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I have a friend who often tells me that I'm making our friendship complicated

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TheLemonPeer · 25/08/2024 17:43

I have a friend (32M) who often tells me that I'm (34F)making our friendship complicated whenever I ask him to clarify his vague comments or point out how his words don't match his actions.

HERE IT GOES

The other day he said out of nowhere he wanted to call and or hangout that night to talk after about over a month of him asking for physical distance, but I couldn’t because I had a very important meeting, so instead he briefly texts me about what’s going on with him, one of his friends from college, (funny thing is he never mentioned about any of his other friends, I’ve never heard of them, he’s told me once that he burn bridges a lot for no reason and that he’s trying to change that bad habit) then proceeds to tell me that everyone who knew the friend that died now wants to reach out to him and get together, but he sounded completely disdained by the sound of it, he then lets me know he was going through a lot, and the passing of his friend affected him, I honestly don’t know in what way because he didn’t even mention how close he was to the person or how it was affecting him, he just said it makes him look at mental health different but it made no sense because when I asked him how differently he didn’t even know……

Okay remember when I said he said he was going through a lot, well a few days ago he said he got into a minor car accident again (one was as recent as May was him being a jerk not letting another car in the lane coming out of a gas station and so his jeep side step thing ended up damaging the side of the persons car, person got out and threatened him, they called their people and the guy ended up extorting $500 from him rather than going thru insurance) being aggressive on the road, he almost fought someone on the way picking up his kid from daycare last Thursday , how he almost threw coffee on someone he was arguing with earlier in the morning, then he got into it with his father and cousin he’s currently living with. He said everyone around him is trying to fuck him but I believe I got the taste of the real him that he shows everyone and to why he burn bridges. So because he was going through all of this he wanted to talk and catch up and talk.

Now me thinking he was calling to talk about this to vent and talk about his friend and how he’s feeling, as that’s what friends do and to ask for advice …. NO … that wasn’t the case here … he called the next day saying how he was having fun, and never knew that all the chaos and being aggressive could be so fun, but just the other day said he was going thru a lot of crap. He was goin on and on and he tells me how incredible I am, and how he appreciates my patience with him and that I’m like a best friend, then ask me how I’ve been, let me first say that me and him had a situation where he had hurt me and it devastated me, he apologized but I felt it was half ass, I’m a person that’s very deep so when he ask how I’ve been, I’m updating him that I look at the pain (he caused) differently now, it was something I never felt before but I’m a believer of everything happens for a reason to help people in life to grow and learn, before I could finish my sentence he cut me off and say “oh no you’re getting all in this emotional stuff, I’m gonna let you go, I gotta go eat, I just got home and I’m in the middle of the street and I just got home from a long day.” I would thought with common sense he would’ve gotten home and take care of himself, shower and eat and then call me instead of calling me just to rush me off the phone as if I WAS BOTHERING HIM. I WAS SO SHOCKED of this behavior! I said “hold on why are u being like that” his response was “oh you’re talking about this and you’re upset so I’m
Going to let you cool off” …. I was nowhere near upset, I was doing work for my business by the way on the computer so he wasn’t the only
One who was taking time to speak over the phone, I was in the middle of marketing and setting up new ads for new products while checking emails and reaching out to suppliers and my models, when he called me. He asked me a question and I’m answering it with encouragement especially since his friend passed away, letting him know not all pain is meant to be bad and break you down but to build you up. This dude STRAIGHT up cut me off and was telling me that I’m upset and he’s going to give me time To cool Off, and rush me off the phone. Like who DOES THAT? I was so turned off I also said goodbye kindly.

I couldn’t let that slide feeling disrespected so I sent him a voice note the next day stating to him how I won’t put up with that kind of rude behavior. He listened to it and didn’t respond, cool, I wasn’t mean about it or anything in the note I just said that what he did was rude and I won’t tolerate it. He never responded. I got a phone call from another good friend who’s running a charity for Back To School, long story short, her and her hubby started this since 2021, she called me to see if I know of anyone who needs help with school supplies, babysitter, tutoring and help with the cost of daycare. Well since my guy friend he said he was looking for daycare and they’re so expensive and he’s having issues with how expensive they are. I put him on the list of one of the persons to call to send out to this charity and plus whoever I invited were going to get bonuses like shoes and apparel for kids. I called my guy friend and immediately before even saying anything he once again jumped to conclusion telling me what he’s currently doing, okay cool, I asked him if he heard my voice note and told him not to feel like I’m criticizing him or attacking him but what he did was just foul, and I want no animosity or resentment towards him so I express how that made me feel, he said that he was still processing it because it was intense …. (What’s intense about telling you that you’re rude and need to cut that out or else you’ll lose me as a friend?)

Anyway I told him I’m inviting friends to a free event. All of a sudden the physical distancing is back in effect, he didn’t even let me explain what the event was for or even ABOUT, he said “ you should just invite someone else” I’m like what? Then I went about to ask him what is this physical distancing about? He said, “so it doesn’t make anything complicated when he peruse other interests (like girls)” I’m like wtf dude I’m not attracted to you like that! “Finally I now understand what you meant by it the first time because you were never clear on why you kept on doing this, first you said you do it because sometimes you get into your emotions and want to be alone and push people Away, and now it’s to peruse women and not making things complicated” PLEASE REMEMBER THAT HE CALLED ME WEDNESDAY NIGHT ASKING TO HANG OUT, DRIVE AROUND AND SMOKE TOGETHER. Anywho before I could even tell him about the event and let him know that I WASNT GOING TO BE THERE. This man started talking over me aggressively and then hung up on me! All because I call him out on him backtracking and changing his story, that’s when he tells me that I’m making this friendship complicated and if that’s what I’m going to do don’t ever contact him again.

I’m feeling exhausted and confused by his behavior. While I’ve tried to be patient, I’m starting to think he might have deeper issues, possibly ASPD or BPD. I don't know what to do anymore and am questioning whether I did something wrong.

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IKnowAristotle · 25/08/2024 17:49

that’s when he tells me that I’m making this friendship complicated and if that’s what I’m going to do don’t ever contact him again.

#teamdontevercontacthimagain

wizzywig · 25/08/2024 17:54

Your post was exhausting to read. It must be worse to live it. Ditch him

SauviGone · 25/08/2024 17:54

I couldn’t be arsed reading it all but you must love the drama, otherwise you’d have dropped this pompous self absorbed bellend ages ago.

Hatty65 · 25/08/2024 18:00

I'm with the others. Just drop this guy. You aren't friends.

It's all far too exhausting and ridiculous.

TheLemonPeer · 25/08/2024 18:01

IKnowAristotle · 25/08/2024 17:49

that’s when he tells me that I’m making this friendship complicated and if that’s what I’m going to do don’t ever contact him again.

#teamdontevercontacthimagain

Agree. Already on that.

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TheLemonPeer · 25/08/2024 18:02

wizzywig · 25/08/2024 17:54

Your post was exhausting to read. It must be worse to live it. Ditch him

It was exhausting to write and even to copy and paste 😭 I cut off all contact after that disgusting engagement of being hung up on.

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Purplecatshopaholic · 25/08/2024 18:03

Jeezo. Too. Much. Drama. Dont ever contact him again and block and move on, he’s a dick.

Lougle · 25/08/2024 18:04

I stopped reading and I never do that. This is way too stressful for you.

TheLemonPeer · 25/08/2024 18:08

SauviGone · 25/08/2024 17:54

I couldn’t be arsed reading it all but you must love the drama, otherwise you’d have dropped this pompous self absorbed bellend ages ago.

Ages no, this started popping up the moment his birthday came around which was in July. I hate drama, I stay miles away from
it, I love peace and anyone else who wishes for peace, it’s the reason WE BECAME FRIENDS IN THE FIRST PLACE. But I just never been thru something like this before and was wondering if I did something wrong like being honest about how someone’s behavior making me feel like crap. **Dropping this self-absorbed pompous jerk.

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PayYourselfFirst · 25/08/2024 18:12

This is the push/ pull dynamic, a manipulation technique used by abusers
Sounds way too head wrecking, I think you are correct about BPD /ASPD , the fights etc
Ditch

NowyouhaveDunnett · 25/08/2024 18:20

Why would you want to be friends with this total dickhead?

Road rage, fighting, friends all drop him-now you know why. He's an arsehole.

newbeggins · 25/08/2024 18:22

You can find nicer friends than this.

Spend your time doing that instead of dealing with him.

Dery · 25/08/2024 18:29

Another here who couldn’t get through your post. He sounds relentlessly demanding and self-absorbed and desperately tedious. Yep - cut him loose. No-one needs to deal with this kind of BS.

suburberphobe · 25/08/2024 18:35

I hate drama

Your OP says otherwise. Much too much to read.

Just drop him.

<And breathe>

TheLemonPeer · 25/08/2024 18:37

NowyouhaveDunnett · 25/08/2024 18:20

Why would you want to be friends with this total dickhead?

Road rage, fighting, friends all drop him-now you know why. He's an arsehole.

I never knew all of this until recently!!! 🥹I was honestly frightened but kept my cool thinking hers having a bad day. Nope, the phone calls
the last few days showed his true colors.

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DaftyLass · 25/08/2024 18:39

You like to pick things apart to understand them, he doesn't
You want acknowledgement, he isn't going to give it
You want to improve things, he doesn't want to put in that emotional effort

See the pattern?

MolkosTeenageAngst · 25/08/2024 18:44

You sound hard work. He sounds hard work. Just distance yourself from him, friendship isn’t supposed to be this much drama.

Theleaveswillbefalling · 25/08/2024 18:46

I only got past the first sentences and then gave it. He is making things far tol complicated and is needy. Time to end the friendship.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 25/08/2024 18:47

He wants a pair of ears to vent to. He has no interest in hearing anything you have to say.
Coupled with his comments about how he is angry with everyone and his rudeness to you, he sounds like a boring attention-seeking pain in the ar**.
Why bother?

Theleaveswillbefalling · 25/08/2024 18:48

TheLemonPeer · 25/08/2024 18:02

It was exhausting to write and even to copy and paste 😭 I cut off all contact after that disgusting engagement of being hung up on.

Then why post about it? Just move on witj your life.

Webbymeister · 25/08/2024 18:49

Too long didn’t read, if a friendship is this hard then bin it off

Webbymeister · 25/08/2024 18:49

“Drive around and smoke together”

mate you need some interests

TheLemonPeer · 25/08/2024 19:09

DaftyLass · 25/08/2024 18:39

You like to pick things apart to understand them, he doesn't
You want acknowledgement, he isn't going to give it
You want to improve things, he doesn't want to put in that emotional effort

See the pattern?

Absolutely, that very same night then his reaction when I addressed his behavior. Only to repeat it the following day (yesterday) I’m not use to crap like this. That did it for me. I don’t have a teenager and I shouldn’t be feeling like I have one.

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TheLemonPeer · 25/08/2024 19:14

Webbymeister · 25/08/2024 18:49

“Drive around and smoke together”

mate you need some interests

Mate I have two businesses that I run. I barely have time to smoke yet along go out and have a drink. I can buy an 8th that lasts me an entire month and a half, so don’t go judging on things you know nothing about. He on the other hand smokes religiously. I can’t do that. I like to be functional. And he has never ever asked me to do that before which was kinda odd.

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Beautiful3 · 25/08/2024 19:15

You have only yourself to blame,if you carry on being open to being used. Block him and never talk to him again. He's told you candidly, how much he enjoys chaos. Do not allow it into your life. You're in control of your own life, so make good decisions.