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What to do?

34 replies

Searchingforsomething2 · 22/09/2024 09:10

Hi name changed for this!
sorry it’s quite a long one!

so I have a partner and we have a child together. Things haven’t always been great between us but over time it has become better. So I thought. He hates mess and likes the house to be pristine at all times (he does no house work whatsoever) this is mainly how he grew up where the mums and sisters would always be cleaning and cooking and even when I visit them they rarely even sit down together as a family because the women need to serve the others.

I hate cleaning, I hate the fact that it’s all on me. I don’t mind doing the odd bits here and there but my child is young and I work part time too (30 hours a week) Anyway, a few months ago he said to me that he is leaving because he can’t stay like this and packed all of his stuff and went to find a room in shared accommodation. He found a place and said :” I’ll give you one last chance if you say to me you can keep the house nice I’ll stay” and gave me 5 minutes to decide.

I obviously wanted him to stay so said yes. It worked for a month but I was staying up late, getting stressed if I had to go out as I needed to clean and cook first. I had some annual leave and I didn’t do much just some light things and he hasn’t talked to me for almost 2 weeks. He’s just giving me the silent treatment. This is causing me so much stress, I don’t want to eat I can’t sleep, I keep waking up in the night, I’m having nightmares. On one of the days he lost the plot and started ignoring our child but then he snapped out of it and keeps saying horrible things to them about me. Like my child will say that’s your toast and this is mine, none for mummy (I wasn’t hungry) and he says back : “mummy doesn’t deserve toast” and he does realise his behaviour towards them was not good so he did say sorry (not to me).

I must say since he hasn’t been talking to me he has been getting himself food from the shop and cooking for himself only, then leaving the mess for me to clean. He does his own laundry and has been sleeping on the sofa.

Is it my fault ? I know I’m not the tidy person he wants me to be but I’m trying , I really am. I just don’t want to start the cleaning, and when I do clean it takes me a long time to do it. I sometimes cut corners like just sweep, don’t mop, don’t always hoover. There are dishes in the kitchen from yesterday but we did have guests and I had to drop them home, then when I got home my child was asleep so put her to bed then I was tired.

I grew up in a house that was always a mess and I have only learnt to do all of these things when I lived by myself from 18 (I met him at 19 I’m now mid 20’s) I just feel so down and ashamed that this could be the end of my relationship and break up of the family for what seems like to me, such a minor thing!

I’d appreciate some advice on what you think is the best thing to do. I don’t want him to leave and I’ve been looking at getting a cleaner but it’s going to put a major dent into my monthly budget as I pay all the bills and for food.

OP posts:
DontBiteTheCat · 22/09/2024 09:11

You need to leave.

The silent treatment is a form of abuse and he has no respect for women. Honestly, let him go. He will ruin your life.

ThisPresetIsSelected · 22/09/2024 09:13

Wave the bullying sulking arsehole a cheery goodbye.

He found a place and said :” I’ll give you one last chance if you say to me you can keep the house nice I’ll stay” and gave me 5 minutes to decide. I obviously wanted him to stay so said yes

Obviously? Why? You'll have to explain your reasoning there.

TwistedWonder · 22/09/2024 09:14

WTAF have I just read?? What a fucking piece of shit this man is. Not only is he abusing you, he’s manipulating your child. You expected to pay all the bills and do all the housework. What exactly does this prince bring to the relationship?

He is absolutely disgusting OP - let him fuck off to his own immaculate show home and you can thrive in your new life without his abuse.

ThisPresetIsSelected · 22/09/2024 09:14

The fact he left his own child over a messy house instead of, you know, tidying the house. Jesus.

Gardenlover121 · 22/09/2024 09:19

Do you want to spend the rest of your life as his domestic slave? Walking on egg shells? He won’t change. You can have a much better life without him esp as you already pay all the bills and food. You can then claim child maintenance from him.

Gardenlover121 · 22/09/2024 09:20

BTW, if he leaves a mess, just leave it. He is already Mr McSulkyface so it won’t make any difference.

Daleksatemyshed · 22/09/2024 09:26

He thinks men work and women do the childcare and keep house. I bet he doesn't complain about you earning money. Sulky man child, let him go Op

Dotty87 · 22/09/2024 09:43

Wave the abusive man child goodbye and pack him off to his shared accommodation. He will need to learn how to look after himself without you.

In the meantime, stop cooking and cleaning up after him, he's a grown adult and fully capable FGS.

Oh and for what it's worth, 30 hours a week is almost full time so there's no wonder you're exhausted from doing everything at home too.

suburberphobe · 22/09/2024 09:45

I pay all the bills and for food.

What? Why?!

He's living for free while treating you like a skivvy.

And talking negatively about you to your child.

Take your child and get the fuck away from him.

TwistedWonder · 22/09/2024 09:56

Daleksatemyshed · 22/09/2024 09:26

He thinks men work and women do the childcare and keep house. I bet he doesn't complain about you earning money. Sulky man child, let him go Op

He thinks men work but he still sits back while OP nit in runs round like a skivvy but also pays all the bills.

Hes 💯 lazy arsed cocklodger

Daleksatemyshed · 22/09/2024 10:07

Absolutely @TwistedWonder . If a couple are happy him working, her being a SAHM then good for them but the number of men who expect a woman to work full time and still do everything else is astonishing

category12 · 22/09/2024 10:14

Wow.

You'll be better off without him.

If he wanted a 1950s housewife, he should be earning enough that you don't need to work and paying for everything, and giving you a nice little allowance to boot.

(That said, it would be a huge mistake for you to make yourself financially dependent on this misogynistic prick. Keep your job, dump the fucker).

OldTinHat · 22/09/2024 10:19

If he wants it tidy/neat then he either does it himself or employs a cleaner/housekeeper. He's the one with the problem, not you.

Actually, you do have a problem. Him.

Suggest that to him, watch him turn a funny shade of purple as he yells at you about how hard he works, he shouldn't be expected to do anything when he gets home except eat the dinner that's been lovingly prepared by you and read the newspaper as you clear up then bath the babies. And why should he spend money on a cleaner, because that's your job. I guarantee that's how that conversation will go. Then you calmly say you'll start clearing up immediately, go and get a bin bag, shove his stuff in it, put it on the doorstep and say 'honey, all the trash is ready to go out now, don't forget to leave your key'.

Blobblobblob · 22/09/2024 10:31

What the actual fuck did I just read?

He wants the house perfect but won't lift a finger?

Get rid of this controlling, misogynistic cunt.

That is all.

poppyzbrite4 · 22/09/2024 11:11

Surely this can't be true.

He's abusive OP. Demanding that you keep the house clean and it's not his responsibility is abusive. Making you pay for everything is financial abuse. Ignoring you is emotional abuse. Badmouthing you to your child is abusive. Threatening to leave unless you do what he wants is abusive. I'm sure this is the tip of the iceberg.

He has extremely sexist and outdated views and you don't have to comply. Contact your local domestic abuse organisation and get some help to leave.

unsync · 22/09/2024 11:15

Do you realise he is abusing you @Searchingforsomething2? Let him go, you will have a much better life without this man.

NoEscapingMe · 22/09/2024 11:45

Like my child will say that’s your toast and this is mine, none for mummy (I wasn’t hungry) and he says back : “mummy doesn’t deserve toast"

That nearly made me cry. He's seriously abusive. You need rid ASAP.

Purplecatshopaholic · 22/09/2024 11:49

TwistedWonder · 22/09/2024 09:14

WTAF have I just read?? What a fucking piece of shit this man is. Not only is he abusing you, he’s manipulating your child. You expected to pay all the bills and do all the housework. What exactly does this prince bring to the relationship?

He is absolutely disgusting OP - let him fuck off to his own immaculate show home and you can thrive in your new life without his abuse.

Edited

Nail. On. Head.

Claire2361 · 22/09/2024 12:15

Searchingforsomething2 · 22/09/2024 09:10

Hi name changed for this!
sorry it’s quite a long one!

so I have a partner and we have a child together. Things haven’t always been great between us but over time it has become better. So I thought. He hates mess and likes the house to be pristine at all times (he does no house work whatsoever) this is mainly how he grew up where the mums and sisters would always be cleaning and cooking and even when I visit them they rarely even sit down together as a family because the women need to serve the others.

I hate cleaning, I hate the fact that it’s all on me. I don’t mind doing the odd bits here and there but my child is young and I work part time too (30 hours a week) Anyway, a few months ago he said to me that he is leaving because he can’t stay like this and packed all of his stuff and went to find a room in shared accommodation. He found a place and said :” I’ll give you one last chance if you say to me you can keep the house nice I’ll stay” and gave me 5 minutes to decide.

I obviously wanted him to stay so said yes. It worked for a month but I was staying up late, getting stressed if I had to go out as I needed to clean and cook first. I had some annual leave and I didn’t do much just some light things and he hasn’t talked to me for almost 2 weeks. He’s just giving me the silent treatment. This is causing me so much stress, I don’t want to eat I can’t sleep, I keep waking up in the night, I’m having nightmares. On one of the days he lost the plot and started ignoring our child but then he snapped out of it and keeps saying horrible things to them about me. Like my child will say that’s your toast and this is mine, none for mummy (I wasn’t hungry) and he says back : “mummy doesn’t deserve toast” and he does realise his behaviour towards them was not good so he did say sorry (not to me).

I must say since he hasn’t been talking to me he has been getting himself food from the shop and cooking for himself only, then leaving the mess for me to clean. He does his own laundry and has been sleeping on the sofa.

Is it my fault ? I know I’m not the tidy person he wants me to be but I’m trying , I really am. I just don’t want to start the cleaning, and when I do clean it takes me a long time to do it. I sometimes cut corners like just sweep, don’t mop, don’t always hoover. There are dishes in the kitchen from yesterday but we did have guests and I had to drop them home, then when I got home my child was asleep so put her to bed then I was tired.

I grew up in a house that was always a mess and I have only learnt to do all of these things when I lived by myself from 18 (I met him at 19 I’m now mid 20’s) I just feel so down and ashamed that this could be the end of my relationship and break up of the family for what seems like to me, such a minor thing!

I’d appreciate some advice on what you think is the best thing to do. I don’t want him to leave and I’ve been looking at getting a cleaner but it’s going to put a major dent into my monthly budget as I pay all the bills and for food.

End it.

Cardiganoutsidein · 22/09/2024 12:24

Blobblobblob · 22/09/2024 10:31

What the actual fuck did I just read?

He wants the house perfect but won't lift a finger?

Get rid of this controlling, misogynistic cunt.

That is all.

Agree.

this is one of the most awful things I’ve read on here.

he is abusive, controlling and manipulative.

lets break this down:

you pay for all bills and food
you do all the cleaning
you work 30 hours a week (3/4 time)

he expects you to do everything
he never cleans or tidies
he doesn’t pay any bills

i know he is making you question yourself, but please know this is not right.

his threat to move out of if you didn’t keep the home immaculate is chilling. He is basically making you his slave.

Catoo · 22/09/2024 12:25

If this is real….

Revisit the chat you had OP.

Sit him down, tell him you want him to move into that shared accommodation place after all (by the way he will hate that if he hates mess, and I bet he had no intention of going).

And if he says no, drive him out by letting mess and clutter build up. Don’t wash his pots.

Are you in rented accommodation? Is it in your name?

Sounds like you have a good job. You and DC will be fine without him and in time you may meet a man who is a real partner in life.

💐

BMW6 · 22/09/2024 13:10

WTF

This CANNOT be real surely? No-one would pay all the bills, buy all the food, and willingly be a slave to such a tremendous, gold plated, grade A cunt?

Too ridiculous for words.

Searchingforsomething2 · 22/09/2024 18:59

Hi all,
thank you for your support and your words of guidance! So the reason I don’t want to leave is I still want to be with him because when everything is good it’s really good. I also don’t want my child to have a broken home like I did. I couldn’t be without my child for a whole weekend and he’s never changed a nappy or given them a bath, so how would it work? It’s looking like maybe I’m blinded as everyone says to let him go, I’m going to try and talk to him tomorrow and I’ll see how it goes. Thank you everyone 😊

OP posts:
TheShellBeach · 22/09/2024 19:02

Claire2361 · 22/09/2024 12:15

End it.

There was no need to quote the whole OP!

TwistedWonder · 22/09/2024 19:03

Ok OP so look at it this way. You’re happy for your daughter to grow up in an abusive household being taught from birth that women are worthless humans only here to cook clean and bankroll cocklodging men and that she will take that into her adult relationships ending up with men who treat her like absolute shit.

And you see that as a positive?

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