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How do you know when it's time to call it quits?

27 replies

DAISYBELLAxx · 12/09/2024 19:25

Hi everyone.

I am 28 and have been with my partner (30) for 2.5 years. We live in his flat which is currently up for sale as we were looking to buy a place together.

Admittedly, our relationship began quite quickly after my previous one (8 years with my ex, found out he cheated, had to sell the house we had together).

The relationship started well. He made me feel worthy and we had lots of fun, which was a great distraction from the darkness going on in my head at the time. He helped me through a lot emotionally and stood by my side throughout everything I suffered.

However, as the relationship took it's course, I noticed that it became like a roller coaster (up and down and never steady).

I feel that he can be incredibly stubborn and at times hot headed.

I am staying at my parents this week dog sitting, and was due to pick him up this evening from an event he is attending. This morning I called and asked what time the event finished, so that I knew when to leave so that I could pick him up. He was then due to stay at my parents with me (it has been a very lonely week). He became snappy (huffing) and said something along the lines of "I don't know - you always ask silly questions - this isnt 120 questions"

I responded by telling him not to talk to me that way (with that tone) and reminded him that me picking him up was me doing him a favour. He then responded with something along the lines of "fine, don't pick me up and I won't come to stay - how about that?"

The argument just estated from there. I told him how hurt I get by his tone of voice and the way he speaks to me and that I feel I am owed an apology. To which he says "you snapped at me back, so you're no better off". He then said that he apologises for the "part he had to play" in the situation.

I questioned him asking which part I possibly had to play? I shared with him that I feel sad that he never seems to take full accountability and twists things so that I end up apologising. Then he deflects with "everything can't always be my fault"

I was at work by this point (I am a teacher) and grew incredibly frustrated with him on the phone. He said that I just want someone to apologise when I click my fingers and that if that's what I want then maybe he isn't the man for me.

I read this as him basically telling me "I am not going to change or take accountability for my actions, so like it or lump it." To which I said that I couldn't do this anymore and that it is over.

I know this isn't right on my part, but I say this to him a lot because I feel boxed into a corner with nowhere to go. I so desperately want him to change and want this to work. Even though our relationship can be so toxic, I still love him more than anything and can't see life without him.

... I know this says a lot about me. And if it were a friend, I would advise them to leave. It really isn't easy - I've been heartbroken before and it took me so long to rebuild life again with this person, I don't know what I would do if I were back to square one on my own again.

He has gone to his event and we have not spoken since. I am not picking him up and he is not staying at my parents. I just don't know where to go from here.

I'm so scared to lose him, but do not want to lose myself in the process of being with him.

OP posts:
Parkmybentley · 12/09/2024 19:29

Tbh it sounds a bit suffocating - maybe he didn't want picking up and didn't want to stay at your parents. I for one definitely would never want to stay at my ILs!! Unless I had no place of my own!

Maybe you both want different things - but if you still think it's worth trying to save it, back off and give him space. Spend time apart doing your own thing. The idea being he will miss you and initiate plans with you. If he doesn't then there is your answer..

Mrsttcno1 · 12/09/2024 19:29

Gently OP this is a toxic relationship all round now, and you need to just walk away while it is easy (practically) to do so- no joint mortgage, no marriage, no kids, to joint finances. It’s not healthy for him to behave that way, and it’s not healthy for you to tell him the relationship is over every time you have these arguments.

Howdull · 12/09/2024 19:30

When was the last time he brought you a bunch of flowers for no reason?

TheShellBeach · 12/09/2024 19:32

Have either of you got any children?

DAISYBELLAxx · 12/09/2024 19:49

We do not have children.

Admittedly I know this is a toxic relationship and one I frequently doubt. But at the same time, I love this man so much. I get very attached to people and the other side of his personality is caring and he genuinely takes an interest in my life and listens to me for hours when I have struggled.

I go through periods of feeling safe with him during the ups of our relationship, but so unstable in the downs.

I equally do not want to put my family through this again. When I am hurting, they hurt too. I don't know if I could do that again, move back home again for the second time after another relationship failing. I am broken.

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DAISYBELLAxx · 12/09/2024 19:51

I am also feeling this very strange emotion deep in my stomach. It is a very deep sadness where I will cry for a bit and then stop and can't cry. I have never felt this low.

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TheShellBeach · 12/09/2024 19:52

It's better to move back home after a toxic relationship ends, than to continue with it.

You're worth more than this.

You deserve the chance to meet the right man, in the fullness of time. That cannot happen while you're tied down with this man. Don't settle for second best, OP.

DAISYBELLAxx · 12/09/2024 19:53

It's very hard too as he is one to roll with the punches of life. Not much phases him. If I leave, I know he will get over it relatively quickly. I am not as strong. It hurts.

OP posts:
TheShellBeach · 12/09/2024 19:54

DAISYBELLAxx · 12/09/2024 19:51

I am also feeling this very strange emotion deep in my stomach. It is a very deep sadness where I will cry for a bit and then stop and can't cry. I have never felt this low.

It may help you to get therapy and counselling to get to grips with these emotions.

Medication may also be of use. Can you go and see your doctor?

DAISYBELLAxx · 12/09/2024 19:57

@TheShellBeach Thank you. I am not perfect and probably still hold trauma from the past relationship which projects onto my current partner. I have put him through some tests and struggles.

But I equally know that I am worth more than how he speaks to me. Sometimes it can be so bad that when I am on a phone call with him around my family, I turn the volume down so that they can't hear. Our relationship is so unpredictable.

I also feel that 28 may be too late for me. I desperately want children in the next couple of years. It is all I have ever wanted, and I can't help but feel that the opportunity is slipping away from me if I have to start over again from scratch.

What is wrong with me?! 😞

OP posts:
TheShellBeach · 12/09/2024 19:57

If I leave, I know he will get over it relatively quickly

That sounds like such a hard thing for you, a real kick in the teeth - like you're worth so little to him that he'll hardly notice if you're no longer in his life.
He sounds very superficial, not to mention argumentative and difficult.

DAISYBELLAxx · 12/09/2024 19:59

I think I suppress these feelings a lot of the time. Tell myself I am making a big deal of everything and maybe over reacting.

I am struggling to know what is right anymore. I feel so confused.

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TheShellBeach · 12/09/2024 20:01

Oh OP I do feel for you.

I assure you it's better not to have children with a man who has so little regard for you. Any children would see your damaged relationship as they grew up.
That would not be healthy for them.

Also - 28 isn't anywhere near the age where a woman needs to worry about declining fertility. You've got plenty of time.

Pictures50 · 12/09/2024 20:02

He is toxic and nasty and staying because you think you won't find better is so dangerous.

This is not a good man.
He certainly doesn't love you.
Having children with him, when you know well he is nasty and dismissive would be spectrum selfish.

You think you will upset your parents moving home now?

How about how they will feel when you arrive atvtheir door with two crying children abused and bullied because you didn't want to be brave today.

This relationship is dead.
You can accept that and heal, or you can limp on, make your life worse, inflict this awful man on children and bitterly bitterly regret your life choices.

Get out while you can.

Its over.

LifeExperience · 12/09/2024 20:04

From your OP: " I so desperately want him to change..."

Never, never, never go into or stay in a relationship with the idea that you will be able to change him. You won't. Men,once past puberty, DO NOT CHANGE from who they essentially are, and he has shown you who he is.

Ihaveoflate · 12/09/2024 20:04

This is not the kind of relationship you should consider bringing children into. They test even the strongest of partnerships and expose cracks you didn't even know were there.

At 28 you are so very young. Please don't settle for this - it won't last anyway by the sounds of it.

TheShellBeach · 12/09/2024 20:06

I so desperately want him to change and want this to work

If the only way it'll work is if he changes (which he absolutely won't) then there is no hope, is there.

Accept that he doesn't treat you like you're the love of his life, and therefore you need to call quits on this.

Switcher · 12/09/2024 20:07

I would move on. It's very hard because these personalities are weirdly magnetic, but it's not real. They're small, damaged people. You will find someone better.. spend some time alone, focus on hobbies, friends, work for a while. When you're self sufficient you'll find someone who wants to be with you for the right reasons.

DAISYBELLAxx · 12/09/2024 20:12

Thank you all for your advice.

It's confusing because as bad as things get, we just can't bring ourselves to properly end it with eachother.

After we fall out and the toxicity dies down, we sit and talk for hours about things we can try to improve us as a couple, we listen to eachother, hold hands and cry together.

But then we are back to square one again. It's not easy to be with him, but it's not easy to be without him.

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Balaclava1000 · 12/09/2024 20:17

If you want to have kids, don't waste any more time with this man.

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/09/2024 20:22

DAISYBELLAxx · 12/09/2024 19:57

@TheShellBeach Thank you. I am not perfect and probably still hold trauma from the past relationship which projects onto my current partner. I have put him through some tests and struggles.

But I equally know that I am worth more than how he speaks to me. Sometimes it can be so bad that when I am on a phone call with him around my family, I turn the volume down so that they can't hear. Our relationship is so unpredictable.

I also feel that 28 may be too late for me. I desperately want children in the next couple of years. It is all I have ever wanted, and I can't help but feel that the opportunity is slipping away from me if I have to start over again from scratch.

What is wrong with me?! 😞

You can choose this man for yourself, but you cannot choose him for a father to children. Anger and sulking are poison to children. They damage them.

Leave. You may or may not have time to have kids, I did well after your age. But you cannot choose this man for innocent children.

TammyJones · 12/09/2024 20:42

He sounds like a drama queen.
Be aware that you are not hooked on drama too.
Don't do this dance.
Therapy would help you unpick unhealthy habits.

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/09/2024 20:52

TammyJones · 12/09/2024 20:42

He sounds like a drama queen.
Be aware that you are not hooked on drama too.
Don't do this dance.
Therapy would help you unpick unhealthy habits.

Drama =/= passion =/= love.

Many people do not understand this.

toffeeteacake · 12/09/2024 20:53

Spend some time alone. Get some therapy. Don’t let this be your life.

stonedaisy · 12/09/2024 21:00

I think you would be mental to buy a house with this guy at the moment but on the other hand it doesn't seem like the relationship is fully done. Why don't you rent somewhere or even live apart and still date for 6 months / a year and if things don't improve you have your answer. But don't tie yourself in financially

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