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OLD - men who don't ask questions...

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Rosiecidar · 11/09/2024 18:57

Simply the title. On Bumble so I have to make the first contact, I will say hello and ask a question relating to their profile or a picture....the guy responds but doesn't ask a question back, so I will ask another question on the back of an answer then another reply.
There seems a lot of guys who don't seem to show any interest in me but gush about their trip/hobby/sport. Any ideas, I have literally sent messages saying " anything you'd like to know about me ?"
Is this a red flag as I tend to give up on them.

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Healingsfall · 12/09/2024 08:23

When I told one guy I'd been single for 3 years he said "oh sorry to hear that." 🤨 What an odd response. I replied "no it's been great! Would really be single than settle for a nobhead."

BlastedPimples · 12/09/2024 08:29

Excellent reply

IncessantNameChanger · 12/09/2024 09:09

Honest00lad · 11/09/2024 21:16

If they don't know how a conversation works then good luck having a relationship with them!

This. Imagine never being asked anything about yourself ever again. I know they could bad socail skills, or anxiety or something else but that's not going to change. If you want someone to show a genuine interest and deep conversation then don't look for men who just bang on about their own topic. It's like think I don't man who smokes but hanging around to see if they really smoke.

Ask a question, if they don't answer ask again then I'd give up. Aren't they supposed to be trying for a good first impression? Yet from the off not really listening.

needingadviceandthoughts · 12/09/2024 09:15

To cheer you up

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TwistedWonder · 12/09/2024 09:16

Solotwo · 12/09/2024 08:12

Throughout my life I have found this is the same with men in general whether online or not. They are much more interested in themselves than they are in you. My ex would zone out when I was talking to him about something important to me.

To quote Shirley Valentine

They feel they have to take over the conversation. I mean, I mean with most fellas if you say something like, like my favorite season's autumn, they go oh, oh, my favorite season's spring and then you've got 10 minutes of them talkin' about why they like spring and you weren't talkin' about spring, you were talkin' about autumn. So what do you do? You talk about what they want to talk about. Or you don't talk at all. Or you wind up talking to yourself.

Rosiecidar · 12/09/2024 10:31

I wondered if it was Bumble, as the only way to start a conversation is for the woman to make the first move...I get that it's easy to answer one question in a closed way "yes that picture was taken in Greece last Summer" but it's every question with some guys.
I actually find I get more dates on Tinder where I never make the first contact.

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TwistedWonder · 12/09/2024 10:33

Rosiecidar · 12/09/2024 10:31

I wondered if it was Bumble, as the only way to start a conversation is for the woman to make the first move...I get that it's easy to answer one question in a closed way "yes that picture was taken in Greece last Summer" but it's every question with some guys.
I actually find I get more dates on Tinder where I never make the first contact.

Men can actually send the first message now but only if you match but I’m not sure many of them realise that.

Rosiecidar · 12/09/2024 11:42

TwistedWonder · 12/09/2024 10:33

Men can actually send the first message now but only if you match but I’m not sure many of them realise that.

I thought it was something that Bumble was considering but didn't actually implement..

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TwistedWonder · 12/09/2024 11:54

Rosiecidar · 12/09/2024 11:42

I thought it was something that Bumble was considering but didn't actually implement..

It’s been in place a couple of months I believe. I’ve certainly had a few messages from men - none of them any good though 😂

Rosiecidar · 12/09/2024 12:01

TwistedWonder · 12/09/2024 11:54

It’s been in place a couple of months I believe. I’ve certainly had a few messages from men - none of them any good though 😂

That extract above is straight off the website so if it's out of date it would explain why few men are messaging!

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Londonguy84 · 12/09/2024 12:13

Just to say....Woman are just as bad!

Nearly all of my opening Messages ( to me ) are hi, or hey. I then write a long engaging message back and I'll more often than not get a one or two word reply.

Rosiecidar · 12/09/2024 12:26

@Londonguy84 not sure woman are as bad...but to be fair I get very few messages that say just Hi and I wouldn't bother replying to those.

What I am saying is that I get quite long, interesting messages and I reply asking a question and then get another message back but not asking me anything...men just seem to be interested in telling me their opinions without engaging.

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Waterboatlass · 12/09/2024 12:27

I don't think it matters what the opening message is as long as it's polite, even'hi'. People have different experiences and get jaded and want to check there's someone there before getting into it. It's if someone doesn't get into a reciprocal and engaging conversation after you respond it is never a good sign. I'd give them a couple of messages then leave it if they aren't curious about you. If they don't know how conversation works there's nothing you can do at this age.

SmokeyToo · 12/09/2024 12:48

TwistedWonder · 12/09/2024 09:16

To quote Shirley Valentine

They feel they have to take over the conversation. I mean, I mean with most fellas if you say something like, like my favorite season's autumn, they go oh, oh, my favorite season's spring and then you've got 10 minutes of them talkin' about why they like spring and you weren't talkin' about spring, you were talkin' about autumn. So what do you do? You talk about what they want to talk about. Or you don't talk at all. Or you wind up talking to yourself.

Thank you for this! The wisdom of Shirley Valentine is timeless. I just LOVE that movie/play!

Musicaltheatremum · 12/09/2024 13:49

Solotwo · 12/09/2024 08:12

Throughout my life I have found this is the same with men in general whether online or not. They are much more interested in themselves than they are in you. My ex would zone out when I was talking to him about something important to me.

My husband and son say women are just the same. Trouble is some people on dating sites just don't have any social skills which is why some of them ate there. My husband said I was a breath of fresh air as I asked questions and messaged like a normal person.

TwistedWonder · 12/09/2024 13:55

SmokeyToo · 12/09/2024 12:48

Thank you for this! The wisdom of Shirley Valentine is timeless. I just LOVE that movie/play!

It’s a great movie and I find the older I get, the more I identify.

I went to Santorini earlier in the year and I totally felt like I could make my home there and live in peace

SmokeyToo · 12/09/2024 14:10

TwistedWonder · 12/09/2024 13:55

It’s a great movie and I find the older I get, the more I identify.

I went to Santorini earlier in the year and I totally felt like I could make my home there and live in peace

I'm jealous - I haven't been able to get to Greece as yet, but it's been my dream destination since I was a teenager (I'm now 54). If I didn't have close family here, I'd pack up and go in a heartbeat!

DadJoke · 12/09/2024 14:16

I have one dickhead acquaintance who used ChatGPT to respond - lots of first dates, no second dates.

PinotPony · 12/09/2024 14:39

I've been reading Caitlin Morgan's book What About Men. Interesting analysis of why men like to exchange facts during conversation rather than talk about emotions or feelings.

I wonder if that's the issue with OLD... perhaps try talking about the gears on your bicycle or where you get your car MOT'd..!

Rosiecidar · 12/09/2024 14:54

DadJoke · 12/09/2024 14:16

I have one dickhead acquaintance who used ChatGPT to respond - lots of first dates, no second dates.

I think I have had an AI response it ended " do I sound like your dream man ?" -

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TwistedWonder · 12/09/2024 14:59

Rosiecidar · 12/09/2024 14:54

I think I have had an AI response it ended " do I sound like your dream man ?" -

I had one like that. Every time I tired to start an actual conversation he just replied ‘what’s your perfect man’ or ‘do you like tall men with shaved heads’ (like him)

I just said to him look I’m not having an inane Q&A session. If you want proper conversation it’s go from there.

He sent me a 👍and then ‘do you own your own place’

Unmatched

Missamyp · 12/09/2024 15:53

The idea is you're meant to arrange a date quickly. Not a-z life story via a clunky app. Most men seem devoid of much lead on from a Hi. Many seem better in person.
DP was a veritable chatterbox and still is.

arethereanyleftatall · 12/09/2024 16:02

To present the other side.

When you've been on OLD a while, and have chatted to probably hundreds of people, a Q&A session is extremely dull.

I probably wouldn't respond to something like 'what do you do for a job?' Or 'Oh that photo is lovely, where is it taken?' Because it's probably been asked a hundred times before and it's just dull.

I much preferred random nothing ness as a way of getting to know someone, finding out their humour etc

That's not to say I don't engage, and there isn't back and forth; but Q&A?- no thanks.

I haven't been on for a while so can't quite remember but the blokes I most enjoyed were where we straight in to a completely random conversation about elephants or biscuits or whatever.

tothelefttotheleft · 12/09/2024 16:13

Londonguy84 · 12/09/2024 12:13

Just to say....Woman are just as bad!

Nearly all of my opening Messages ( to me ) are hi, or hey. I then write a long engaging message back and I'll more often than not get a one or two word reply.

Perhaps your second message is too long?

Maybe just a few chatty lines instead?

tothelefttotheleft · 12/09/2024 16:14

PinotPony · 12/09/2024 14:39

I've been reading Caitlin Morgan's book What About Men. Interesting analysis of why men like to exchange facts during conversation rather than talk about emotions or feelings.

I wonder if that's the issue with OLD... perhaps try talking about the gears on your bicycle or where you get your car MOT'd..!

It doesn't have to be about emotions and feelings to have a reciprocal conversation.

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