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Working with the EX - 3 years on

39 replies

JustAboutHadEnough1 · 08/07/2024 01:13

Long-time viewer – never posted, but I need your words of wisdom or just a hand-hold. I’m going to try and keep this short, but apologies if it gets too long.
Married for 13 years, no kids (me 57, him 45). Neither of us married before.

Three years ago, my husband decided he needed space. To say he pulled the rug is an understatement. It was the end of Covid. We both work in the same school, and being both in education and having to provide on-line learning was so, so hard, and I guess I almost broke. I’m a teacher, he was an LSA. I am 12 years older than him. I thought we had a great marriage. I loved him so, so much and I thought the feeling was mutual. It was so brutal and shocking, I could barely put one foot in front of the other when he left. I literally survived minute by minute.

He moved out July 2021. I thought he was going through some kind of mental crises and all I wanted to do was support him emotionally. I carried on paying all our mortgage; he took out the money of our shared account to pay for a course for a teacher qualification, and money from our shared account for an apartment. Money was never an issue between us. We put both out our salaries together and I was fine with the arrangement. We were married. Money was shared.

He is now a teacher at the same school (I also paid for his degree). He kept his stuff at our house for a year. When he decided it was time for him to move it out, when he came to collect it, he lied about where he was living. I caught him out. Long shot is, he was having an affair with a mother from our school and was moving into her place with her children (who I teach). Strange the things we remember: when he was collecting his stuff, he counted the forks and realising his share was 6 of them, went through our dirty dishwasher to make sure he had all six.

I have tried to keep my dignity throughout the utter heartbreak and let him go. But coming into school every day, even now, opens the wound. We recently had our summer fair, and to see him with his new partner and her kids playing “happy families” kills me. To see him bringing the kids to school and taking them home is so fucking hard (we weren’t able to have children together).

Since and during the divorce, we didn’t communicate. He just cut me out of his life and left me to pick up the pieces of abandonment.

No-one needs to stay in a relationship if they want out. I get that. I wish he’d shared his thoughts before just fucking off without so much of a conversation, but I guess that’s on him. I just wish it didn’t affect me as much as it does, but it still does. Three years on.

We’d (I had) spent years and tons of money making the run-down house we bought into the house of our dreams. House prices where we live sky-rocketed and so the equity rose considerably. In divorce. he was able to have 50% despite putting in next to nothing. To buy him out, I I gave him all our savings, my pension and I had to take out another mortgage to buy him out of what I already had, before he decided he wanted out. I understand that in divorce, both parties need to be on an equal footing, but he was already living with his new partner and had many years to pay for a mortgage. But I didn’t want to let go of the house that I’d spent so much emotionally and financially on.

I don’t know what I’m asking for here. Maybe just someone to say, “yep, that’s shit… he’s a cunt… you deserve better… he abused you financially…”

I realise it seems I'm making it all about the finances. Maybe that's the only way I can get my anger out.

We had our end of year celebration a few days ago. When I arrived at the restaurant, the only place left for me to sit was next to him. I couldn’t do it.

Three years on, I still miss him. Even now. And I couldn’t even sit next to him.

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Incakewetrust · 08/07/2024 01:18

I hope that every time he's barefoot, he steps on at least 3 pieces of Lego!!!
What an absolute arsehole!
How dare he tear your life apart like that and waltz off into the sunset with her.

You deserve a million times better than him! One day he'll look back and realise how badly he messed things up.

Is there any chance you could move to a new school? I can't imagine how hard it is seeing his scumbag face every day!

Mmhmmn · 08/07/2024 01:20

Sorry, OP. Having to work with the ex who betrayed you is extremely difficult.

The dishwasher fork thing sounds really really odd and it does make me think you are better off in the long run without this guy. What a weird thing to do. He sounds utterly heartless and deserves no more of your consideration. Would you consider changing workplaces to get out of his orbit? Seeing him all the time is keeping you trapped and unable to move on from the bastard.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 08/07/2024 01:24

Oh OP, what a disaster. He is a shit, you know that. And a dishonest, money-grubbing parasite, who used you to finance his studies and his career and then screwed you over for as much as he could in the divorce. A truly vile, sleazy person. But knowing you are better off without such scum in your life doesn’t really help.

I hope you can move on and find happiness with someone who deserves a loving partner like you. Xxx

JustAboutHadEnough1 · 08/07/2024 01:31

Oh, thank you so much for replying. I don't really know what I'm asking for here, but reading your comments is so helpful.
I really don't want to give him the satisfaction of taking away my job too. I have thought long and hard about finding a new school, but it would feel like I've given him the power to take my livelyhood away from me too. He has taken enough already.

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Bewareofthisonetoo · 08/07/2024 02:11

So sorry you are going through this. Have no words of wisdom or advice -just complete sympathy. He won’t be happy - being as petty and unkind as he is will affect his current relationship too. It won’t seem like it now but in the future when you look back I hope it will be a relief that you don’t have to waste your later life with him. It took me a long time to get over the love of my life and it really seemed impossibly but time does eventually heal -but Itsdo much harder when you have yo have constant contact. I gave up a hobby I loved to avoid contact and although it might seem that my ex and his gf ‘won’ in that sense, it has been so much healthier for me so of you can look for another job I do think you have a chance of a speedier recovery

WearyAuldWumman · 08/07/2024 02:18

He is most certainly a cunt. You're well rid. Karma will get him.

solice84 · 08/07/2024 06:19

This has always been my ultimate relationship nightmare and I got a taste of it 10 years ago after being ghosted by someone I'd been with 1.5 years and was head over heels with . We worked in the same office and he was engaged to someone else on his team within the year . That almost killed me but I can't imagine what you are going through.
I'm so so angry reading your post
I have no suggestions other than therapy as I'm sure you don't want to move jobs because of these absolute thundercunts .

Newbeginning12 · 08/07/2024 10:35

@solice84 thundercunts. Love that word! Never heard it before !

Justasleep · 08/07/2024 11:28

Healing will be so much faster when you don’t have to see him

Looking for a new job will therefore be an act of self care (rather than a case of Him Winning)

JustAboutHadEnough1 · 08/07/2024 12:50

Thanks for your kind words. Yep, it's pretty rubbish. He had been depressed before he left – I thought he was going through some mental crises, so before he left I suggested therapy, which I think just gave him the courage to leave. So, I started therapy myself – I couldn’t have got this far without my therapist, the wonderful friends and family I have, oh, and anti-depressants.
My therapist was the one who held me together and told me to think very carefully about leaving my job (which I love). She warned me that it WILL get better, but it will take longer constantly seeing him.
We politely avoid each other at school, and it’s this whole avoidance and non-communication that kills me. I just want to talk to him. He was my world for so long, and I still miss him. Although I’ve been told I miss who I thought he was. My loving, kind, wonderful husband would never have acted as he has done. I guess he was never that man. Cognitive dissonance still does me in, and I’m feeling it hard today. It is taking all my strength not to reach out to him, but I can’t bear to hear the coldness and I’m-done-with you attitude. I should hate him for what he has done. Please tell me it will get better… I need success stories!

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Catoo · 08/07/2024 12:56

What a twat he is OP.
One of life’s takers.
He’ll be taking from his new partner too since I note he moved in with her.

If I was you, I would consider a new school if you think he’s staying put. Take your time and look for promotional roles so it will be onwards and upwards. What a relief it would be not to see him in the staff room and to move onto a higher pay scale. Staying out of principle won’t help how you feel each time you have to share space with him. Any good friends on staff will remain friends. Incidentally, in the incident you mention where the only seat was next to him, what happened? Did you leave or did someone have your back and swap with you?

Can you take in a lodger if finances are tight? You could start putting extra back into your pension to make up for what he took.

💐

Diarygirlqueen · 08/07/2024 13:29

Reading your post brought tears to my eyes. I can still feel your pain through your words. He is a vile man and I really hope karma comes knocking to him, praying that you heal and can move forward. You sound a lovely person xx

GauntJudy · 08/07/2024 13:51

Well you've had an absolutely shitty time @JustAboutHadEnough1

I'm pleased you have a therapist because it's too much to deal with alone.

I was left when my DC was 18 months old. Caught my ex with another woman and from then on it was like a switch was turned in him. No kindness or sympathy for me at all, just all about him and his new life. Yes it did get better over time but to be honest I don't think it would have if we'd seen each other every day. I needed to move on and stop thinking about him 24/7 and that couldn't happen if we shared a workplace.

On a final note he sounds like a parasite and he'll be jumping from host to host, so his current relationship will end once something more convenient comes along.

JustAboutHadEnough1 · 08/07/2024 18:03

You have no idea how much your replies have meant to me. I was feeling so bad and you wonderful lot have strengthened my resolve not to reach out. Hearing how he is perceived by strangers on the internet, certainly makes my feelings validated. I'm so sorry to hear how some of your have been treated. Some people can be so cruel.

@Catoo At the lunch, some kind colleague realised the situation, and he was invited to squeeze into another place further down the table. There was no way I was going to leave on his account.

All of your words have meant so much, so thank you for all your replies. I will get through this eventually. I’m going away with friends for a few days so that will take my mind off him. Thanks again for reading and helping. I will print this off to help during moments when the feelings get too hard.

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DeepGreenLeaves · 08/07/2024 18:38

This is so awful... You poor thing. I have a tiny idea of what this is like, though nowhere near the same degree. I also work with an ex - technically just a friendship turned fling, if you like, until he pulled the rug from under me and went off with someone else. Although it's nowhere near the level of your situation, I know just what you mean about the polite avoidance being such a killer. Like you, I haven't given up my job - it's a good job and also... I dread a bit cutting that last tie, even though it's torment. But I don't think it's possible to fully heal while still having your face rubbed in it. Wishing you the best Flowers

DeepGreenLeaves · 08/07/2024 18:48

I also think your ex has a right nerve working at your school and alongside his "new family" to really rub your face in it. I do hope you can find a better job elsewhere and swan off into something nicer and stimulating.

sillylittlethings · 08/07/2024 18:59

I'm sure he isn't as happy as you think. The new gf will hate him working with you.
I really feel for you but time will heal the pain. I really hope you can get through the next few weeks and enjoy your summer.

JustAboutHadEnough1 · 08/07/2024 19:00

@DeepGreenLeaves I'm so sorry. I really do know how you feel, especially the bit about cutting the last tie. We shouldn't feel that way, but perhaps there's a glimmer of hope that they will see us being confident, fabulous women and realise they have really completely ballsed up being with us. I still live in hope of this.
Perhaps the worst is being in your "safe space" at work, and having divorce papers left on your desk. I don't wish that on anyone.
Thank you for your words and hope you are in a better place now.

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JustAboutHadEnough1 · 08/07/2024 19:02

@sillylittlethings yep.... I hate parents evenings!

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DeepGreenLeaves · 08/07/2024 19:28

Thank you @JustAboutHadEnough1 , that's really kind. Mine is so much more trivial than yours and at least it didn't affect me financially, but it did hit me harder than it should. And yes, I totally know what you mean about part of us wanting them to see what they've lost! Then the sinking feeling that actually, they have probably hardened their heart and won't want to see it. Or that we are also giving them the opportunity to see us when we are sad or caught off guard, not the fabulous confident image we want to project. You sound out of his league - and he must know that.

How needlessly cruel of him to leave divorce papers on your desk!

solice84 · 08/07/2024 19:36

I'm afraid I didn't bloom and show him I was flourishing in my situation. I ended up becoming underweight and extremely mentally unwell .
I did change jobs in the end, same company different office , it really did help a lot .

Hoppinggreen · 08/07/2024 19:39

“yep, that’s shit… he’s a cunt… you deserve better… he abused you financially…”
Totally
I am sorry this happened, it must be heartbreaking to have to deal with it on a daily basis.
You shouldn't have to but have you thought about moving schools? Only for a better job obvs

JustAboutHadEnough1 · 08/07/2024 19:55

@solice84 so sorry. Same happened here. Although I managed to fit in clothes that I hadn't worn for a while :) The mentally unwell....yep.... that was me too. But I hid it well. I had to fake it to make it. Fucking hard work day after day.
@Hoppinggreen I have thought a LOT about moving jobs. I was rather hoping that he'd realise he'd been such a dick and move on, but I genuinely feel he thinks he did nothing wrong. There's nothing wrong with leaving a relationship that doesn't work for you. I get it. But it's HOW you do it. Have a bit of empathy ffs. Not asking too much. And I love my job.
I have the summer to think. I just would have thought that after this amount of time, I wouldn't be feeling like this. I guess I loved deeply.

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Theunamedcat · 08/07/2024 20:02

Scout around see if you can find a better paying job it's been three years he won't expect you to leave he probably thinks your still pining for him and his 6 forks

sunflowrsngunpowdr · 08/07/2024 20:23

He a cunt. You deserve better. Look for a new job?

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