minute sit down as I haven’t been well this week either and was feeling dizzy).

He then started saying it was me who’d wanted to do the carving and stormed off upstairs as DS started pressing buttons on the remote to turn it off, not before revving the drill he’d got out as a pumpkin carving ‘hack’ in a way which made DS ask him to stop scaring him.
I had asked him calmly a good few times to stop being so over the top about football and to stop speaking to us like that.

DS then shouted him from the hallway wondering where he’d gone and he had a go at me for ‘allowing’ him to do this when he needed his time to calm down, likening it to my neurodiversity where I occasionally need a couple of minutes to regulate after overstimulation.

After a bit, he came back downstairs, all sweetness and light again as he had reset the TV box - no apology. I pointed out it might be worth it, even just to DS but he refused as if he had no reason to and blamed us for not understanding why he ‘needs’ to watch it and purposely antagonising him (DS with the remote/me ‘allowing’ him to shout up to DH etc).

He’s promised them he will take them to FIL’s today so they started playing up a little, wondering when they would be going. It’s seemingly expected I have to keep them quiet and out of his way so he can watch undisturbed. He then started having a go at me about how they weren’t ready to go (despite him being the ones taking them yet wanting to be glued to the TV) and got angry that I (again I point out, have been unwell for days) hadn’t got them ready with shoes on etc, for him to just take once the match was finished.

Towards the end (I’m talking ET), DS picked up the remote and he immediately started flapping and panicking, begging him not to take the remote. DD was stood in front of him with her arms up asking him to carry her about 5 times, whilst he just ignored her, engrossed in the TV so I had to point out to him she was talking to him.

I feel like a glorified parent of 3. I often wonder if this is what marriages get like over time and I’m unrealistic in expecting to have someone who compliments me, might come home with a bunch of flowers or chocolate once in a blue moon or out of nowhere says, right, on X day, we’re doing X. He always makes me feel like a burden and an old nag who stands in the way of him doing what he wants to do and that’s his stand point.
I’m only early 30’s so it makes me feel a bit rubbish that feeling unloved is what my life is!

OP posts:
SillyBear1 · 19/10/2024 23:16

It’s silly that as a mum, I would feel really guilty about that, as much as I’d be tempted!
The DC are obsessed with me and only want me to do things for them which makes it all the more difficult and a want to just have time to enjoy with someone.

I’ve tried to discuss this evening with him, but it’s getting thrown back at me as per. Comments include - I get my nails done once a month which is fine (it costs me £21 and is pretty much my only thing for me) but why should it not be fine for him to go off and do all these things and me not being happy about him doing so or trying to restrict him, isn’t going to help him want to put the effort into any plans with me?!
Last time I checked, an hour - hour and a half nail appointment once a month at £21 isn’t the same as what a day/night out costs, never mind a hotel stay/stag do abroad.

OP posts:
LittleGreenDragons · 19/10/2024 23:25

You are not happy.
He won't change.
The relationship will enter the bitter, angry, resentful and contemptuous phase fairly soon.
You are acting as a single parent already.

Why stay?

SillyBear1 · 19/10/2024 23:29

You raise very valid points LittleGreenDragons.
It feels like it’s driving me a bit crazy at times - wondering why I’m not enough, why he can’t be bothered to put in any effort etc etc. Then I have some very brief moments of clarity where I think that I shouldn’t have to feel this way.

I am starting to feel very resentful that this is my life.

OP posts:
LittleGreenDragons · 19/10/2024 23:50

he can’t be bothered to put in any effort etc etc
Honestly? Because that would require him to put others first and you already know he's too lazy and selfish to do that.

wondering why I’m not enough,
Don't go down that path towards insanity. You cannot complete with him for his attention as he will always win. He is living in his own little world and anything that doesn't make his world better then he is not interested. He gives you just enough to stay which means his world is cleaner, with fresh laundry, a hot dinner, and cute kids he can show off. You say help me, and his world gets smaller and darker and stiffling and so he lashes out until you get back in your box. Don't let your young children go through that cycle repeatedly, it will screw then up so bad it will remain with them through their adult relationships. He is cycling through love and rejection multiple times a day and that will screw any adult up, never mind pre schoolers.

I suspect it's time. Time to check your finances, benefits, cms, housing.

muggart · 20/10/2024 00:12

He sounds awful. it must be crushing your self worth being treated like this every day for years

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 20/10/2024 00:15

SillyBear1 · 19/10/2024 17:44

How do you speak to a DH that is being, IMO, very selfish and when you try and communicate how it makes you feel/that it’s not ideal, just shuts you down. Also will happily have a big strop in front of the children but if I try and say one comment which is in no way negative or not for them to hear, just talks over me not to speak in front of the children?

DH makes no effort in the house - I take on the mental and physical load of everything and he just seemingly walks around with blinkers on ignoring everything that needs doing and making mess. He does cook sometimes but when I’ve already made the weekly meal plan and ensured we had ingredients.

We don’t have a lot of disposable income at the minute (childcare) and are currently going through a remortgage. In recent months into past few weeks he’s had an abroad stag, a night away with friends staying over in a hotel and is wanting to go to another night out next week (will include train travel) plus the ‘home’ version of this stag do (again will need train or bus travel to get to) a couple of weeks later. He’s also booked and already paid for another stag in a few months time, yet he’s refusing to discuss it as he just keeps joking, he’ll discuss it after Christmas so it doesn’t ruin Christmas?

I’m not someone who thinks you give up everything when you have a family and can’t go out but, I do think they should come first and if you don’t have the money/aren’t helping at home, you can’t just please yourself.

My other annoyance is that he makes no effort to do anything with me. He doesn’t compliment me or offer much affection (complete opposite from how he was when we first got together) and I’ve said so many times, I wish he’d just put as much effort into doing something with me - going out for a meal/a ‘date’ night/us going to stay out for a night with what little money we have. Obviously I could plan things but that’s not my point and if I did that, it’d just become something else I don’t have the mental space for and something else done for him he can just plod along with rather than him doing it because he ‘wants’ to - if that makes sense!
He thinks it’s okay as he’s spending money left over in his ‘own’ bank account after our money has gone into the joint for bills etc (but we often need this topping up).

He is also completely obsessed with football. If there’s a match on, he’ll drop it on me on the day, demand we cut any family outing short to be home, takes over the living room TV (the main place the children play which makes them cross as they don’t want to see it), physically cannot move or help with anything else whilst it’s on and has teenager strops if he can’t watch it.

Today was one of those days as we’ve had a few TV provider issues this week and he couldn’t get it on. We’d been out to get some pumpkins and he decided he wanted to carve them today. It wasn’t done by the time of the match, so in his fume that it wasn’t working, turned on us and started shouting and speaking rudely to DS and I about how I’d just left all the stuff all over (I was having a 2 minute sit down as I haven’t been well this week either and was feeling dizzy).

He then started saying it was me who’d wanted to do the carving and stormed off upstairs as DS started pressing buttons on the remote to turn it off, not before revving the drill he’d got out as a pumpkin carving ‘hack’ in a way which made DS ask him to stop scaring him.
I had asked him calmly a good few times to stop being so over the top about football and to stop speaking to us like that.

DS then shouted him from the hallway wondering where he’d gone and he had a go at me for ‘allowing’ him to do this when he needed his time to calm down, likening it to my neurodiversity where I occasionally need a couple of minutes to regulate after overstimulation.

After a bit, he came back downstairs, all sweetness and light again as he had reset the TV box - no apology. I pointed out it might be worth it, even just to DS but he refused as if he had no reason to and blamed us for not understanding why he ‘needs’ to watch it and purposely antagonising him (DS with the remote/me ‘allowing’ him to shout up to DH etc).

He’s promised them he will take them to FIL’s today so they started playing up a little, wondering when they would be going. It’s seemingly expected I have to keep them quiet and out of his way so he can watch undisturbed. He then started having a go at me about how they weren’t ready to go (despite him being the ones taking them yet wanting to be glued to the TV) and got angry that I (again I point out, have been unwell for days) hadn’t got them ready with shoes on etc, for him to just take once the match was finished.

Towards the end (I’m talking ET), DS picked up the remote and he immediately started flapping and panicking, begging him not to take the remote. DD was stood in front of him with her arms up asking him to carry her about 5 times, whilst he just ignored her, engrossed in the TV so I had to point out to him she was talking to him.

I feel like a glorified parent of 3. I often wonder if this is what marriages get like over time and I’m unrealistic in expecting to have someone who compliments me, might come home with a bunch of flowers or chocolate once in a blue moon or out of nowhere says, right, on X day, we’re doing X. He always makes me feel like a burden and an old nag who stands in the way of him doing what he wants to do and that’s his stand point.
I’m only early 30’s so it makes me feel a bit rubbish that feeling unloved is what my life is!

Gosh this has given me an insight into what life would have been like if my ex fiance hadn't left just before the baby arrived and I'm happier to be single! I vote ltb

Codlingmoths · 20/10/2024 00:22

This is not how marriages get. This sounds absolutely intolerable for you and the dc. I would channel all my energy and effort into the leaving him plan, talking to him is a complete waste of time and as for trying to get him to understand, you might as well pour that energy into discovering how to colonise the sun, you’ll get just as much results. So put it into you please.

Errahstop · 20/10/2024 00:58

If you and your children aren't the people he'd most like to spend time with, there is an issue. It sounds like he is quite immature and I doubt he is wilfully trying to be a pig but you do not have to put up with this. You have to have a conversation where he just listens to your frustration and perhaps you can calmly explain why you feel hard done by. If the roles were reversed and you did what he does, how would he react? He might get annoyed that you are calling him out but if you don't, who will?

CrazyGoatLady · 20/10/2024 01:16

SillyBear1 · 19/10/2024 23:29

You raise very valid points LittleGreenDragons.
It feels like it’s driving me a bit crazy at times - wondering why I’m not enough, why he can’t be bothered to put in any effort etc etc. Then I have some very brief moments of clarity where I think that I shouldn’t have to feel this way.

I am starting to feel very resentful that this is my life.

Why I'm not enough
This isn't about you. Please don't blame yourself. This is a man that is too immature and self involved for marriage and fatherhood. Stropping because he misses a few minutes of the football, what is he, a six year old?!

Why he can't be bothered to put in any effort
See above. Also, he's not had to - you're compensating currently for his shitty parenting and his laziness.

Does he have parents who think the sun shines out of his arse for existing? A very overindulgent mother, perhaps?

I shouldn’t have to feel this way
No, you shouldn't. Unfortunately you are married to a man baby. Better off a single parent than doing everything for your kids AND carrying this dead weight around.

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 20/10/2024 01:18

He's checked out entirely from the marriage. It sounds like he's too lazy to actively seek a new woman but probably hoping to meet one on these stag dos, and then you'll get the script. He wont leave until he has another live-in maid to go to.
Start preparing.

arethereanyleftatall · 20/10/2024 07:34

This is him op. He's selfish, lazy and vile. No talking, pleading, begging will change that. Ironically, the more you try to please him, to fix this, the worse he will get. 'What's in it for me' is the mantra he will always live by.

First thing is to accept that.

Then accept that you will divorce at sone point. The only choice you have is when.

ANYONE who has a benefit of hindsight here will tell you do it sooner rather than later.

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