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coffeesaveslives · 03/10/2024 10:05

allaboutthat · 03/10/2024 09:53

@coffeesaveslives possibly but is it a risk worth taking given the limit here is 22 micrograms per 100 ml of breath? Given so many things affect how we process alcohol- weight, height, sex, stress levels, etc it seems a silly risk when it's very avoidable.

Whether it's worth the risk is up to the driver - not the OP or anyone on here.

Millions of people happily go out for dinner, have a beer or a wine and then drive home every single day 🤷‍♀️

coffeesaveslives · 03/10/2024 10:07

@NunyaBeeswax why are you assuming you know better than the driver in this case then?

Millions of people have a drink at the pub or with dinner and then drive home afterwards - and they do it every single day.

As PP said, the people who wrap their cars around trees or drive at 70 through town centres and kill people are not the "one pinters" - they're the ones who are 3-4 times over the limit and can barely stand up.

coffeesaveslives · 03/10/2024 10:09

Mumsgirls · 03/10/2024 09:54

It’s not the one pint people who kill. When you watch the tv programs, they are usually twice the limit. There is no scientific evidence for 100% ban. He seems to be a sensible man respecting the law, but that is not good enough.

Exactly!

Imagine a thread where a woman went out to dinner with friends, had a glass of wine and drove home afterwards, only to be "told off" by her husband for drink driving!

Everyone would be completely up in arms and telling her what a controlling wanker he was.

KittenOnTheTable · 03/10/2024 10:11

Are you in England or Scotland? In Scotland you can't even have one pint then drive 😔

easylikeasundaymorn · 03/10/2024 10:14

NunyaBeeswax · 03/10/2024 08:45

Who will pick up the pieces if this knight if a man has an accident?
Then is found to be over the limit when it happensed, when pleads his case in court, if loses his license, when he has to live with the guilt of the accident?

People think "One pint is fine"
No, no it isn't.

It's alcohol in the breath and or blood sample that dictates the legal limit, not units or number of drinks had.
Dependant on beer type, metabolism, age, weight etc one pint, could lead to catastrophe.
The only safe amount of alcohol if driving is zero.

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Whether YOU think its "fine" or not doesn't matter
For most people (particularly most men) one pint several hours earlier would give him a blood alcohol level that is completely LEGAL to drive.

If you care about perfect and total "safety" then someone who has drunk a pint but is otherwise driving in ideal conditions could still be much safer to drive than someone who hasn't slept for hours, who has a migraine, who has taken strong medication, who has children screaming in the back, who has a barely roadworthy car, who doesnt know whre theyre going, etc......

NunyaBeeswax · 03/10/2024 10:15

coffeesaveslives · 03/10/2024 10:07

@NunyaBeeswax why are you assuming you know better than the driver in this case then?

Millions of people have a drink at the pub or with dinner and then drive home afterwards - and they do it every single day.

As PP said, the people who wrap their cars around trees or drive at 70 through town centres and kill people are not the "one pinters" - they're the ones who are 3-4 times over the limit and can barely stand up.

Actually, its the extreme over the limit cases that make the news, the 'i only had one pint' dont make headlines.

Oh, and do I know better than the driver?
Maybe.

I'd ask why he hid it.. why he does it..

He hid it because he knows he shouldn't or that op wouldn't like it.
He drinks for 3 reasons, maybe.
1 he likes the feeling - so he shouldn't drive as it's affected him and his judgement.
2 he likes the taste - so he could have non alcoholic.
3 peer pressure - so he's a feeble minded weak and easily led man that likely admitted to jne but the truth is two or three.

Anyway. Whatever.

I hope no one's lives are touched by a drunk driver who thought they were probably fine.

coffeesaveslives · 03/10/2024 10:25

@NunyaBeeswax he's not a drunk driver 🙄

Unless OP is in a country where you can't drink at all, one pint two hours before getting behind the wheel is not going to put a healthy adult male over the UK limit.

If you have an issue with the drink drive laws then I suggest taking it up with the government.

eurochick · 03/10/2024 10:25

This is fine. It's not illegal. In my view it's not immoral. As others have said his body will have metabolised the alcohol before he drives. I won't drive under the influence but I would have no compunction about driving in these circumstances. The alcohol will not be impairing him 2 hours after drinking it.

MarchingOnTogether · 03/10/2024 10:33

We do the same when we go to football.
Pre match pint around 20 mins before kick off, neither of us gets one at half time, both because one of us has to drive home but also because the queues are horrendous! Set off driving home about 2 hours after that one drink, absolutely nothing wrong with that!

NunyaBeeswax · 03/10/2024 10:35

coffeesaveslives · 03/10/2024 10:25

@NunyaBeeswax he's not a drunk driver 🙄

Unless OP is in a country where you can't drink at all, one pint two hours before getting behind the wheel is not going to put a healthy adult male over the UK limit.

If you have an issue with the drink drive laws then I suggest taking it up with the government.

You're very invested in defending alcohol consumption and driving and in defending the OP husband. Why is that?

He knows OP wouldn't like it, so hid it from her - so he's a liar.. which then follows, if he knew her stance and opinion enough to hide it, but was forced to admit to a pint.. chances are hes admitted to bare minimum and not the truth.

He then, apparently, has called her controlling for her voicing those valid concerns - shutting her down and making her think twice about questioning him again.

6800 people were killed in 2023. Pick a name from that list. Email them. Let them know you think alcohol consumption and driving is just dandy...

Meadowfinch · 03/10/2024 10:37

Most people I know will have one drink, and still drive. Most are experienced, responsible, value their licences and know their limits.

I will have one 175ml glass of wine or a half of cider, and drive. Never more.
I have always done this and never had a problem. I have been breathalysed twice, once in the 1990s when it came green 2 hours after I had one glass of Pimm's and once in 2011 when, with a more modern device it showed zero because I hadn't had any alcohol for 16 days.

I am always fully aware of how much I have consumed. I do not drink at all if I am taking pain or flu medication.

Yabu if your DH is a responsible intelligent adult and an experienced driver. It is his decision, not yours.

Arlanymor · 03/10/2024 10:38

NunyaBeeswax · 03/10/2024 10:35

You're very invested in defending alcohol consumption and driving and in defending the OP husband. Why is that?

He knows OP wouldn't like it, so hid it from her - so he's a liar.. which then follows, if he knew her stance and opinion enough to hide it, but was forced to admit to a pint.. chances are hes admitted to bare minimum and not the truth.

He then, apparently, has called her controlling for her voicing those valid concerns - shutting her down and making her think twice about questioning him again.

6800 people were killed in 2023. Pick a name from that list. Email them. Let them know you think alcohol consumption and driving is just dandy...

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My aunt and uncle were killed by a drunk driver.

I don't drink and drive - but I have absolutely no problem with someone else having a drink provided they are within the legal limits.

DogInATent · 03/10/2024 10:56

NunyaBeeswax · 03/10/2024 10:15

Actually, its the extreme over the limit cases that make the news, the 'i only had one pint' dont make headlines.

Oh, and do I know better than the driver?
Maybe.

I'd ask why he hid it.. why he does it..

He hid it because he knows he shouldn't or that op wouldn't like it.
He drinks for 3 reasons, maybe.
1 he likes the feeling - so he shouldn't drive as it's affected him and his judgement.
2 he likes the taste - so he could have non alcoholic.
3 peer pressure - so he's a feeble minded weak and easily led man that likely admitted to jne but the truth is two or three.

Anyway. Whatever.

I hope no one's lives are touched by a drunk driver who thought they were probably fine.

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Who hid what?

The OP mentions she's only just found this out, it does not mean her husband was hiding or denying it.

CautiousLurker · 03/10/2024 10:56

One drink and then driving some time later is fine. A pint is about 2 units. The body processes those at 1 unit an hour (rule of thumb, but on the BBC science pages), so if he is driving an hour or more later he is well within the legal limit for driving. You can actually metabolise it quicker/better if you eat with it too (burger at half time?)

Agree with others here, in the UK we don’t have a no drink so it sounds as though he is being very responsible by just having the one pint. You need to let him make his own decisions, which seem to be responsible.

AgainandagainandagainSS · 03/10/2024 10:58

I hate drink driving too but if he is consuming the point before the match, it should have worked its way out of his system by the end of the match and the time he drives home.
Be honest OP - is your issue actually him going to these matches? Compared with a lot of men he sounds pretty responsible.

Hardlyworking · 03/10/2024 11:10

NunyaBeeswax · 03/10/2024 10:35

You're very invested in defending alcohol consumption and driving and in defending the OP husband. Why is that?

He knows OP wouldn't like it, so hid it from her - so he's a liar.. which then follows, if he knew her stance and opinion enough to hide it, but was forced to admit to a pint.. chances are hes admitted to bare minimum and not the truth.

He then, apparently, has called her controlling for her voicing those valid concerns - shutting her down and making her think twice about questioning him again.

6800 people were killed in 2023. Pick a name from that list. Email them. Let them know you think alcohol consumption and driving is just dandy...

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Where on earth are you making these figures up from? You obviously have a huge anti alcohol axe to grind. At least try and use semi realistic statistics to back up your hysterical claims.

In 2023 there were a TOTAL of 1645 deaths on the UK roads. Approx 280 of these were due to alcohol comsuption over the legal limit.

Source : https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-provisional-results-2023/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-provisional-results-2023#:~:text=these%20statistics%20section.-,Headline%20figures,of%203%25%20compared%20to%202022

Reported road casualties Great Britain, provisional results: 2023

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-provisional-results-2023/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-provisional-results-2023#:~:text=these%20statistics%20section.-,Headline%20figures,of%203%25%20compared%20to%202022

Horationor · 03/10/2024 11:13

I'm sure it would be fine.
We have a breathalyser, not that we drive after having a drink but for the morning after.
It is amazing how alcohol can linger into the next day, if you've had a late night.
Highly recommend Alcosense Elite, well worth it.

twomanyfrogsinabox · 03/10/2024 11:19

Buy him one of those breath testing devices so he can check himself before he drives. But sounds OK to me, assuming he's telling the truth and it's not one before a couple at half time and one or two for the road.

kiwiane · 03/10/2024 11:21

He’s an adult and that level of drinking is legal and I’d assume he is okay to drive. Yes, you would be controlling if you asked him to stop.

Gigglesqueak · 03/10/2024 11:21

DustyLee123 · 03/10/2024 08:35

I hate drink driving, full stop. But I’ve just discovered that my DH has one pint when he arrives at the match, and then drives home.
If I say anything I’m controlling, and many people think one drink (although this is two units) is ok, but I’m thrown by it.

I don't want to sound pious or anything but I've not had a single drink then driven for nigh on 40 years. Even one drink can impair concentration.
I take the view that you take a drink and get in an accident or hit someone then it may hang over you for life, 'what if I hadn't had a drink'
Law changes here in Scotland also means we have a lower legal limit than the rest of the UK.
It really I'd best just to not.

coffeesaveslives · 03/10/2024 11:22

@NunyaBeeswax I know several people involved in drink driving accidents - in precisely none of them had the drivers had one pint several hours ago.

They were all multiple times over the limit.

I'm not going to criticise someone for having a pint of beer at a match and legally driving home afterwards - you crack on though if that's what floats your boat 🤷‍♀️

pizzaHeart · 03/10/2024 11:30

NunyaBeeswax · 03/10/2024 08:45

Who will pick up the pieces if this knight if a man has an accident?
Then is found to be over the limit when it happensed, when pleads his case in court, if loses his license, when he has to live with the guilt of the accident?

People think "One pint is fine"
No, no it isn't.

It's alcohol in the breath and or blood sample that dictates the legal limit, not units or number of drinks had.
Dependant on beer type, metabolism, age, weight etc one pint, could lead to catastrophe.
The only safe amount of alcohol if driving is zero.

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Agree with this ^

AutumnTimeForCosy24 · 03/10/2024 11:31

KittenOnTheTable · 03/10/2024 10:11

Are you in England or Scotland? In Scotland you can't even have one pint then drive 😔

The people in Scotland all seem very confused what they can/can't do.

CautiousLurker · 03/10/2024 11:34

Gigglesqueak · 03/10/2024 11:21

I don't want to sound pious or anything but I've not had a single drink then driven for nigh on 40 years. Even one drink can impair concentration.
I take the view that you take a drink and get in an accident or hit someone then it may hang over you for life, 'what if I hadn't had a drink'
Law changes here in Scotland also means we have a lower legal limit than the rest of the UK.
It really I'd best just to not.

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But you really are being pious. People get into accidents every day without being under the influence of alcohol (as a PP says above 83% of traffic deaths do not involve alcohol); and one drink, 2-3hours before driving absolutely will not impair driving. Scientific fact born out by govt crime stats.

GinnyPiggie · 03/10/2024 11:35

As others have said, this isn't a problem for 99% of people.

These threads always make me raise my eyebrows. The most dangerous I've been as a driver is when I had a young baby and hadn't slept for weeks and had to get up to drive to work. By some of these comments, I shouldn't have got behind a wheel until my DC were about ten.