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Husband wants a different life without me

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istherelifeafter20years · 20/08/2024 10:16

Together for just over 20 years, married for 15, two DC's the youngest has just turned 18. My husband has never been the easiest man but when you love someone wholeheartedly you make it work.

Its been a tough couple of years as he has lost both parents and he had some health issues which on the whole have resolved. He has been suffering from depression for a number of years and taking medication. Earlier in the year he was particularly vile - the way he was speaking to me and treating me was disgusting until I finally snapped and the kids also told him he was out of order. All seemed fine.

Then I find out he is talking to a woman who is professing her love for him - I confront him and it turns out she was a crypto scammer - fortunately he hadnt got in too deep.

He buys himself a very expensive luxury car having recieved his inheritance and is smoking cigars - previously never smoked and its a lot of cigars. We agreed to draw a line under the woman and work on our relationship. I put it down to him having some kind of mid life crisis and he has also been diagnosed and treated for low testosterone.
Fast forward a few months and he doesnt see a future for us he feels stuck in a rut because he goes to work and comes home - I did ask him what he would do differently if he moves out and didnt get a response.
I know he is messaging another woman again I dont think he meets up in person spends most of his time in the pub or goes out for walks - yes he could be meeting someone on his walk but the kids seem to think it is all virtual.

This is destroying me - I thought we would get old together he is almost 60 and I am early 50's. I have seen a solicitor who has told me that I am entitled to half the assets which would see me allocated half of his inheritance and half of his very healthy final salary pension - I dont think he has a clue that I can touch these. He has already said the house is mine and he wont see me short. In the meantime he is spending money on home improvements and furniture but has told me he wants time out in October - not sure what he is planning to do whether he thinks he is going away with someone else.

My kids can see how unhappy the situation is making me and will support me whatever. Its my birthday next week and we are supposed to be having a couple of nights away after so I have time off.

I am currently planning to give him divorce forms and say that it is my birthday present to myself to give myself back my self respect. I also plan to give him the options regarding a financial settlement so I can instruct the solicitor accordingly. Before I do that I am freezing the joint savings accounts on the solicitors advice and taking him off my credit card so I am protecting myself financially as much as possible. I feel bad as he hasnt got a clue how to do anything for himself in terms of bills etc and he told me that the other day and that it was my fault - I did later tell him he had nearly the first 40 years of his life to learn.

It will be tougher financially but I can manage and the kids have said that they are happy to pay as they both work full time. Once the financial settlement is sorted then I will have a buffer but am concious my own pension is poor and as I have been paying the bills primarily, so want to make sure I can manage in old age.

I guess I am looking for someone to hold my hand and tell me that I can do this I just feel so broken and conflicted. Even though he is a complete twat at the moment I get glimpses of the man I fell in love with and I feel such a failure.

If I was reading this on here I would be saying go and enjoy a happier future but when it is happening to you the reality is very different.

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LostittoBostik · 24/08/2024 09:30

Just seen your updates.

Keep calm OP. He fucked around and found out. Whatever happens next he started. You deserve better and will find a much happier future without him.

LostittoBostik · 24/08/2024 09:31

DowngradedToATropicalStorm · 24/08/2024 05:56

Meant kindly but adult men like this are incapable of true change. They see themselves as naturally higher in the food chain than their spouses.

If he saw you as his equal, he would have expected you to protect your position and do something as basic as this but it has stunned him.

Honestly, OP divorce him. Stay friends with him after if you want but FFS protect yourself in every other way from how he has now become.

absolutely this!

OhMaria2 · 24/08/2024 09:39

istherelifeafter20years · 23/08/2024 21:14

Well it's all kicked off tonight as he realised I stopped the credit card and I told him I had frozen the joint account. Apparently he was willing to try and work things out but I have ruined any chance of that because I have broken his trust. This from the man who has been messaging other women and disappearing for hours. I am currently strangely calm. I followed the solicitors advice which apparently I shouldn't have done it's funny but I seem to have grown a backbone in my personal life in the last week and no longer will I roll over and play dead

Remember, pity and outrage are a bad persons greatest weapons when they are called on their bs. Fall for neither

anyolddinosaur · 24/08/2024 09:51

He destroyed your trust. You gave him a second chance and he used it to look elsewhere. Doesnt seem like he will change.

Grieve for what you thought would happen but remember all the nasty ways he has treated you and decide what you want now. You have time to make a happier life away from him.

Cherrysoup · 24/08/2024 09:53

Protect yourself and your finances and be prepared for him to get nasty when he realises how serious you are.

EastCoastDamsel · 24/08/2024 10:06

Well done for taking control and for seeing a solicitor.

Be prepared to fight. It will get ugly. Many malen believe deep down that they've earned their lives while their wives have been freeloading. And resent the fact that assets in a marriage are shared.

Do not be guilt tripped into accepting anything less than what you are entitled too.

Might also be worth getting cost estimates for if you need to take fight it in court. (Might put him off not settling fairly if he realises how much it will cost him to try to do so)

ABirdsEyeView · 24/08/2024 10:23

Find yourself another solicitor asap, since yours has left. Shop by around and go with the one who is most 'on it' and aligned to what you want.
I think your best strategy is to get things moving really quickly, before he has much time to rally.
If you can move any money to your own account that he cannot access, I would do so, in case he tries to block you from it or spend it!

LittlePudding1 · 24/08/2024 10:34

The reason he's so surprised is that he thought he could just do exactly what he wanted including seeing other women and you'd still be there doing all the washing, housework etc, waiting for him to decide what he wanted.

Get yourself another solicitor asap and get the divorce sorted. You have the support of your children and whilst it will be hard at first you will 100% improve your life without him!

Box24L · 24/08/2024 10:55

Staunchlystarling · 20/08/2024 11:33

Generally inheritance is excluded, unless say a home has been bought with it.

That’s far from true otherwise people wouldn’t go to such lengths to protect it (I work in a law firm, in estates).

Hatty65 · 24/08/2024 11:21

I'd give him a hard stare and say, 'Big of you,' when he says shit like he's willing to try. I'd follow with, 'I'm not the one who broke the trust. I haven't fucked about with other men or treated like you with disrespect. You don't seem to understand that it's YOUR behaviour that has wrecked the marriage and that you've lost any rights to decide on what I choose to do with my life from now on'.

istherelifeafter20years · 11/10/2024 13:41

Thought I would come back and update - I submitted the divorce papers yesterday and instructed the solicitors to deal with the financial arrangements. He has moved large sums of money abroad - no idea what for I think he is being scammed. Fairly sure that there is another woman but he continues to deny everything - latest is that he is booked to go away for a couple of days so he doesnt offend anyone but he wont move out. I think he is with his other woman but he isnt man enough to own up.
I am currently completely broken but trying to work and hold it all together but all I want to do is go hide away - but I will get through this hell even if its just by taking a minute at a time.
I so want to let his boss know that he is being manipulated and that I believe he is using his mental health as an excuse not to have his tracking on and be able to visit this other woman. Found stuff in his work bag and who knows their mental health is going to be that bad that they plan to be away 2 months in advance on a certain date ! Seems she couldnt or wouldnt go so he ended up staying put.

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NZDreaming · 11/10/2024 14:20

@istherelifeafter20years im glad to hear you are taking proactive steps but it’s concerning he’s spending money that (presumably) you are entitled to half of. I have no experience in separating/divorce but surely money needs to be evenly split or frozen until an agreement is made.

It does sound like he was planning to go away with OW but if she is a romance scammer when it came to actually meeting in person she would’ve come up with some excuse. Unfortunately there is nothing you can do when a person voluntarily gives money to someone else if they genuinely believe the person online is legitimate. In your husband’s case it’s pathetic and quite sad that he’s delusional enough to believe some random internet stranger wants to be with him and he’s throwing away 20yrs of marriage for someone who probably doesn’t even exist.

What would you be hoping to achieve by contacting his employer?

istherelifeafter20years · 11/10/2024 14:35

@NZDreaming just to stop someone else being mugged off and manipulated by his lies - as a manager myself I will support my staff to the hilt but it galls me that my waste of space is manipulating this guy to facilitate his love life. I think he has found someone local as well to make booty calls to and at this point they are welcome to him - just wish he would own up and go there permanently.
The bank are supposed to require joint signatures but when in branch the other day they told me that isnt the case - however i have found the letter from them putting that in place - so if he empties the account or takes more funds I think I will have recourse with them. I was going to go into branch and try and address it but I am simply feeling too fragile to fight that battle today.#

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NZDreaming · 11/10/2024 17:59

@istherelifeafter20years thats fair enough. Just focus on what you need to help you get through this. If that involves telling his manager then so be it but do consider whether that could result in additional cruel behaviour from your husband if he finds out. I wish for your sake he’d just leave but I suppose legally he has as much right to be in the house as you do currently. Are you managing to ignore and avoid him to a certain extent?

istherelifeafter20years · 12/10/2024 18:11

He has taken himself off for the weekend and i am a complete mess. I know that he left me with no choice unless I was willing to continue being a doormat. I just feel broken and just want someone to wave a magic wand and put things back the way things were when he loved and wanted me. I thought he was my forever person and now I am alone

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AW24 · 12/10/2024 18:33

I'm so sorry OP.
I hope you are ok.
Better days are coming and there will be some very dark days until you get there but you will get there xx

SensibleSigma · 12/10/2024 18:51

A there things you didn’t do because it wasn’t his thing? Art galleries? Cats? Jazz festivals?

Make a list of things you never explored because he wasn’t interested. Organise them.

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