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Brothers news affecting me

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sunnylife2 · 23/07/2024 11:14

Tricky to know where to start, sorry for the long post!

So I am mid 30s and have a brother who is 5 years younger. I have been married for 5 years now and my husband and I had planned to try for our first baby this year.
My brothers relationship has always been strained with me and my parents since early teens. I know everyone has moments with their siblings but he has always been a very difficult character, even as a child. He cannot listen to rules (works for himself as he couldn’t hold down a job working for someone else, refused to go to school sometimes as a child, is very hot headed, had an alcohol/gambling addiction in the past which is now finally resolved etc) and me, my husband and parents always feel we are walking on eggshells around him. He caused a scene at mine and my husbands wedding by getting so drunk, I let it go at the time but it still hurts that he did this on my wedding day.

His life is pretty chaotic, he is like a walking whirlwind and anytime we see him we come away exhausted and mentally drained. Thankfully, he does live over 3 hours away from me and my parents with his long term girlfriend so the distance does help. He earns well in his job but is totally irresponsible with his money, buying lavish dinners out, watches, trainers and expensive handbags for his girlfriend etc.

He has always suffered with anxiety and struggles to manage this and his wellbeing himself. Whenever he is struggling he is straight on the phone to my parents saying he can’t cope etc which causes us all to worry about him frequently as he won’t seek help himself. My poor Mum loses so much sleep over him and I do too. We care about him so much but he never seems to realise we have our own lives and worries of our own.

A couple of months back my brother and his girlfriend announced they are expecting a baby. I am happy for them but also felt a huge wave of sadness at the announcement.
My parents are happy for them but understandably laid awake at night worrying about how he will manage it all and if his mental health will worsen.

I feel so self centred saying this but the whole situation has put such a dampener on my husband and I trying for a baby.
I worry my parents will think ‘oh gosh a second to worry about’ when they are only just getting their heads around my brother’s news.
I also worry about my own wellbeing and can’t imagine being pregnant/having a newborn of my own and worrying about my brother and his new child and the toll on my parents wellbeing if things become bad.

My husband and I have held off trying since the news, but we feel we are putting our lives on hold 😔. I am annoyed we waited so long as I wish we could have given my parents their first grandchild with not much to worry about as we are completely self sufficient and stable in our marriage.

Anyway, just wanted to vent somewhere and see if anyone else has had a similar family situation and how you handled this?
I know there is no easy solution but it really is getting me down.

Thanks for reading 🌻 x

OP posts:
LaughingElderberry · 23/07/2024 15:26

I agree with the point about enmeshment, and I'd add that part of addressing this will be to put in place some healthy boundaries.

It's fine to feel a bit worried about how your brother will cope with a newborn. It's not a proportionate response to immediately feel that you need to put your own TTC plans on hold. If your brother struggles then he struggles - he has a GF and she presumably has a family, so the baby isn't completely dependent on him.

Likewise, nobody goes through life without problems; part of being an adult is learning to deal with that as part and parcel of what you do. If you're unlucky then something really shit might happen - in which case it's fine to pick up the phone, and for people to worry about you. But it's not a proportionate response for you to continually lose sleep every time he hits a bump in the road and rings your parents.

My guess is that your Mum (or Dad) is straight on the phone to you and you have taken your cues about worrying from them. If I'm correct, then this is learned behaviour that you need to unpick. If your parents chose to lay awake worrying about him, then that's their choice. If they decide that every problem, no matter how minor, is a catastrophe, then that's up to them. It does not require you to react the same - and it doesn't entitle them to any expectation that you should.

You can still love the person and want good things for them, without upending your own life and plans whenever things don't go well for them. Setting yourself on fire isn't keeping anyone else warm.

Thudercatsrule · 23/07/2024 15:33

You sound jealous that they are having baby and you arent. I understand it must be hard for you, but jealousy ruins lives, get over it and get back to baby making with your DH.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 23/07/2024 15:40

Bobbotgegrinch · 23/07/2024 11:17

Why are you letting your brothers drama affect your life like this.

At the end of the day, none of this stuff is your problem. Let him get on with his own life in his own way and stop letting it affect you.

If you and your husband want to have a kid, then have a kid!

Got it in one comment.

In the nicest possible way, your brother is a grown adult.

dottiedodah · 23/07/2024 16:05

Surely his GF has her own family though? You are making this all about you!There are other members of the family and she /your DB may be different with them.If you want a baby then get on with it ! As my DM used to say they bring their love with them ,It may not happen instantly, and you are wasting time worrying about what might have been if you had "presented DP with a 1st GC" They are a small person in their own right FFS not an extension of your sibling!

FictionalCharacter · 23/07/2024 16:51

I think @LaughingElderberry is spot on:

*it's not a proportionate response for you to continually lose sleep every time he hits a bump in the road and rings your parents.

My guess is that your Mum (or Dad) is straight on the phone to you and you have taken your cues about worrying from them. If I'm correct, then this is learned behaviour that you need to unpick. If your parents chose to lay awake worrying about him, then that's their choice. If they decide that every problem, no matter how minor, is a catastrophe, then that's up to them. It does not require you to react the same - and it doesn't entitle them to any expectation that you should.*

Gofo · 23/07/2024 16:56

It would be out of sight out of mind for me. My sibling lives a 5 mins drive away and we have shared one message in the last 8 weeks. I don’t know what is going on in their life and don’t care much either and we get on fine in general.

Boomer55 · 23/07/2024 17:24

Step away from all the drama. Live your life.

LilacRaven · 23/07/2024 18:16

I would try and flip it into a positive if you can. Your (future) baby will now have an older cousin to play with. Family gatherings can be extra special with multiple little ones to play with each other. It could being you closer together.

I wouldn't let it effect you trying for a baby. Life's too short and if not this there will always be a reason to not have a baby so just go for it if it's something you want. Good luck x

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