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Husband wants a different life without me

92 replies

istherelifeafter20years · 20/08/2024 10:16

Together for just over 20 years, married for 15, two DC's the youngest has just turned 18. My husband has never been the easiest man but when you love someone wholeheartedly you make it work.

Its been a tough couple of years as he has lost both parents and he had some health issues which on the whole have resolved. He has been suffering from depression for a number of years and taking medication. Earlier in the year he was particularly vile - the way he was speaking to me and treating me was disgusting until I finally snapped and the kids also told him he was out of order. All seemed fine.

Then I find out he is talking to a woman who is professing her love for him - I confront him and it turns out she was a crypto scammer - fortunately he hadnt got in too deep.

He buys himself a very expensive luxury car having recieved his inheritance and is smoking cigars - previously never smoked and its a lot of cigars. We agreed to draw a line under the woman and work on our relationship. I put it down to him having some kind of mid life crisis and he has also been diagnosed and treated for low testosterone.
Fast forward a few months and he doesnt see a future for us he feels stuck in a rut because he goes to work and comes home - I did ask him what he would do differently if he moves out and didnt get a response.
I know he is messaging another woman again I dont think he meets up in person spends most of his time in the pub or goes out for walks - yes he could be meeting someone on his walk but the kids seem to think it is all virtual.

This is destroying me - I thought we would get old together he is almost 60 and I am early 50's. I have seen a solicitor who has told me that I am entitled to half the assets which would see me allocated half of his inheritance and half of his very healthy final salary pension - I dont think he has a clue that I can touch these. He has already said the house is mine and he wont see me short. In the meantime he is spending money on home improvements and furniture but has told me he wants time out in October - not sure what he is planning to do whether he thinks he is going away with someone else.

My kids can see how unhappy the situation is making me and will support me whatever. Its my birthday next week and we are supposed to be having a couple of nights away after so I have time off.

I am currently planning to give him divorce forms and say that it is my birthday present to myself to give myself back my self respect. I also plan to give him the options regarding a financial settlement so I can instruct the solicitor accordingly. Before I do that I am freezing the joint savings accounts on the solicitors advice and taking him off my credit card so I am protecting myself financially as much as possible. I feel bad as he hasnt got a clue how to do anything for himself in terms of bills etc and he told me that the other day and that it was my fault - I did later tell him he had nearly the first 40 years of his life to learn.

It will be tougher financially but I can manage and the kids have said that they are happy to pay as they both work full time. Once the financial settlement is sorted then I will have a buffer but am concious my own pension is poor and as I have been paying the bills primarily, so want to make sure I can manage in old age.

I guess I am looking for someone to hold my hand and tell me that I can do this I just feel so broken and conflicted. Even though he is a complete twat at the moment I get glimpses of the man I fell in love with and I feel such a failure.

If I was reading this on here I would be saying go and enjoy a happier future but when it is happening to you the reality is very different.

OP posts:
istherelifeafter20years · 22/08/2024 13:48

Thanks everyone - I told him last night and he was completely floored. I really believe that this is a mental health issue. He was calm and stunned. I am speaking to the new solicitor tommorrow and he knows that divorce isnt completely off the table. If I can see that he is making moves to change things and get help then I am willing to work to repair a relationship that has had been good on the whole for a lot of years.
My kids arent impressed but I have said I will leave if he doesnt improve / try - I have my self worth back and things need to change otherwise the divorce will go ahead.
He cannot seem to cope with very much talking he seems to really struggle and I dont think its an act but he is talking to me and I will just tackle one topic at a time and give him time to process it. If he won't discuss things properly then it will be the end. He does understand and see the pain he is causing me - which I suppose is a start but he needs to do something to change it.

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Not2identifying · 22/08/2024 14:21

Your kids are welcome to their opinions but they are not ultimately in the marriage. It is easy for outsiders to say that you should end it but they are not the ones who have to divide assets, move, lose friends (couple friends often disappear once you're single), face life alone, etc. Do what's right for you. Maybe this will end up being a wake up call for him.

eggandchip · 22/08/2024 14:28

It happens more than we think with men and women holding on till the youngest child is 18 then bam the guns are up they want out.
I see it as they have stolen years from us when it all could have been dealt with.
For the sounds of it the marriage was over a long time ago.

TinySmol · 22/08/2024 14:31

He won't change.

It's better to jettison him now before he does more harm.
He has been unfaithful too, has he not? That's reason enough to call it a day.

ABirdsEyeView · 23/08/2024 08:08

Personally I'd forge ahead - now you've given him a heads up, he'll get his ducks in a row too. I think you're just kicking the can down the road.
Even if you separate out the money as best you can and put your share where he can't access it, there nothing to stop him blowing through his share and then coming after yours in a divorce. If he wanted 5K that you think he's going to get scammed out of, why would you expose yourself to more risk?

anyolddinosaur · 23/08/2024 08:51

The 5k may be for an exotic holiday - but you need to know what he wants to spend it on,

He obviously thinks, as most men do, that he's a great prize and you'd continue to manage his life for him until he found someone else to take over. You have made him doubt that. In most marriages we stop telling our menfolk they are wonderful because they really are not but with someone else they are on their best behaviour so the faults are not as obvious and the men enjoy being flattered.

You could talk about what is missing in his life and how you can jointly change your life to make it more fulfilling for both of you. Maybe his inheritance will let you travel more, eat out more often, go to shows. It could be a wake up call to change your lives or you could look at him and decide he's not worth the effort. Good luck.

JFDIYOLO · 23/08/2024 09:13

Forecast: He will not change. This will go on. And it will get worse.

Duckyfondant · 23/08/2024 12:11

On the one hand you sound so sensible.. I think he may be your Achilles heal!

Mental ill health doesn't really explain looking elsewhere for an extramarital affair and then being surprised by the idea of a divorce. He takes you for a mug and you'll have just pushed his dodgy behaviour underground for a while.

Seaoftroubles · 23/08/2024 13:21

I think you may well regret this OP. He was shocked when you told him divorce was on the cards but you have now forewarned him so he can cover all his tracks and get his ducks in a row. And it looks like you will be doing the hard work (as usual) to try to help him change.

Dotty87 · 23/08/2024 13:48

He was shocked because he's assumed he would be the one to leave you when it suited him.

All he's going to do now is get himself organised, take advice and hide assets.
He doesn't want to be in this relationship for the long term, you may as well get out now in a better position.

istherelifeafter20years · 23/08/2024 21:14

Well it's all kicked off tonight as he realised I stopped the credit card and I told him I had frozen the joint account. Apparently he was willing to try and work things out but I have ruined any chance of that because I have broken his trust. This from the man who has been messaging other women and disappearing for hours. I am currently strangely calm. I followed the solicitors advice which apparently I shouldn't have done it's funny but I seem to have grown a backbone in my personal life in the last week and no longer will I roll over and play dead

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SensibleSigma · 23/08/2024 21:30

Well done. He had clearly never considered you may actually act for yourself.

lazybrownfox · 23/08/2024 21:52

I have been there and have the t shirt. Never thought it would be me blah blah. It was turmoil and a shock I won't lie. Now I love my life! I have a new husband ( not for everyone I accept) we are retired and holiday all the time as retired. There's nothing like a new man for a sex boost and I am living very well on my pension credit I received in the divorce. There's nothing as soul destroying as trying to put up with men like this ie your husband.

Bluesandwhites · 23/08/2024 22:21

@istherelifeafter20years

Well done ! You are everything I want to be when I grow up Flowers

FerreroFan · 24/08/2024 02:22

Just wanted to say you sound completely switched on and smart about what you need to do. Well done for having all his financial info and for seeing a solicitor early on. You must have raised your kids right too that they have rushed to support you.

You are doing the right thing. It sounds to me he is trying to leave you by finding someone who will have him and no one deserves that.

Someone advised me not to waste time grieving over a phantom future which has really helped. If things aren't happy now and haven't been for a while, then how would it suddenly have turned into the perfect relationship? It won't.

I hope things improve for you. Best of luck

mathanxiety · 24/08/2024 04:43

Give yourself time and space to grieve the loss of the future you thought you'd be having. You can do this after you have the divorce papers ready to be served.

Then make sure he doesn't dissipate the inheritance. Those cigars are going to add up.

Also, you should probably have a STD test.

BananaSpanner · 24/08/2024 05:04

You’ve played your hand now, you need to follow through. Don’t think he will change, he might to buy himself time for a few weeks month but the old habits will creep back in and he will protect himself financially next time.

Finistereoverthere · 24/08/2024 05:09

istherelifeafter20years · 22/08/2024 13:48

Thanks everyone - I told him last night and he was completely floored. I really believe that this is a mental health issue. He was calm and stunned. I am speaking to the new solicitor tommorrow and he knows that divorce isnt completely off the table. If I can see that he is making moves to change things and get help then I am willing to work to repair a relationship that has had been good on the whole for a lot of years.
My kids arent impressed but I have said I will leave if he doesnt improve / try - I have my self worth back and things need to change otherwise the divorce will go ahead.
He cannot seem to cope with very much talking he seems to really struggle and I dont think its an act but he is talking to me and I will just tackle one topic at a time and give him time to process it. If he won't discuss things properly then it will be the end. He does understand and see the pain he is causing me - which I suppose is a start but he needs to do something to change it.

Well done op. Why should you sit there passively waiting while he messages other women?

Especially when his mh or mindset puts him in danger of being scammed financially.

It sounds like he is destabilising your entire household.

I am so sorry that you are having to go through this though. I think once you take back control and look back over the years, then you may find that his current behaviour isn’t so much of a mid life aberration, as you said he has always been difficult and one’s ability to tolerate this sort of bullshit quite rightly diminishes over time.

Abstractthinking · 24/08/2024 05:33

I have ruined any chance of that because I have broken his trust

Double standard eh? I don't understand the approach that you both were going to make regarding him improving and changing.

Was your intention to proceed with the divorce and then stop if he changed?

Was his intention for things to carry on as normal and work on things (ie nothing changes)?

What improvements or changes were you looking for?

I totally think that you are doing the right thing. I think that he is very lucky you haven't thrown him out by this point.

lifesrichpageant · 24/08/2024 05:49

OP just came on to say that your DC sound lovely! Good job Mum and good luck wtih the next stages of your life. It will be okay x

DowngradedToATropicalStorm · 24/08/2024 05:56

Meant kindly but adult men like this are incapable of true change. They see themselves as naturally higher in the food chain than their spouses.

If he saw you as his equal, he would have expected you to protect your position and do something as basic as this but it has stunned him.

Honestly, OP divorce him. Stay friends with him after if you want but FFS protect yourself in every other way from how he has now become.

Summerhillsquare · 24/08/2024 06:31

"I am currently planning to give him divorce forms and say that it is my birthday present to myself to give myself back my self respect"

Well that's one of the most assertive things I've read on here OP, I wish I'd had your attitude!

Onwards and upwards.

stayathomegardener · 24/08/2024 09:04

Rooting for you OP.

LostittoBostik · 24/08/2024 09:24

I realise that after 20 years and two DC it's very hard to imagine another life.

But reading this as an external person, he has treated you appallingly.

I believe you will be much, much happier without him. You may also be wealthier - you're married so you will take a share of his pension and his inheritance, especially as it's his choice to end the relationship.

What do you do for work? Is your work stable until retirement? The fact that your DC are working is helpful financially, and you may be able to find a smaller home which is cheaper to run in time as they will be starting their own lives soon.

You're only early 50s. You could have 30 years of healthy life ahead of you. Do you want to spend it second guessing him and his whims? Do you want to be talked to the way you are spoken to?

The fact that he can't look after himself is his own problem, not yours. The transition year may be very hard but I bet you'll never look back...

LostittoBostik · 24/08/2024 09:28

@Staunchlystarling only in Scotland I think - in England it's often included (depending on timing, how it has been allocated, any pre death paperwork stating who it goes to etc)