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He says he wants to go but then changes his mind. Please help me get my head straight.

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Rockbttm · 08/10/2024 08:20

I’ve been with my husband for ten years. Married for five and we have two daughters (under ten). He was recently diagnosed with ADHD which goes some way to explaining the issues we’ve experienced in the past (pre-children) where he struggled with addiction (not to substances) and making reckless decisions as well as struggling to remember or to follow through with chores and responsibilities.

This really stepped up when we had our second child and over the years I genuinely thought maybe he just didn’t care about me. I took on most of the mental load and chores and although he kept saying he would do more, and genuinely seemed remorseful and upset, nothing changed. We’ve managed fine with me taking more of the organisational stuff and I love him very much so that was okay.

in the summer, I had an abortion. I got pregnant unplanned and we couldn’t keep the baby because it would have meant a huge disruption emotionally and physically (we don’t have the space) for my daughters, one of whom is also neurodiverse. It broke my heart because I always wanted three children and the timing meant I had to have the abortion during the anniversary of my mums death two years ago from cancer.

My husband didn’t cope well. He felt I blamed him (I probably did when I was deeply hurt) and he didn’t want to talk about it so we never sid. He called the baby a bunch of cells which make it easier for him but to me it wasn’t I know what those cells grow into and I grieved what my life could have looked like. It was the worst thing I’ve ever done.

Over the next few months I could feel him withdrawing from me. We stopped being intimate (we haven’t had sex in over four months), he stopped touching me and he didn’t want to spend time together. Meanwhile, he went out more often doing his hobbies and for more involved in his community groups. During this time he became very close to another woman and they were talking quite intimately about their lives. I felt deeply uncomfortable with this but didn’t have the words to express why because he kept telling me she was just a friend. She then moved her child into an activity our child does which means they saw each other more often but that was coincidental. I did eventually speak to
him about this after a friend of mine saw them together and let me know she felt it wasn’t all innocent. He was very angry initially and didn’t see the issue but then eventually became upset about the hurt her caused me.

In the meantime he withdrew emotionally completely. I can only describe it as my husband who I knew has gone. I see glimpses of him and he is still kind towards me but the playfulness and the intimacy and the fun has gone.

I have worked really hard to not get cross when he hasn’t done stuff and to be more understanding and I couldn’t understand why it wasn’t making a difference. I understand that due to his adhd, there are some imbalances in our marriage that will always be there and I thought about it a lot before deciding I could cope with that because I love him and he brings so much to my life that it is worth it.

He started therapy recently but if anything things have become more distant. I finally confronted him last night and after much taking he told me he thinks he wants to live alone, see the children half the week and not be together. He says he loves me but he doesn’t think our home is a safe place- his therapists words. He said that he messes up and it makes me unhappy and makes him feel terrible and so he’d rather be alone. He said he no longer trusts the things I say (I have talked about divorce previously when I was doing everything and asking for just some support with a few tasks and he couldn’t keep up.). He said he’s worried I’ll make life hard for him if he wants to leave. He said he’d come back to do the school run and things and so nothing would change. He said he feels he’s had an emotional affair with this woman and he can’t forgive himself. I have tried to get him to talk more about that because he told me they barely message but it doesn’t make sense.

The idea he’s painting of me is so upsetting. I have always tried to support him. Even when things have been touch it has been me reading every book, every podcast, buying chore games etc to try to make things better. I have supported him through family breakdowns, depression, redundancies etc. The things he’s saying about our marriage and about me I don’t recognise.

I am not perfect. I wish I’d know about his adhd earlier, so much could have been different, but the moment I knew I read books and tried to understand how to do things differently. But all of it is too late.

After the conversation, I tried to leave and he begged me not to. He wouldn’t let me go and he said his head is a mess and he doesn’t mean it but I can’t unhear it and I can’t I see the change in his behaviour towards me. I have told him I love him and if he needs to move out then I will support him. Inside I want to beg but I know that won’t help. But he keeps changing his mind. Basically, I need an outside perspective. I am so in this that I can’t see the wood for the trees. I have lost weight, I feel sick a lot of the time. I am devastated at what this will all mean. I’ll likely lose our home. I don’t know how we’ll find another flat where we live. And I love him. I’ve just taken on a new job and it has taken everything in me to get out of bed today and not cry in front of my girls. Please help.

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MixieMatchie · 09/10/2024 11:39

Rockbttm · 09/10/2024 09:19

He didn’t push for it, it was the right thing to do for our existing children especially given the needs of one of them but it was immensely awful for me given I’d always wanted three. I don’t know if he knew that. It was more his reaction afterwards that was hard, the matter of fact dismissal of what I meant to me and then his subsequent emotional investment in another woman because he felt I wasn’t there for him when something happened that affected him deeply. Truthfully, I wasn’t there for him. I was reeling from the whole thing and just couldn’t take on anymore grief or pain. I was scared that if I did I would have a breakdown and couldn’t parent my girls properly. But he sees it as a lack of care in him.

He is being rather self-centred, then. It sounds like he feels guilty, and uncomfortable about that feeling, therefore his feelings have now become your problem, and his excuse for his subsequent bad behaviour. It was a difficult event for both of you, but somehow he's made it all about him when you are really the one most affected.

Rockbttm · 09/10/2024 12:28

MixieMatchie · 09/10/2024 11:39

He is being rather self-centred, then. It sounds like he feels guilty, and uncomfortable about that feeling, therefore his feelings have now become your problem, and his excuse for his subsequent bad behaviour. It was a difficult event for both of you, but somehow he's made it all about him when you are really the one most affected.

Thank you for this perspective, it makes sense because I feel I have suddenly become the reason for all of his unhappy feelings. They seem to all have been projected on to me and therefore the problem will be solved if I’m not around and he moves out.

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Rockbttm · 09/10/2024 12:32

I am trying the grey rock method suggested previously, I’m sorry I can’t remember who advised that. It’s helping me to keep a barrier between him and I but he’s not making it easy. I wore a new dress to work today, I bought a couple of new things recently because the stress of the last few months of his behaviour and the not knowing/situation with this other woman caused me to lose weight. He asked if it was a new dress and told me it looked great. I was polite but non-comittal but inside I’m in turmoil. Why is he complimenting what I look like when he’s told me he wants a divorce? I don’t understand at all.

He is meant to be going away on business for a few days next week but is now talking about cancelling it. I was going to use those days to try to get some paperwork in order so that I can understand what it’s going to look like if he just goes.

I never wanted any of this and I am still holding onto hope which I know is stupid, he wouldn’t have said all of that to then change his mind. I just feel desperately sad for myself and for my girls.

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Comtesse · 09/10/2024 13:14

He is proper messing with your head. He is projecting all his bad emotions onto you. What a manipulative, self-centred arse he is being.

Rockbttm · 09/10/2024 14:20

Comtesse · 09/10/2024 13:14

He is proper messing with your head. He is projecting all his bad emotions onto you. What a manipulative, self-centred arse he is being.

It feels like he is pulling away and then trying to get close constantly. He didn’t yesterday and then blanked me when I got home. Its hell.

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