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How many marriages survive infidelity?

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iusedtobeasize8 · 16/07/2024 13:52

7 months ago I found out my husband of 20 years had been having an affair. He completely denied it at first and tried to explain away evidence I had found but I knew in my gut that I was right. I threw him out of the marital home and was completely heartbroken. He eventually admitted to meeting someone else but denied that anything physical had happened as the other woman didn’t want to get involved while we were still together. All lies of course. Through much digging I finally found out who she was and I messaged her - she blocked me. She is nothing like me at all and I do wonder what the attraction was but he has since told me that it could have been anyone who paid him some attention. After I threw him out they continued seeing each other for around another month until he realised that he didn’t actually want her and he wanted me all along.
Since then he has tried to build bridges with me and our children. We’ve been to marriage counselling which has helped but I still can’t get over the way he’s treated me. He apologises all the time saying he was in a bad place at the time. I don’t trust him and feel 7 months on I could still throttle him for what he has done to our family. My counsellor says it will take take time but if me and DH are invested in making it work it will. I’m not so sure. I do love him deeply otherwise I wouldn’t be trying to repair the marriage but what if love isn’t enough? Has anyone had experience of this and it has all worked out? Or am I best to just get on with my life. Kind replies please - I know what he’s done is horrendous but it’s hard to switch feelings off after 20 years. Thanks

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Youhaveyourhandsfull · 26/07/2024 22:53

I know of at least two that survived long term infidelity. Others have failed. Its early days for you- be open minded and don't promise anything.

iusedtobeasize8 · 26/07/2024 23:08

Fairymcclarey - honestly I feel defeated. We had an argument and I told him that he’d treated me like shit. He responded that I’d treated him like shit too. He’s so manipulative

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bookishblondie · 26/07/2024 23:09

A friend of mine was cheated on - her husband slept with a work colleague at an event, he admitted what happened to his wife immediately and they chose to accept it and move on in their marriage. They later ended up having 3 children however she still brings it up from time to time, especially when she has a drink. He's also told my husband before that they never talk about it however he carries the guilt every day. I don't think it's a wound that ever really heals.

Sending you strength x

Gamezup · 26/07/2024 23:20

Speaking from experience, I could not get over it. I felt like I had been living a lie for nearly 20 years. I knew I could never look at him in the same way again. Divorced him and never looked back.

BonneMaman77 · 26/07/2024 23:26

I think the most important thing is to be true to yourself if you know that he is committed to your relationship, i.e.clarity on what he was looking for and why he has decided to be with you. If you can respect him. And if you can at some point forgive him.

It is about your partnership. Not about “a marriage” or “best for kids”. Only you will determine that and it will take some time for him to convince your leap of faith if you chose to take that that path. He should consider it to be a second chance for him (not for your relationship). You should see and assess his steps to give you that comfort.

You have a choice and he needs to show why you want to choose him.

UrbanDieter · 27/07/2024 05:49

iusedtobeasize8 · 17/07/2024 20:30

Yes it is easier said than done Urbandieter 😔. How do you track his car without him knowing?

I put a cheap recorder in his car under the seat. It could easily pic up phone conversations, not so much actual conversation if music was on. It easily had a months battery & recording space. Did it for 6 months. When I listened back I could skip every 30 seconds or so, which didn't take too long.
Totally unhealthy & massive invasion of privacy. I might pop it back in in a few months. I really struggle with trust now. How do I know what he's saying is true, does he really want to be better for me/us/the kids or does ge not want to loose his home/car/reputation??
I have re balanced the relationship everything is 50/50. I have time for me, have lost weight, look amazing. I can walk if needed.

FairyMaclary · 27/07/2024 07:12

An unremorseful spouse is not reconciliation material. Unless he realise this had nothing to do with you he is at risk of doing it again. The comment he made suggests he is either still in the fog created by his rewriting your history and justifying his poor choices or he’s an unremorseful cheater who doesn’t believe the rules apply to him and such a type will NEVER be reconciliation material.

How to help your spouse heal from your affair by MacDonald is a book you could download and read quickly. It will help show you what he should be doing.

Ignore anything that mentions unmet needs. It’s nonsense. I’m not a fan of Ester Perel either.

You need to realise as quickly as possible that you cannot make someone cheat. You are Not that powerful. By saying ‘you treated me like shit so my only choice was to put my penis into another human’ he sounds a bit silly to me, as it is nonsensical. And yet here he is trying to retain his marriage with the woman he purports to treat him
like shit. It’s nonsense . For your self esteem you need to really understand this.

My spouses behaviour cannot make me throw away values I truly believe in. It’s nonsense. You are the prize here. A lady who trusts, believes, is faithful is a prize in a relationship. A cheat who lies, sneaks anround (like a 14 year old with a packet of cigarettes) and blames his spouse for his actions - er nope can’t see why he’s a prize.

Marriages don’t cheat. He had options if he was unhappy that would have allowed him to retain his honesty and dignity, he could have 1) spoken to you and said we need to do counselling. 2) divorced you 3) put up and shut up. but he chose to cheat and hide it from you.

Nothing you do or didn’t do can MAKE someone betray their values. It’s absolute nonsense. You are not that powerful.

Not to upset you further but he is likely to still be lying (cheaters like to control the narrative and remain the good guy in their story). They often push the affair underground until the coast is clear. The website surviving infidelity has resources which will help you.

Do not share your resources with him. You need safe places to post. Be aware cheating causes ptsd in victims. And be aware most people don’t really understand the impact of infidelity on victims. It is very sad that it has such a devastating affect on thousands of people every year yet so many people seem to struggle to understand the extent of the damage it causes.

There is no going back to your old marriage. Occasionally people can build a new one. You will be going through the grief cycle and you have to have time to process, cry, rage etc. There are no shortcuts. But trickle truth will make matters worse but cheaters sadly are too selfish to put their spouse first.

After watching the damage it causes I believe infidelity is abuse. It puts victims at risk of sexually transmitted diseases and it is mental abuse. Victims are gaslit, lied to and made to feel they are going mad. That is abuse. Him blaming you for his actions is abuse. (And it is what domestic abusers often do). Affairs aren’t love stories. I see them more as Titania and Bottoms love story in Midsummer Nights Dream! Films and series with affairs - I look for the characters flaws.

The traits that allowed him to say he loves you while stabbing you repeatedly in the back are the same traits that are blaming you for his choices. Selfishness, poor impulse control, people pleasing tendencies, okay with lying, poor self esteem, needing ego kibbles, kisa, unable to self soothe etc.

At present he is in damage limitation mode and he will have spent time blaming you in his mind for his poor choices. By devaluing your relationship and character he could remain the ‘good guy’ and blame his behaviour on you. Most Cheaters have cognitive dissonance. You will now have cognitive dissonance. You cannot rugsweep. You need real life support if possible. I wish you well op.

Every day remember to Acknowledge the minutes or seconds you feel okay and on an even keel. Those seconds or minute will grow into minutes, tens of minutes and then hours over time. But you may find as you notice his poor character traits the feelings you have for him diminish. I do believe this is why people divorce 4/5 years post affair. It is when the betrayed person is on an even keel. And they realise the person they are sharing life’s journey with has character traits that are not life partner material. Get legal advice without telling him (he is not your friend) and take a friend with a clear head to make notes. Know where you stand. look after yourself.

(sorry for typos on small screen and not feeling well)

Highlandflapped · 27/07/2024 07:19

My father had an affair resulting in a child 30 years ago. They are still married.

Has it been easy? No. Does it still impact them? Absolutely.

I appreciate your dh’s affair doesn't involve a child and obviously that makes a huge difference.

LongWetSummer · 27/07/2024 08:22

So I do think it's good to consider unmet needs, but they are never an excuse to cheat.

Let's say the husband feels his need for sex isn't being met, then that's something that there should be an open and honest conversation around with both parties trying to understand the others point of view and reach a compromise, if possible.

Maybe she is tired, overwhelmed with the mental load/work and house work? Maybe he treats her more like a mother than a partner and is understandably incredibly turned off by that? What does she need from him in all of this?

Maybe one or both parties feel that their need for excitement isn't being met in the marriage. So how can they make things more exciting? What plans or goals can they put in place as a couple? Also how can they as individuals get more fun and joy into their lives?

So, no one gets to cheat because of an unmet need, but it is something that should be worked on.

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