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Neighbours cameras in back garden

115 replies

youllsan · 30/07/2024 08:47

We have neighbours around us who have cameras up high on their houses so we have no privacy in our back garden.
There is no need for this as could have put cameras up half way on their houses and would not have infringed on our privacy.
I think this is weird and intrusive.
What do others think?

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K0OLA1D · 31/07/2024 08:11

youllsan · 31/07/2024 08:07

I have already said one of neighbours camera is pointing in my back garden not their property

One of ours looks like it's point into the garden next door. It's not

youllsan · 31/07/2024 08:12

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 31/07/2024 08:02

People saying they don't understand why people are filming.
We put cameras up because we had a group of six masked men in our back garden at midnight with a drone, when DH told them it was private property they started shouting and threatening to cover back and smash all of our windows and burn our house down, police responded quickly but even if they didn't come back and cause damage it's well a known tactic that some burglaries are plotted using camera drones. If you have visible cameras they are less likely to target you. Once we had them installed the number of people going down our alley was astounding. Ours have a speaker and are connected to our phones so after a few times of telling those on our property that it was private property and they were being filmed we don't get people drug dealing or urinating in our alley anymore. We initially had our boundary asset to only include our property then our neighbour asked if it covered his drive, we explained we'd restricted it and showed him he asked if we would move unrestricting it so we did and caught someone trying to steal his bike from the bike shed he has in his drive.

I understand that but neighbours should be told/asked out of courtesy.
Also the cameras don't need to be at the top of house they can be halfway up the wall so not overlooking others property. Unless the intruders or whoever they want to see are Spider-Man it's ridiculous.

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youllsan · 31/07/2024 08:13

We have teenagers and they don't even want to sit in their own garden now as garden surrounded. One of the cameras is pointing in our garden. It's weird.....

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youllsan · 31/07/2024 08:15

taxguru · 31/07/2024 08:08

Can the cameras see any more than the neighbours could see looking out from their upstairs windows?

Unless you're going to plant trees or a high hedge, you have no privacy anyway.

Cameras record and pick up conservations and a lot have zoom facilities. It's not the same thing.

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youllsan · 31/07/2024 08:18

Can all these people justifying them on here say hand on heart they definitely aren't looking into others properties.
And have you asked/informed your neighbours before installing?

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Arconialiving · 31/07/2024 08:18

I'm with you Op & wouldn't like it at all, but you really need to go round and tell them not to film in your garden. Given you have children under 18, I'd be onto the police also if they didn't move them.

Soontobe60 · 31/07/2024 08:18

Just go round, tell them you’re concerned about where the camera is pointing, ask them to show you some footage. Job done!

youllsan · 31/07/2024 08:19

Arconialiving · 31/07/2024 08:18

I'm with you Op & wouldn't like it at all, but you really need to go round and tell them not to film in your garden. Given you have children under 18, I'd be onto the police also if they didn't move them.

Yeah I think I am going to speak to police as one of cameras pointing directly in my garden. It's really weird........

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SparkyBlue · 31/07/2024 08:20

Our next door neighbour installed cameras as they run a business from home so had expensive equipment in their shed and they called in to ask us would we like to look at where the cameras are recording and to reassure us they aren't pointing into our garden. Just go and chat to your neighbours. They'd probably be mortified if they thought the cameras are bothering you it's one of those things that people sometimes just don't think about

Soontobe60 · 31/07/2024 08:20

youllsan · 31/07/2024 08:19

Yeah I think I am going to speak to police as one of cameras pointing directly in my garden. It's really weird........

What’s weird is that you would go to the police before even approaching your neighbour!

Spectre8 · 31/07/2024 08:24

I mean they could stabx infront of their window all day long looking into your garden .....

Just go ask them if it bothers you so much noone on here can tell you if it does or not film your garden

taxguru · 31/07/2024 08:25

youllsan · 31/07/2024 08:19

Yeah I think I am going to speak to police as one of cameras pointing directly in my garden. It's really weird........

No, what is weird is you running to the police before you've even talked to the neighbours yourself.

StrawberryFire · 31/07/2024 08:27

youllsan · 31/07/2024 08:18

Can all these people justifying them on here say hand on heart they definitely aren't looking into others properties.
And have you asked/informed your neighbours before installing?

No I didn't ask before I installed, but yes I can say hand on heart it doesn't film my neighbours properties.
I told both side it doesn't recored their property, one had to check to say he wanted me to film him property as it would save him on cost of installing one. I told him nope not going to happen

CautiousLurker · 31/07/2024 08:30

We have cameras too (series of multiple burglaries, including in my neighbours house, last year access via back gardens). However we have placed them so that they do not peer into their social space and set the recording/view zones to ensure their privacy is not invaded - we also sent them screen shots to reassure them of this. They are actually happy as increased security in our house/garden benefits them (they’ve gone on to add cameras too).

Could you check with your neighbours what their recording zones are?

If, as is likely, they have rear windows overlooking yours and their garden, then you have no real expectation of privacy, but you DO have a right to reassurance that they are not recording and the zones are limited to the adjoining fence/hedge line of your properties.

K0OLA1D · 31/07/2024 08:36

youllsan · 31/07/2024 08:18

Can all these people justifying them on here say hand on heart they definitely aren't looking into others properties.
And have you asked/informed your neighbours before installing?

They don't look into anyone's property and no we didn't ask neighbours because it's sod all to do with them

K0OLA1D · 31/07/2024 08:36

Soontobe60 · 31/07/2024 08:20

What’s weird is that you would go to the police before even approaching your neighbour!

This

NewGreenDuck · 31/07/2024 08:41

I would think that the reason the camera is so high up is to prevent an intruder trying to block or disable it. Can you see into neighbours gardens? If you can then it's really no different.

Life2Short4Nonsense · 31/07/2024 08:42

Take a paintball gun and shoot it?

youllsan · 31/07/2024 08:43

NewGreenDuck · 31/07/2024 08:41

I would think that the reason the camera is so high up is to prevent an intruder trying to block or disable it. Can you see into neighbours gardens? If you can then it's really no different.

No we can't

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jackstini · 31/07/2024 08:46

Ours are level with the upstairs windows as they need a powerpoint

We can only see our garden on the back one

The front one covers a few driveways and the road, couple of neighbours are similar - so if we have an issue with anyone at our door, they have it covered and vice versa.

We have used it to confirm things were not delivered, someone was shouting abuse at an elderly neighbour and the police have used footage to catch a fake dpd man on an iPad delivery scam!

SoundTheSirens · 31/07/2024 08:48

OP, you’ve been told repeatedly that you can’t assess the viewing area of a camera by its position, that there are valid technical reasons for a camera to be placed high up a wall, and that most people ensure their cameras’ ranges don’t cover their neighbours’ properties but you refuse to believe it. So the question “why bother with a thread?” is completely valid because you’re not listening to anyone trying to reassure you.

So sure, go ahead and call the police on your neighbours if that’s what you want to do. That’s bound to improve the relationship which currently means you can’t just ask them politely for assurance they’re not filming you 🙄

CautiousLurker · 31/07/2024 08:53

youllsan · 31/07/2024 08:18

Can all these people justifying them on here say hand on heart they definitely aren't looking into others properties.
And have you asked/informed your neighbours before installing?

Yes.

Marseillaise · 31/07/2024 08:54

youllsan · 31/07/2024 08:15

Cameras record and pick up conservations and a lot have zoom facilities. It's not the same thing.

How do you know what these cameras can or cannot do?

Mrsttcno1 · 31/07/2024 08:59

youllsan · 31/07/2024 08:12

I understand that but neighbours should be told/asked out of courtesy.
Also the cameras don't need to be at the top of house they can be halfway up the wall so not overlooking others property. Unless the intruders or whoever they want to see are Spider-Man it's ridiculous.

Yes they DO need to be that high. We have cameras fitted by an alarm company and they specifically fit them at the highest possible point to ensure they can’t be tampered with. The whole point is that nobody is that tall, so that someone can’t just pop a bag over it or smash it and then get on with whatever they were doing.

Capeprimrose · 31/07/2024 09:21

Absolutely call 101 and ask advice.
We have cameras all around our property at first floor level which covers our large garden but not our neighbours.

I wouldn't like what you describe and I would be reporting it.