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Partner taking magic mushrooms

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sillysausage40 · 23/09/2024 11:51

Does anyone have a knowledge on this magic mushroom micro dosing that's the craze at the moment?

When I met my partner 3 years ago, he said he USED to micro dose on mushrooms for anxiety.
I took it with a pinch of salt. I don't judge I'm open minded and didn't have much knowledge on it.

The past year he's started "micro dosing" again.
It's such a low dose it's not supposed to get you high or anything like that....
however. . I know when he's had one.
His eyes are red and glazed over. He can't hold a conversation and he's started to slur.

A few weeks ago.. he admitted sometimes he takes a higher dose for a "mini trip" and re set.
Personally I find this ridiculous.
He's a hard working man. Gets up early etc etc. not lazy may I add.

It's upsetting me now as I'm due to have our baby in 14 weeks. I've tried to tell him your eyes are red and glazed over, you're sluring your words and he gets mad and tells me he's sick of me telling him how to live his life and that all I do is nag.

The things is.. I've told him, how can I ever leave our baby with you alone if you look high and you're sluring I'll worry like mad!
He doesn't believe in doctors meds for anxiety etc etc. one of them.

Honestly don't know what to do or think on this one ?

OP posts:
Toseland · 23/09/2024 13:56

I agree with @Tapestree - I don't think his 'symptoms' match with mushrooms in my experience.

Illpickthatup · 23/09/2024 13:57

Tapestree · 23/09/2024 13:47

Are you sure it's mushrooms OP? I am a seasoned enjoyer of magic mushrooms and have never ever seen anyone slurring after having them. They can make you laugh hysterically and become bit spaced out, but slurring doesn't sound right to me.

Mushrooms have saved my MH. Not by microdosing, but by having a few big trips. I haven't had any in a few years- it was like a reset for me.

No way would I care.for a child whilst.tripping though.

Good point. I've never known anyone to experience slurring words either on mushrooms. But if he's lying about microdosing, because he's clearly not microdosing, he could be lying about taking other substances.

Either way, he's not acting like a responsible person you'd want around your child.

SnowflakeSmasher86 · 23/09/2024 13:59

Tapestree · 23/09/2024 13:47

Are you sure it's mushrooms OP? I am a seasoned enjoyer of magic mushrooms and have never ever seen anyone slurring after having them. They can make you laugh hysterically and become bit spaced out, but slurring doesn't sound right to me.

Mushrooms have saved my MH. Not by microdosing, but by having a few big trips. I haven't had any in a few years- it was like a reset for me.

No way would I care.for a child whilst.tripping though.

I was going to say red eyes and glazed over doesn’t sound like mushrooms to me either.

I’m quite new to psychedelics and never take any other drugs, but mushrooms are fucking brilliant and nothing like heroin etc They absolutely should not be class A as it is impossible to overdose on them and they cause no harm to the surrounding community unlike other substances (alcohol included).

Microdosing for MH or even the occasional trip is not the same as someone using heroin FFS. I wouldn’t take them with my DC around but equally I wouldn’t get drunk around my kids either.

The way your DP has reacted to it would suggest that either a) this is not psilocybin or b) he has other bigger issues than occasional low dose mushroom use.

Illpickthatup · 23/09/2024 13:59

Kiuyni · 23/09/2024 13:56

You can be as cool about it as you like, but it would be a hard no from me when it comes to looking after a newborn.

So would alcohol though. I don't think anyone should be dealing with a newborn under the influence of any substances, illegal or not.

But you still can't compare mushrooms to heroin just because they're both class A.

sillysausage40 · 23/09/2024 14:00

I know he deffo takes mushrooms as I've seen them in a huge bag they are funny looking things aren't they. He grinds them up into powder and puts them in capsules. I've no idea what he takes otherwise?

He's very snappy. Hot and cold. Complete insomnia and hardly sleeps. Etc

I'm starting to think is he over dosing and it's having the opposite effect on his brain x

OP posts:
DrunkTinkerbell40s · 23/09/2024 14:00

@Illpickthatup, you're being very aggressive, the PP was comparing the police actions when finding wine in the car or HEROIN in the car, not mushrooms.

To the OP, I'm not sure I 100% believe he's just taking mushrooms. I'm not sure he would be slurring. I have experience with a drug addict, it destroyed his relationship and family, and he lied CONTINUOUSLY about what he was doing.

If he wont stop at your request and belittles your concerns, raise your baby alone and tell him to take you to court if he wants unsupervised visits.

Good luck xx

Edenmum2 · 23/09/2024 14:06

sillysausage40 · 23/09/2024 12:48

Hi everyone Thankyou for your replies !!
We both have our own houses and was in the process of finding somewhere together. However, no way now. I'm so glad I hadn't gave up my house yet.

Honestly it's horrible to see. He'll be going about his normal day but glazed over and not talking and a bit giggly.
I'm not boring but it's annoying especially in our situation. All I can think is GROW UP.

I honestly prefer to do it on my own and be healthy and clear minded than around him xx

If you split you have to consider that he might want access to your child and I'm not sure how you could navigate that if you don't want to leave him alone with her. I'm not saying don't do it, it's just something you'll have to obviously think through.

housemaus · 23/09/2024 14:07

I'm pro-magic mushrooms, and specifically micro-dosing*. But I would not under any circumstances let someone who was taking a trip-level dose look after my child, ever.

(*Someone close to me has gone from not being able to work and on long-term PIP following a PTSD diagnosis to working full time and no psychiatric medication needed after microdosing for a while - I am pretty evangelical about the potential benefits and there have been a multitude of studies on the benefits of drugs in that family. I'm also not opposed to recreational tripping, tbh. But, as I said, not around or in the care of children).

Begsthequestion · 23/09/2024 14:12

Mrsttcno1 · 23/09/2024 13:22

Except if you’re pulled over by the police and they find a bottle of wine you’re not going to jail??? There’s also a known with wine, you know how its made, where it comes from, that its safe to drink, you don’t get that with drugs.

You cannot compare wine to heroin or these mushrooms.

It is not safe to be under the influence of drugs and taking care of a baby- full stop.

Mushrooms are much easier to trace to source than other substances. You literally pick them from the ground. They are not processed apart from drying, which is optional..

You shouldn't be under the influence of any drugs including alcohol when caring for a baby.

Mrsttcno1 · 23/09/2024 14:22

Illpickthatup · 23/09/2024 13:33

Haha. You think you'd be going to jail if you were caught with a few mushrooms in your car? That's cute.

You sound very naive about the subject yet very confident in your opinion.

It is also not safe to be under the influence of alcohol with a baby yet you wouldn't class alcohol as the same as heroin but you are doing so with mushrooms?

Mushrooms literally grow out of the ground. You pick them, you dry them out. Much less processed than wine.

Mushrooms are much safer than alcohol so no you can't compare them to heroin.

Oh yes I’m sure that will be on the next government agenda x

Illpickthatup · 23/09/2024 14:39

Begsthequestion · 23/09/2024 14:29

I actually worked on this trial. I set up the sites in the UK and trained the site teams. Very interesting trial. The loops we had to jump through to get the trial set up due to its ridiculous classification! There were some countries we planned to include that couldn't be included because the red tape just wouldn't allow it. It's so sad because it really is life-changing for a lot of people but the taboo around it because of an unfair classification and people's perception of it makes it more difficult to do these trials and get it approved.

sunflowersngunpowdr · 24/09/2024 08:47

Doesn't sound like mushrooms. Red eyes and giggling sounds like weed to me. You sure he doesn't smoke weed?

Tdcp · 24/09/2024 09:00

Coming from someone who grew up around drugs including magic mushrooms, he isn't 'micro dosing' if his eyes are red and glazed over. He's using them to get high. I'm not generally convinced that it is just mushrooms either, slurring his words and giggling would suggest he's taking something else as well. He's a drug user and until he admits that and wants to change it himself things will get worse not better.

Dotty87 · 24/09/2024 09:06

It's possible he's just calling it "micro dosing" simply to play down his drug use, it's acceptable that way.

He sounds like he's actually doing far more than that, and becoming aggressive and gaslighting you when questioned.

I couldn't live with him or trust him around myself or my newborn baby.

frozendaisy · 24/09/2024 09:10

Microdosing has been having trails and there is evidence it's effective.

But there is a big leap between taking microdosing under the supervision of someone who knows what they are doing and self medicating with random amounts.

BodyKeepingScore · 24/09/2024 09:23

SallyWD · 23/09/2024 13:06

Micro dosing done properly is supposed to be beneficial and is completely legal. However, it does sound like he's just getting high and that's not what you want with a baby!
Don't move in with him until you're certain he's kicked the habit. I'm sure you wouldn't. You sound like you have your head screwed on.

I microdose. And I can tell you it is 💯 not legal to do so. That said, it saved my life. And I don't say that lightly.

BodyKeepingScore · 24/09/2024 09:24

Tapestree · 23/09/2024 13:47

Are you sure it's mushrooms OP? I am a seasoned enjoyer of magic mushrooms and have never ever seen anyone slurring after having them. They can make you laugh hysterically and become bit spaced out, but slurring doesn't sound right to me.

Mushrooms have saved my MH. Not by microdosing, but by having a few big trips. I haven't had any in a few years- it was like a reset for me.

No way would I care.for a child whilst.tripping though.

Same. What OP describes is not my experience with mushrooms, nor that of anyone else I know who takes/has taken them.
The red eyes and slurring don't sound like psilocybin to me.

BodyKeepingScore · 24/09/2024 09:26

sillysausage40 · 23/09/2024 14:00

I know he deffo takes mushrooms as I've seen them in a huge bag they are funny looking things aren't they. He grinds them up into powder and puts them in capsules. I've no idea what he takes otherwise?

He's very snappy. Hot and cold. Complete insomnia and hardly sleeps. Etc

I'm starting to think is he over dosing and it's having the opposite effect on his brain x

You can't "overdose" on mushrooms. Your body builds up a tolerance to them so quickly that it's almost impossible to "trip" more than once a fortnight. This is well known. Tolerance generally resets after two weeks which is why it's practically impossible to abuse magic mushrooms.

Anotheranonymousnameismine · 24/09/2024 14:56

Hey this sounds stressful - like others I don’t think you’re overreacting op

something that occurred to me reading your account - especially the insomnia and hot and cold… is it possible he is having some kind of mental health issues - whether or not related to the mushrooms.

I’ve heard good things about microdosing but that it is barely perceptible in everyday functioning.

Mushrooms aren’t always great for folks whose family history includes more severe mental illness or psychosis. (In my understanding)

either way - his behaviour and language towards you isn’t acceptable. I think getting help from a professional to think about your options could be good.

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