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I have a friend who often tells me that I'm making our friendship complicated

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TheLemonPeer · 25/08/2024 17:43

I have a friend (32M) who often tells me that I'm (34F)making our friendship complicated whenever I ask him to clarify his vague comments or point out how his words don't match his actions.

HERE IT GOES

The other day he said out of nowhere he wanted to call and or hangout that night to talk after about over a month of him asking for physical distance, but I couldn’t because I had a very important meeting, so instead he briefly texts me about what’s going on with him, one of his friends from college, (funny thing is he never mentioned about any of his other friends, I’ve never heard of them, he’s told me once that he burn bridges a lot for no reason and that he’s trying to change that bad habit) then proceeds to tell me that everyone who knew the friend that died now wants to reach out to him and get together, but he sounded completely disdained by the sound of it, he then lets me know he was going through a lot, and the passing of his friend affected him, I honestly don’t know in what way because he didn’t even mention how close he was to the person or how it was affecting him, he just said it makes him look at mental health different but it made no sense because when I asked him how differently he didn’t even know……

Okay remember when I said he said he was going through a lot, well a few days ago he said he got into a minor car accident again (one was as recent as May was him being a jerk not letting another car in the lane coming out of a gas station and so his jeep side step thing ended up damaging the side of the persons car, person got out and threatened him, they called their people and the guy ended up extorting $500 from him rather than going thru insurance) being aggressive on the road, he almost fought someone on the way picking up his kid from daycare last Thursday , how he almost threw coffee on someone he was arguing with earlier in the morning, then he got into it with his father and cousin he’s currently living with. He said everyone around him is trying to fuck him but I believe I got the taste of the real him that he shows everyone and to why he burn bridges. So because he was going through all of this he wanted to talk and catch up and talk.

Now me thinking he was calling to talk about this to vent and talk about his friend and how he’s feeling, as that’s what friends do and to ask for advice …. NO … that wasn’t the case here … he called the next day saying how he was having fun, and never knew that all the chaos and being aggressive could be so fun, but just the other day said he was going thru a lot of crap. He was goin on and on and he tells me how incredible I am, and how he appreciates my patience with him and that I’m like a best friend, then ask me how I’ve been, let me first say that me and him had a situation where he had hurt me and it devastated me, he apologized but I felt it was half ass, I’m a person that’s very deep so when he ask how I’ve been, I’m updating him that I look at the pain (he caused) differently now, it was something I never felt before but I’m a believer of everything happens for a reason to help people in life to grow and learn, before I could finish my sentence he cut me off and say “oh no you’re getting all in this emotional stuff, I’m gonna let you go, I gotta go eat, I just got home and I’m in the middle of the street and I just got home from a long day.” I would thought with common sense he would’ve gotten home and take care of himself, shower and eat and then call me instead of calling me just to rush me off the phone as if I WAS BOTHERING HIM. I WAS SO SHOCKED of this behavior! I said “hold on why are u being like that” his response was “oh you’re talking about this and you’re upset so I’m
Going to let you cool off” …. I was nowhere near upset, I was doing work for my business by the way on the computer so he wasn’t the only
One who was taking time to speak over the phone, I was in the middle of marketing and setting up new ads for new products while checking emails and reaching out to suppliers and my models, when he called me. He asked me a question and I’m answering it with encouragement especially since his friend passed away, letting him know not all pain is meant to be bad and break you down but to build you up. This dude STRAIGHT up cut me off and was telling me that I’m upset and he’s going to give me time To cool Off, and rush me off the phone. Like who DOES THAT? I was so turned off I also said goodbye kindly.

I couldn’t let that slide feeling disrespected so I sent him a voice note the next day stating to him how I won’t put up with that kind of rude behavior. He listened to it and didn’t respond, cool, I wasn’t mean about it or anything in the note I just said that what he did was rude and I won’t tolerate it. He never responded. I got a phone call from another good friend who’s running a charity for Back To School, long story short, her and her hubby started this since 2021, she called me to see if I know of anyone who needs help with school supplies, babysitter, tutoring and help with the cost of daycare. Well since my guy friend he said he was looking for daycare and they’re so expensive and he’s having issues with how expensive they are. I put him on the list of one of the persons to call to send out to this charity and plus whoever I invited were going to get bonuses like shoes and apparel for kids. I called my guy friend and immediately before even saying anything he once again jumped to conclusion telling me what he’s currently doing, okay cool, I asked him if he heard my voice note and told him not to feel like I’m criticizing him or attacking him but what he did was just foul, and I want no animosity or resentment towards him so I express how that made me feel, he said that he was still processing it because it was intense …. (What’s intense about telling you that you’re rude and need to cut that out or else you’ll lose me as a friend?)

Anyway I told him I’m inviting friends to a free event. All of a sudden the physical distancing is back in effect, he didn’t even let me explain what the event was for or even ABOUT, he said “ you should just invite someone else” I’m like what? Then I went about to ask him what is this physical distancing about? He said, “so it doesn’t make anything complicated when he peruse other interests (like girls)” I’m like wtf dude I’m not attracted to you like that! “Finally I now understand what you meant by it the first time because you were never clear on why you kept on doing this, first you said you do it because sometimes you get into your emotions and want to be alone and push people Away, and now it’s to peruse women and not making things complicated” PLEASE REMEMBER THAT HE CALLED ME WEDNESDAY NIGHT ASKING TO HANG OUT, DRIVE AROUND AND SMOKE TOGETHER. Anywho before I could even tell him about the event and let him know that I WASNT GOING TO BE THERE. This man started talking over me aggressively and then hung up on me! All because I call him out on him backtracking and changing his story, that’s when he tells me that I’m making this friendship complicated and if that’s what I’m going to do don’t ever contact him again.

I’m feeling exhausted and confused by his behavior. While I’ve tried to be patient, I’m starting to think he might have deeper issues, possibly ASPD or BPD. I don't know what to do anymore and am questioning whether I did something wrong.

OP posts:
TheLemonPeer · 25/08/2024 19:16

Theleaveswillbefalling · 25/08/2024 18:48

Then why post about it? Just move on witj your life.

What are forums for? It’s already written so if it’s already writing and posted then it’s for a reason no? If this post was so long and bothered you, you didn’t need to comment.

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invisiblecat · 25/08/2024 19:21

He sounds very tiresome to have as a friend.

JustFinishedCleaning · 25/08/2024 19:22

That was long and convoluted but this is what i picked up:
He is an assh*le with anger management issues and thrives on creating drama/upsetting ppl be it strangers or those known to him. He also probably thinks you are more than just friends, he has mistakenly taken all the time you spent hanging out as you having a crush on him. In his head you are this emotional irrational girl who wants something with him.
He sounds deranged tbh. Does he have ADD/ADHD etc? Who cares. He is very unpleasant. Are you trying to ‘save’ him? No? Good.
I suggest you block his number, stop second guessing yourself and go on to have a better life without this miserable gaslighting loser in it.

Irridescantshimmmer · 25/08/2024 19:38

It seems from your post that you genuinely want to help him but he is like an emotional Tigger, jumping from one issue to another whilst creating more.

Tread carefully as he seems unstable and the exhaustion you feel is likely the stress he has put you through.....just give yourself some distance for a while until you are in a clearer headspace then make a decision on wether to stop contact because this guy is a drain.

Webbymeister · 25/08/2024 20:22

Don’t give us half a story and then expect people not to judge you honestly

TheLemonPeer · 25/08/2024 21:41

Irridescantshimmmer · 25/08/2024 19:38

It seems from your post that you genuinely want to help him but he is like an emotional Tigger, jumping from one issue to another whilst creating more.

Tread carefully as he seems unstable and the exhaustion you feel is likely the stress he has put you through.....just give yourself some distance for a while until you are in a clearer headspace then make a decision on wether to stop contact because this guy is a drain.

At first yes I was trying to help being a friend, as that’s how I am, naturally genuine and empathic, and I usually don’t take crap from anyone. This one was just different!!! Truly it’s like it was Jekyll and Hyde. I don’t do any contact, he is completely different from all of the friends that I associate with in my life. He camouflaged himself to be this incredible outgoing person but the folks who are trying to reach him about his friend that committed suicide, literally reached out to me a few minutes ago seeing why he’s not responding lol, and they shed so much light that he is the complete opposite and don’t have friends because of how dismissive and rude he is. Just sad. Moving on …

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Idontjetwashthefucker · 25/08/2024 22:13

You have so many terrible male friends OP, where do you find them all?

fruitbrewhaha · 25/08/2024 22:17

This is weird.

loropianalover · 25/08/2024 22:20

fruitbrewhaha · 25/08/2024 22:17

This is weird.

Very! If only people would apply themselves to bettering their actual lives the way they do to these inane creative writing exercises online.

The post is longer than my uni essays!

MarkingBad · 25/08/2024 22:40

Sounds like cannabis psychosis to me.

I lived in a village that was a drop off point for various drugs (near the sea) and drug induced psychosis was rife among many inhabitants dependng on the dates the shippments came in. First thing the nurse said on a well womans appointment when I moved there was, if you take drugs, don't buy from dealers around here.

Changingeveryday · 26/08/2024 01:42

He uses you as a sounding board, when he wants to, he’s not looking for answers or solutions. He likes the sound of his own voice and being a victim. He didn’t want to hear that basically what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, he wanted you to just tell him how amazing and brave he is. He sounds like a drama Queen. He’s also a gaslighter, he likes to unhinge you so to speak with the push and pull technique, turning things around so that you question reality (eg. You’re upset- no I’m not I’m giving you advice- no you’re upset and intense and hard work) This is a classic abuser technique designed to destabilise you. He also seems to be fishing for whether you have a romantic interest in him, he seems certain you do and doesn’t want to lead you on. Overall he sounds quite delusional and exhausting. He probably wasn’t close to the friend who died, but it gave him another way to be a victim. I suggest you don’t hang out with loser drama Queen drug users, and just focus on your own life and work. Tell him it’s quite exhausting trying to be a decent friend to him and having it thrown back in your face. That he uses you as a sounding board but isn’t interested in any feedback and drops you when he wants to- or- DONT tell him that, just slowly phase him out, or next time he rings with some drama, listen silently and say, hey I’m sorry to hear that, I hope you’ll be ok- don’t offer ANY solutions and see if he still gaslights you. Use that as a test- no emotional insight or solutions from you- as when you offer those you are apparently intense and emotional. He sounds like he sorely lacks insight. Not sure what label you’d stick on it, he is who he is and he’s an annoying tw**, so that says it all really.

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