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Partner taking magic mushrooms

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sillysausage40 · 23/09/2024 11:51

Does anyone have a knowledge on this magic mushroom micro dosing that's the craze at the moment?

When I met my partner 3 years ago, he said he USED to micro dose on mushrooms for anxiety.
I took it with a pinch of salt. I don't judge I'm open minded and didn't have much knowledge on it.

The past year he's started "micro dosing" again.
It's such a low dose it's not supposed to get you high or anything like that....
however. . I know when he's had one.
His eyes are red and glazed over. He can't hold a conversation and he's started to slur.

A few weeks ago.. he admitted sometimes he takes a higher dose for a "mini trip" and re set.
Personally I find this ridiculous.
He's a hard working man. Gets up early etc etc. not lazy may I add.

It's upsetting me now as I'm due to have our baby in 14 weeks. I've tried to tell him your eyes are red and glazed over, you're sluring your words and he gets mad and tells me he's sick of me telling him how to live his life and that all I do is nag.

The things is.. I've told him, how can I ever leave our baby with you alone if you look high and you're sluring I'll worry like mad!
He doesn't believe in doctors meds for anxiety etc etc. one of them.

Honestly don't know what to do or think on this one ?

OP posts:
Mrsttcno1 · 23/09/2024 12:01

Personally all drugs are a hard line for me, and I really think they should be for anybody who is having/has a child.

If he won’t stop, permanently, then I’d be walking away from the relationship completely.

They are a Class A drug, and that’s not for no reason. As you say you can never trust him to look after a baby if he is actively using drugs and if he’s unable or unwilling to stop then he’s making a choice, he’s not choosing you.

For reference I have a 5 month old baby now and although it is the best thing ever, I love being a mum, it is also really fucking hard. Especially the first few weeks. You get through it by leaning on your partner, supporting each other, taking shifts sitting awake for hours at night while your tiny baby sleeps on you, taking little breaks for a hot bath in peace etc when you can. You could never trust him to do a few hours at night, you could never trust him to watch baby while you pop out or have a bath, you cannot trust him.

And to put this into perspective, as Class A these are in the same category as Crack, Heroin, LSD etc… if you wouldn’t stay with him if he was using Heroin then you should not be staying with him now.

smallsilvercloud · 23/09/2024 12:08

You are right, you cannot leave the baby with alone while he's still doing this, not worth the risk of the child coming to harm or be taken into care. Seriously he needs to give it up or tell him to leave.

Nobodyreallyknows · 23/09/2024 12:14

If he is doing this knowing he is shortly to become a father then he doesn't seem very invested in his baby or you. He should be supporting you in the final stages of pregnancy and preparing for his new child instead of turning to recreational drugs. If he really has anxiety there are prescription drugs his GP could give him.

I agree with pp he is not a safe person to be around a new born. Or any child for that matter if he is going to continue with his drug use.

Opentooffers · 23/09/2024 12:23

He's not microdosing by the sounds of it. Using it for anxiety is just an excuse and he's doing it recreationally. But if he'd told you from the start, perhaps you would of though twice about being with him and especially about having his baby. He lied basically to keep you around. Getting angry when challenged is him defending his habit, he doesn't want to stop.
What's you living situation?

gamerchick · 23/09/2024 12:25

Micro dosing is a thing and apparently quite effective when don't properly.

Doesn't sound as if he's micro dosing though and you can't leave a baby with someone who's tripping. Sorry man.

Catoo · 23/09/2024 12:27

Do you live together OP?

Illpickthatup · 23/09/2024 12:44

Psilocybin has been clinically proven to treat anxiety and depression. I work in clinical research and was actually involved in setting up and managing a psilocybin trial a few years ago.

I'm very open minded when it comes to drugs and dabble now and again, like a couple of times a year. I think when someone is using anything and relying on them to get through the day then that's a problem. Especially when it's affecting their ability to function. It doesn't sound like he's microdosing.

I have some issues with anxiety and I have ADHD. Like you DP, I try to avoid prescription drugs and I've found using mushroom gummies has really helped my anxiety. I noticed a difference after about 3 weeks. The ones I take (Feel Gud) do not contain any psychedelic mushrooms so completely safe to take daily and they're legal.

If he's having issues managing the dose and will be tempted to increase the dose for a high I think he'd be better off trying something with no psychedelic effects. Or maybe he should take his dose before bed. My DH used to use his cannabis vape just before bed to help him sleep so he was never just walking around stoned.

Illpickthatup · 23/09/2024 12:47

Mrsttcno1 · 23/09/2024 12:01

Personally all drugs are a hard line for me, and I really think they should be for anybody who is having/has a child.

If he won’t stop, permanently, then I’d be walking away from the relationship completely.

They are a Class A drug, and that’s not for no reason. As you say you can never trust him to look after a baby if he is actively using drugs and if he’s unable or unwilling to stop then he’s making a choice, he’s not choosing you.

For reference I have a 5 month old baby now and although it is the best thing ever, I love being a mum, it is also really fucking hard. Especially the first few weeks. You get through it by leaning on your partner, supporting each other, taking shifts sitting awake for hours at night while your tiny baby sleeps on you, taking little breaks for a hot bath in peace etc when you can. You could never trust him to do a few hours at night, you could never trust him to watch baby while you pop out or have a bath, you cannot trust him.

And to put this into perspective, as Class A these are in the same category as Crack, Heroin, LSD etc… if you wouldn’t stay with him if he was using Heroin then you should not be staying with him now.

You cannot compare mushrooms to heroin. Jesus Christ. Just because they are both Class A means nothing. Do you really think the government classes things by how dangerous they are? Alcohol and cigarettes are far more damaging yet they're legal.

Google annual deaths from psilocybin and annual deaths from heroin then come back and tell us all how they're the same.

sillysausage40 · 23/09/2024 12:48

Hi everyone Thankyou for your replies !!
We both have our own houses and was in the process of finding somewhere together. However, no way now. I'm so glad I hadn't gave up my house yet.

Honestly it's horrible to see. He'll be going about his normal day but glazed over and not talking and a bit giggly.
I'm not boring but it's annoying especially in our situation. All I can think is GROW UP.

I honestly prefer to do it on my own and be healthy and clear minded than around him xx

OP posts:
poppyzbrite4 · 23/09/2024 12:50

The way he speaks to you is awful, can't believe he's calling you a nag. Don't move in with him.

Mikunia · 23/09/2024 12:51

This would be a deal breaker for me. I'm zero tolerance on drugs.

I suggest you talk to your midwife about it, they can signpost you to support and also it means it is logged somewhere official should you later need to prove he isn't fit to have your child on his own.

It's up to you if you want you end the relationship but personally I would. I would over the drugs and add I would over being called a "nag" because it's misogynistic and betrays an attitude I don't want in my home.

SallyWD · 23/09/2024 13:06

Micro dosing done properly is supposed to be beneficial and is completely legal. However, it does sound like he's just getting high and that's not what you want with a baby!
Don't move in with him until you're certain he's kicked the habit. I'm sure you wouldn't. You sound like you have your head screwed on.

ginasevern · 23/09/2024 13:13

Your relationship will end when you have the baby. One look at his stupid grinning face, red eyes and slurring speach and you'll ditch him. You'll have a real child to look after, not a man child.

Mrsttcno1 · 23/09/2024 13:16

Illpickthatup · 23/09/2024 12:47

You cannot compare mushrooms to heroin. Jesus Christ. Just because they are both Class A means nothing. Do you really think the government classes things by how dangerous they are? Alcohol and cigarettes are far more damaging yet they're legal.

Google annual deaths from psilocybin and annual deaths from heroin then come back and tell us all how they're the same.

When you’re talking about taking care of a baby, yes you can.

Illpickthatup · 23/09/2024 13:18

Mrsttcno1 · 23/09/2024 13:16

When you’re talking about taking care of a baby, yes you can.

Well in that case wine is the same as heroin.

Mrsttcno1 · 23/09/2024 13:22

Illpickthatup · 23/09/2024 13:18

Well in that case wine is the same as heroin.

Except if you’re pulled over by the police and they find a bottle of wine you’re not going to jail??? There’s also a known with wine, you know how its made, where it comes from, that its safe to drink, you don’t get that with drugs.

You cannot compare wine to heroin or these mushrooms.

It is not safe to be under the influence of drugs and taking care of a baby- full stop.

Autumnweddingguest · 23/09/2024 13:23

The difference between microdosing for health and tripping is the difference between putting a thimbleful of whisky in a hot toddy when you have a cold and downing half a bottle.

Everything you have said is entirely reasonable. Not nagging.

He's being unreliable, in denial and is currently unable and unwilling to prioritise his pregnant partner and future child's wellbeing over his drug habit.

I'd move out, somewhere safe and find a support group for families of drug users as he is the baby's father and unless he sorts himself out will be an ongoing problematic issue in your lives.

DaveWatts · 23/09/2024 13:28

If he was microdosing properly then neither you nor he would really be able to tell, it's such a small amount. He's just tripping which is different. The lying and denial would be really worrying me, definitely don't move in together.

Catoo · 23/09/2024 13:29

sillysausage40 · 23/09/2024 12:48

Hi everyone Thankyou for your replies !!
We both have our own houses and was in the process of finding somewhere together. However, no way now. I'm so glad I hadn't gave up my house yet.

Honestly it's horrible to see. He'll be going about his normal day but glazed over and not talking and a bit giggly.
I'm not boring but it's annoying especially in our situation. All I can think is GROW UP.

I honestly prefer to do it on my own and be healthy and clear minded than around him xx

Well done OP.
Don’t move in with him.

For me seeing a grown man out of it on drugs just once would kill the attraction dead instantly.

I’d call it off and leave him to it. And if you do, don’t be afraid to tell friends and family why so they fully understand.

💐

TheCultureHusks · 23/09/2024 13:31

You’ve only known this guy three years.

He takes drugs and calls his pregnant partner misogynist names to shut her down when she expresses her issue with that.

My honest advice would be - hope for the best maybe, but PLAN for the worst as it’s not only your happiness that depends on it. Don’t give up your independent home and move in with him. Do NOT give the baby his surname - even if you’re getting on famously when you give birth. Think very very hard about putting him on the broth certificate - it gives him rights I certainly wouldn’t want a 3-year boyfriend with a drug problem to have over my baby. And keep your red lines.

If he sorts himself out, fine. If he doesn’t, hopefully you won’t end up with a child saddled with the name of a deadbeat who only surfaces to make life hard for you if you ever decide to move, change schools, or go on holiday without his say-so.

TheCultureHusks · 23/09/2024 13:31

Birth not broth!

Illpickthatup · 23/09/2024 13:33

Mrsttcno1 · 23/09/2024 13:22

Except if you’re pulled over by the police and they find a bottle of wine you’re not going to jail??? There’s also a known with wine, you know how its made, where it comes from, that its safe to drink, you don’t get that with drugs.

You cannot compare wine to heroin or these mushrooms.

It is not safe to be under the influence of drugs and taking care of a baby- full stop.

Haha. You think you'd be going to jail if you were caught with a few mushrooms in your car? That's cute.

You sound very naive about the subject yet very confident in your opinion.

It is also not safe to be under the influence of alcohol with a baby yet you wouldn't class alcohol as the same as heroin but you are doing so with mushrooms?

Mushrooms literally grow out of the ground. You pick them, you dry them out. Much less processed than wine.

Mushrooms are much safer than alcohol so no you can't compare them to heroin.

Tapestree · 23/09/2024 13:47

Are you sure it's mushrooms OP? I am a seasoned enjoyer of magic mushrooms and have never ever seen anyone slurring after having them. They can make you laugh hysterically and become bit spaced out, but slurring doesn't sound right to me.

Mushrooms have saved my MH. Not by microdosing, but by having a few big trips. I haven't had any in a few years- it was like a reset for me.

No way would I care.for a child whilst.tripping though.

ByFirmPoet · 23/09/2024 13:51

If he's not doing under medical supervision or as advised by a clinician then he's just getting high and arsing around.

Kiuyni · 23/09/2024 13:56

Illpickthatup · 23/09/2024 12:47

You cannot compare mushrooms to heroin. Jesus Christ. Just because they are both Class A means nothing. Do you really think the government classes things by how dangerous they are? Alcohol and cigarettes are far more damaging yet they're legal.

Google annual deaths from psilocybin and annual deaths from heroin then come back and tell us all how they're the same.

You can be as cool about it as you like, but it would be a hard no from me when it comes to looking after a newborn.