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One pint then driving

102 replies

DustyLee123 · 03/10/2024 08:35

I hate drink driving, full stop. But I’ve just discovered that my DH has one pint when he arrives at the match, and then drives home.
If I say anything I’m controlling, and many people think one drink (although this is two units) is ok, but I’m thrown by it.

OP posts:
FrenchandSaunders · 03/10/2024 11:37

Absolutely fine.

Sprogonthetyne · 03/10/2024 11:39

One pint when he arrives at the match, by the time he drives home 3 hours later, a lot of alcohol has left his system.

NunyaBeeswax · 03/10/2024 11:53

coffeesaveslives · 03/10/2024 11:22

@NunyaBeeswax I know several people involved in drink driving accidents - in precisely none of them had the drivers had one pint several hours ago.

They were all multiple times over the limit.

I'm not going to criticise someone for having a pint of beer at a match and legally driving home afterwards - you crack on though if that's what floats your boat 🤷‍♀️

Why do you keep tagging me?

It's obvious you're in support of alcohol and driving and I'm not. I'm not gonna change your mind and you're not going to change mine.

If people have lost loved ones to car accidents involving alcohol and they think it's fine to drink any amount and still drive, it's up to them and their conscience to live with, not mine.

Or are you tagging me because you want the last word? Ok, fine. You have at it.
I won't be returning to the thread after this even if you tag me. Arguing the toss with unknown and meaningless people on MN serves zero purpose, I've made my opinion clear and I can only hope OP is ok and their OH never kills anyone.

Go. Well.

Flopsythebunny · 03/10/2024 11:56

Sprogonthetyne · 03/10/2024 11:39

One pint when he arrives at the match, by the time he drives home 3 hours later, a lot of alcohol has left his system.

It's isn't 3 hours. It's less than 2.
I agree with op. The limit for alcohol when driving should be zero

rainfallpurevividcat · 03/10/2024 11:57

What we were told by the police when they came into my college was that even with one drink if you then were involved in a accident, breathalysed and under the limit but had alcohol in your system it could mean a more severe penalty if it was found to have impaired your judgement or control.

So there is a risk, albeit a slight one. I do personally have one drink then drive every now and then.

Figment1982 · 03/10/2024 12:02

Flopsythebunny · 03/10/2024 11:56

It's isn't 3 hours. It's less than 2.
I agree with op. The limit for alcohol when driving should be zero

It's not less than 2 hours. Especially if it's a premier league match.. given the VAR delays 🙄 he won't be getting out of the ground less than 2 hours before he had to put his pint down, never mind back to his car.

And I say that as someone who made a vow at 17 that they would not drink a single drop of alcohol and then drive, and has stuck to it. But if he is truly having his one pint before the game and that's it, it seems reasonable to me.

Spooks139 · 03/10/2024 12:06

NunyaBeeswax · 03/10/2024 08:45

Who will pick up the pieces if this knight if a man has an accident?
Then is found to be over the limit when it happensed, when pleads his case in court, if loses his license, when he has to live with the guilt of the accident?

People think "One pint is fine"
No, no it isn't.

It's alcohol in the breath and or blood sample that dictates the legal limit, not units or number of drinks had.
Dependant on beer type, metabolism, age, weight etc one pint, could lead to catastrophe.
The only safe amount of alcohol if driving is zero.

Unless her fella weighs about 2 stone dripping wet he is not going to have a catastrophic accident on the way home from a match hours later caused by alcohol influence after 1 pint.

Sprogonthetyne · 03/10/2024 12:07

Flopsythebunny · 03/10/2024 11:56

It's isn't 3 hours. It's less than 2.
I agree with op. The limit for alcohol when driving should be zero

It's two hours from kick off to final wishlist, if there's no penalties or extra time. But even then I'm going to assume he didn't drive up to the pitch just as the game started, and drive off the instant the game ended. So perhaps we can give him some time either side to get in/out of the stadium and back to wherever he left the car.

Notasunnydayhere · 03/10/2024 12:09

Flopsythebunny · 03/10/2024 11:56

It's isn't 3 hours. It's less than 2.
I agree with op. The limit for alcohol when driving should be zero

It's not less than 2 hours. 90 minutes for the match, 15 minutes half time plus added time in both halves, plus exiting the ground plus walking back to the car.

BadSkiingMum · 03/10/2024 12:18

I personally apply a zero alcohol limit to myself if I’m driving and have done for three years now. In fact, I don’t even drink if I’m due to be driving first thing the next morning. I enjoy a glass of wine, sometimes two, but only on a Friday or Saturday night.

Rigid? Yes. But that’s because it’s essential for our family for me to be able to drive. I either drive on fast rural roads or one of the busiest stretches of motorway in the country, every weekday. There have been 4 fatal accidents on my routes since I have been driving them regularly. So I don’t want there to be any grey area in the event of an accident.

But I don’t expect others to stick to a zero alcohol driving limit, although I do believe in it myself - it’s a strict regime that’s just for me!

PodgePie · 03/10/2024 12:24

Fluffyc1ouds · 03/10/2024 09:21

He sounds really sensible. The saying where I live is "5 and drive" and that's a problem.

South West by any chance?!

Ottercave · 03/10/2024 12:29

Flopsythebunny · 03/10/2024 11:56

It's isn't 3 hours. It's less than 2.
I agree with op. The limit for alcohol when driving should be zero

We have one pint in the Fanzone at the ground before we watch our local team play. We finish the pint by 2.30 so we have time to meander round to the turnstiles, go to the toilet, maybe queue for the tea bar and then make our way to our seats and be sat ready for kick off at 3pm. After the game we don't get back to the car in the club car park until about 5pm.
That means in total that it is 2 1/2 hours between finishing our one pint and one of us driving.
This is non league as well. I can imagine that further up the leagues there would be a much longer time between the two.

Gigglesqueak · 03/10/2024 12:35

CautiousLurker · 03/10/2024 11:34

But you really are being pious. People get into accidents every day without being under the influence of alcohol (as a PP says above 83% of traffic deaths do not involve alcohol); and one drink, 2-3hours before driving absolutely will not impair driving. Scientific fact born out by govt crime stats.

No, I'm definitely not being pious, I'm not making out that I'm better than anyone because of my personal point of view. I even stated that I wasn't being pious just to clarify it.
For the record, science tells us that after consuming 1 pint of beer, alcohol is detectable in the bloodstream for at least 4 hours post consumption.
Of course many accidents happen without alcohol being involved, statistically it would be impossible for that not to be the case.
My main point is that any alcohol in the system impairs judgement and simply that if I personally had a pint then drove and was in an accident, hit someone etc my own conscious would trouble me. The what if question.
As I say, my opinion and the standard I live by.

coffeesaveslives · 03/10/2024 12:39

You're the one who keeps responding with a load of statistics @NunyaBeeswax 🙄

Also, telling someone they're in "favour of drink driving" when they're actually just supporting the law is just ridiculous 😂

Garlicnaan · 03/10/2024 12:41

rainfallpurevividcat · 03/10/2024 11:57

What we were told by the police when they came into my college was that even with one drink if you then were involved in a accident, breathalysed and under the limit but had alcohol in your system it could mean a more severe penalty if it was found to have impaired your judgement or control.

So there is a risk, albeit a slight one. I do personally have one drink then drive every now and then.

Interesting.

I don't drink at all if I'm driving, alright I used to a bit when younger. It's just not worth it. There are usually some nice non alcoholic beers on offer these days. Don't see the point in taking the risk.

outdooryone · 03/10/2024 12:42

I don't do it by choice, and living in Scotland you cannot as it would take you over the prescribed limit.
I did do it back in the 1990's, but times moved on and I chose not to.

bakewellbride · 03/10/2024 12:42

Yanbu op. I don't understand drinking then driving, it's just not worth the risk. I'm teetotal but dh would never, ever drink then drive.

TickingAlongNicely · 03/10/2024 12:45

Is anyone actually condoning drink driving, or pointing out the science that the man may have zero alcohol left in his system by the time he is behind the wheel, a couple of hours later? He's not downing the pint in the car park as he sets off.

A lot of accidents happen the morning after, when people drink heavily but believe they are safe after sleeping a few hours

ItGhoul · 03/10/2024 12:49

One pint when he arrives at the match? So he's not even driving until at least two hours after he's had his one drink?

That's absolutely fine and normal. He will be well below the limit for driving and it's not a problem.

allaboutthat · 03/10/2024 12:50

@coffeesaveslives what strange responses you have, it's almost like you're defending having wine or beer then driving. Seems a strange hill to die on but whatever floats your boat I guess.

@KittenOnTheTable why the sad face emoji regarding not having a pint then driving? Again, a strange response.

IDontHateRainbows · 03/10/2024 12:52

If it's before the match not after I dint see the problem

Alcohol will be mainly.out of his system by the time the match ends

ttcat37 · 03/10/2024 12:52

It’s not drink driving though is it? Drink driving is over the legal limit. On average it takes 1 hour for the body to process 1 unit. A pint is 2-3 units. From parking the car, walking to the stadium, sitting through the match and then extra time etc, getting through crowds back to car, you’re looking at 2.5 hours. Unless he’s not eaten or drank all day there will be barely any alcohol left in his system. If he feels perfectly normal and not impaired by the alcohol then I don’t think you can say he shouldn’t be driving.

Gigglesqueak · 03/10/2024 12:54

allaboutthat · 03/10/2024 08:52

It depends where you live. In England it's legal although that doesn't mean it's necessarily sensible. In Scotland it wouldn't be legal as we have a stricter legal limit which I for one as very glad of. So you'll get different answers depending where the poster stays and it does matter as it's the difference between whether her partner is breaking the law or not.

I also live in Scotland and am glad of the reduced limit. It doesn't affect me as I don't touch booze at all if I'm going to be driving but I've seen the reduced limit having an effect on many people, people that previously would have had one pint now don't touch it. It can only be a good thing.

allaboutthat · 03/10/2024 12:55

@Gigglesqueak totally agree with you Smile

Hayley1256 · 03/10/2024 12:57

What's he's doing is perfectly legal. It does sound like you are been controlling. Drink driving to me is when someone is over the legal limit

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