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Tips on dealing with a (low level) gaslighter

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Remmy123 · 07/09/2024 07:51

My husband who I have been with for 20 odd years over the past few years has changed.

everyone thinks he is great he is very sociable helpful etc but he isn't to me

he calls me a gaslighter but below is a scenario of many:

last night sitting with our children having dinner. Husband has been working on a v stressful project (made him v touchy stressed)

he said 'right who is going to ask me about my day? I started the first phase of the project'

i say ' thank god for that'

he says 'you are so rude'

I say that's not rude I mean it's been a long time coming. Tell me more

he reluctantly tells me more about this project - it's in IT so I've no fecking clue what it means (that annoys him)

kids leave the room I ask why he thought I was rude he says 'you said thank god for that you're just thinking about yourself because you say this project has made me like a different person' you only ask me more about the project because you realised you didn't sound nice then stormed up to our room. He also mimicked me in a completely different tone.

I followed and said that's your problem that you have created a whole different scenario based on 4 words I said. - he called me a gaslighter

the evening before I asked him how much he had on a c card because we had been paying £200 a month for 5 years - he got so defensive said I was controlling I'm also controlling because I look in the shopping bags when he comes home from Tesco

I am v organised and orderly and he isn't

last might he said 'oh you think you are such a saint don't you' I say well when have I ever called you names or flown of the handle and made up fake scenarios.

he then accused me of swearing at him in front of the kids in the past - I've never done this so I asked for an example and he said 'well you have' and stormed off. No examples given. I said I really think I'm losing my marbles because I can't remember can you please think of an example? I might have to see a doctor I'm worried about my memory. He said 'well maybe you do because you have'

I pulled him aside and said - don't you ever call me a gaslighter again because that is just what you have done to me that is a clear example of gaslighting.

i know everyone wiill say leave but at the moment it's financiallly hard I've got x3 kids

how do I deal with a gaslighter in the meantime.

im gutted I've ended up with someone like this.

Thanks

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DiscoinFrisco · 08/09/2024 09:00

These examples sound really petty to be honest especially the first one.

Remmy123 · 08/09/2024 09:11

DiscoinFrisco · 08/09/2024 09:00

These examples sound really petty to be honest especially the first one.

I agree I find them petty and pathetic but it's more or less every few days now it's like - here we go again circling in my mind each time ... trying different tactics ignore / challenge / cry

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PaillettenBedeckt · 08/09/2024 12:15

Remmy123 · 08/09/2024 08:55

Thanks for your reply.

he comes from a family of Irish catholics - his mother is very opinionated and controlling. They never opened up about thier feelings, he pretends he goes to church to keep her happy etc a stiff upper lip at all times etc - I do think this is half his battle

i wouid like him just to to take my word for it, if I didn't mean it in that way then that's the fact of it. Not start stomping and sulking.

I've had lots of family issues and big problems , he has been in a bubble where everything is perfect no worries like parents divorcing etc

I was in a household with an abusive alcoholic father to my mum always huge arguments me feeling unsafe and insecure

I really thought I'd married a good egg but I feel similar to how I felt as a child.

also should have mentioned in my original post that he struggles to communicate without saying shut up / fuck off / or storming off

I really don't like the sound of this. I can understand the occasional fuck off in a long relationship, but not if it's frequent/happening every time you argue/said with true casual contempt.

I'm a bit worried people are fixating on these being seemingly small examples and telling you to stop antagonising him. Some men love to twist their partners in knots by being petty over seemingly trivial matters. You should not have to spend your life trying not to antagonise an angry man.

Would you consider reading a book on abuse and see if any of it rings a bell for you? It's free online. It's called Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft. If you Google that, you should find a link for a free PDF of it.

PrincessofWells · 07/10/2024 21:32

mrsm43s · 07/09/2024 16:46

Just let it go,don't follow him around, that is goading him and escalating the problem. He's making it clear by walking away that he doesn't want to continue the conversation. Respect that.

If something further needs to be said (which it probably doesn't most of the time), then have a calm conversation later on when everyone has had some time out and you can focus on the actual issue not the emotion.

It sounds like you're following after him, escalating the issue, determined to have the last word. I would be livid if someone followed me around the house arguing with me when it was clear I needed time out. He is trying to de-escalate the situation by walking away, and you are escalating it by following around after him.

Actually what her husband is doing by walking away is stonewalling, which is another abusive tactic, along with the gaslighting.

Remmy123 · 16/10/2024 21:28

PrincessofWells · 07/10/2024 21:32

Actually what her husband is doing by walking away is stonewalling, which is another abusive tactic, along with the gaslighting.

Yes it is I actually told him this is what he was doing!

I think DH really struggles to manage his stress etc and takes it all out on me

lately he has been nice and it all coincides with work stress but in a couple of weeks time it will go back to being g shit again as it never lasts long!

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