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Working with the EX - 3 years on

39 replies

JustAboutHadEnough1 · 08/07/2024 01:13

Long-time viewer – never posted, but I need your words of wisdom or just a hand-hold. I’m going to try and keep this short, but apologies if it gets too long.
Married for 13 years, no kids (me 57, him 45). Neither of us married before.

Three years ago, my husband decided he needed space. To say he pulled the rug is an understatement. It was the end of Covid. We both work in the same school, and being both in education and having to provide on-line learning was so, so hard, and I guess I almost broke. I’m a teacher, he was an LSA. I am 12 years older than him. I thought we had a great marriage. I loved him so, so much and I thought the feeling was mutual. It was so brutal and shocking, I could barely put one foot in front of the other when he left. I literally survived minute by minute.

He moved out July 2021. I thought he was going through some kind of mental crises and all I wanted to do was support him emotionally. I carried on paying all our mortgage; he took out the money of our shared account to pay for a course for a teacher qualification, and money from our shared account for an apartment. Money was never an issue between us. We put both out our salaries together and I was fine with the arrangement. We were married. Money was shared.

He is now a teacher at the same school (I also paid for his degree). He kept his stuff at our house for a year. When he decided it was time for him to move it out, when he came to collect it, he lied about where he was living. I caught him out. Long shot is, he was having an affair with a mother from our school and was moving into her place with her children (who I teach). Strange the things we remember: when he was collecting his stuff, he counted the forks and realising his share was 6 of them, went through our dirty dishwasher to make sure he had all six.

I have tried to keep my dignity throughout the utter heartbreak and let him go. But coming into school every day, even now, opens the wound. We recently had our summer fair, and to see him with his new partner and her kids playing “happy families” kills me. To see him bringing the kids to school and taking them home is so fucking hard (we weren’t able to have children together).

Since and during the divorce, we didn’t communicate. He just cut me out of his life and left me to pick up the pieces of abandonment.

No-one needs to stay in a relationship if they want out. I get that. I wish he’d shared his thoughts before just fucking off without so much of a conversation, but I guess that’s on him. I just wish it didn’t affect me as much as it does, but it still does. Three years on.

We’d (I had) spent years and tons of money making the run-down house we bought into the house of our dreams. House prices where we live sky-rocketed and so the equity rose considerably. In divorce. he was able to have 50% despite putting in next to nothing. To buy him out, I I gave him all our savings, my pension and I had to take out another mortgage to buy him out of what I already had, before he decided he wanted out. I understand that in divorce, both parties need to be on an equal footing, but he was already living with his new partner and had many years to pay for a mortgage. But I didn’t want to let go of the house that I’d spent so much emotionally and financially on.

I don’t know what I’m asking for here. Maybe just someone to say, “yep, that’s shit… he’s a cunt… you deserve better… he abused you financially…”

I realise it seems I'm making it all about the finances. Maybe that's the only way I can get my anger out.

We had our end of year celebration a few days ago. When I arrived at the restaurant, the only place left for me to sit was next to him. I couldn’t do it.

Three years on, I still miss him. Even now. And I couldn’t even sit next to him.

OP posts:
Figuringitout24 · 08/07/2024 20:33

Op I had a similar situation. My fiance of 10 years had a ‘MH breakdown’ 12 weeks before our wedding. I supported him whilst he moved out, allowed him to get all the supper he needed..of course he was shagging someone from work. Even had a second house with her!! Found out my wedding was cancelled when my caterers emailed me, he didn’t even have the balls to tell me. I changed my phone number and have never spoken to him since.

Its been 2 years now, and he is STILL trying to get mutual friends to show him my social media, find where I live, has told people he’s suicidal from his mistakes…all whilst cheating on the girl he left me for! Your ex will not be happy, and his new partner will know what he’s capable of. Trust me; they are not the happy forever after couple you think they are.

for your own wellbeing, please please remove yourself and get a new place to work. You must heal and you can’t do that seeing them everyday. Take the summer hols to set up your new chapter and go and finally find your new happiness, you’ll thank yourself in the long run.

oh, and he is a cunt!! No question of that!

JustAboutHadEnough1 · 08/07/2024 20:44

@Figuringitout24 Jeez! That's so cuntish of him. How awful for you. Find some comfort in the fact that he still thinks enough of you to be finding out about you. I hope that came out right. I still reel that my husband walked out without a backward glance. It's taken a looooong while to build myself up again. I hope you can do it sooner.
It seems overwhelmingly that the consensus is finding a new place to work. My school is part of my identity - been there for a good many years and have built the place up from scratch. Literally. To leave because of him makes me so sad, but I guess that will stop me from posting here.
I came to the conclusion a while ago that however hard it was, working with someone who almost destroyed me, emotionally & financially, it was far better to be me than knowing I was the kind of person who tried to destroy someone who I professed to love and happened to work with. I know which one of the two I'd rather be, however much it hurts.

OP posts:
Justasleep · 08/07/2024 21:44

I’ve been through a very painful break up where for a long time we had to see eachother several times a week
I could not heal and therefore changed things to not see him & am finally starting to “get over” what he did

Keep an eye out for other jobs. Something might come along that is a lot better

AngryLikeHades · 08/07/2024 21:54

Shitting hell, what a nasty c*nt!!!!!
It's all bad but the fact that he's in a relationship with a mother of children you teach is a twist of the knife. BRUTAL!!!
Even worse that you couldn't have children and they're shoving it in your face, it looks almost sadistic!!
He's a vile man leaving you financially with less also.
I'm so sorry that happened, the manner of how he acted was needless and deeply disrespectful.

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 08/07/2024 22:15

Theunamedcat · 08/07/2024 20:02

Scout around see if you can find a better paying job it's been three years he won't expect you to leave he probably thinks your still pining for him and his 6 forks

"Pining for him and his 6 forks" 😂

Sorry OP it's shit, but I agree that staying in your current job is just reopening the wound day after day. It's been 3 years - if you weren't seeing him daily, you would probably be feeling a fuckton better by now. He's clearly not going to do the decent thing, so please decide instead to be decent to yourself, for yourself.

Mmhmmn · 08/07/2024 23:30

You post here as much or for as long as you like OP, whether you choose to leave your job or to stay. We’re here for you either way :-)

JustAboutHadEnough1 · 08/07/2024 23:39

@Mmhmmn oh, that's so lovely I have tears in my eyes. I will pay back someone for this kindness, somehow.

@Theunamedcat "he probably thinks your still pining for him and his 6 forks". I had to contact him a few months ago (email as always) regarding a family heirloom that my mother had given him (him, being my husband, so assuming it would stay in the family, not him the twat). Long story short, my mother asked about it and I realised she was upset about no longer having it in our family. I emailed him to ask if he would consider giving it back to our family. I thought I had worded it very respectfully. His reply: "I'll give it back and hope this gives you the closer (sic) if this is what you are really asking for". Nope... our family just wanted it back.
I am still pining. Not for the fork. He can shove it, but I'm glad my family got the heirloom back.

OP posts:
takeabreaker · 08/07/2024 23:56

I am appalled he didn't do the decent thing and change jobs, what a prick!. You have done amazingly well holding it together, but perhaps a change might be healing, rather than a loss.
You've held your head up high for 3 years, you deserve to find peace and move on, whatever that looks like. No harm in exploring your options over the summer, new job, new house, new start? What is keeping you there? If its the love of the job hang tight, but if it is in anyway connected to him it might be time to go.

Catoo · 09/07/2024 00:03

OP I do think a school move would accelerate your recovery. He really is a cunt for staying at the school. Could you go for a headship or train for it if you haven’t already?

That aside without too much detail, I had one if these types that I pined for for many years. I moved away and never saw him so I didn’t have to put up with what you have. He would deliberately show up at places he knew I’d be with his new gf - who he is still with as far as I know.

Anyway fast forward many years and he made contact and came to see me. I was elated. That lasted a couple of weeks and then you know what, I suddenly saw him for the money grabbing user he was and let him go. It was a few things he said and did. I wouldn’t give a shit if I saw him every day now. It’s completely gone.

I hope one day it hits you like that and you can finally feel free of him.

Live your best life OP. Enjoy every day of your well earned summer break away from that turd, and think about some changes you could make to move you forward. Did you get rid of all his DIY messes, move pictures around, repaint, complete change of bedroom and lounge, buy a new cutlery set etc? Would he be surprised how much the place has changed? Have you started dating again yet?

💐

Mummy2024 · 09/07/2024 00:17

JustAboutHadEnough1 · 08/07/2024 01:13

Long-time viewer – never posted, but I need your words of wisdom or just a hand-hold. I’m going to try and keep this short, but apologies if it gets too long.
Married for 13 years, no kids (me 57, him 45). Neither of us married before.

Three years ago, my husband decided he needed space. To say he pulled the rug is an understatement. It was the end of Covid. We both work in the same school, and being both in education and having to provide on-line learning was so, so hard, and I guess I almost broke. I’m a teacher, he was an LSA. I am 12 years older than him. I thought we had a great marriage. I loved him so, so much and I thought the feeling was mutual. It was so brutal and shocking, I could barely put one foot in front of the other when he left. I literally survived minute by minute.

He moved out July 2021. I thought he was going through some kind of mental crises and all I wanted to do was support him emotionally. I carried on paying all our mortgage; he took out the money of our shared account to pay for a course for a teacher qualification, and money from our shared account for an apartment. Money was never an issue between us. We put both out our salaries together and I was fine with the arrangement. We were married. Money was shared.

He is now a teacher at the same school (I also paid for his degree). He kept his stuff at our house for a year. When he decided it was time for him to move it out, when he came to collect it, he lied about where he was living. I caught him out. Long shot is, he was having an affair with a mother from our school and was moving into her place with her children (who I teach). Strange the things we remember: when he was collecting his stuff, he counted the forks and realising his share was 6 of them, went through our dirty dishwasher to make sure he had all six.

I have tried to keep my dignity throughout the utter heartbreak and let him go. But coming into school every day, even now, opens the wound. We recently had our summer fair, and to see him with his new partner and her kids playing “happy families” kills me. To see him bringing the kids to school and taking them home is so fucking hard (we weren’t able to have children together).

Since and during the divorce, we didn’t communicate. He just cut me out of his life and left me to pick up the pieces of abandonment.

No-one needs to stay in a relationship if they want out. I get that. I wish he’d shared his thoughts before just fucking off without so much of a conversation, but I guess that’s on him. I just wish it didn’t affect me as much as it does, but it still does. Three years on.

We’d (I had) spent years and tons of money making the run-down house we bought into the house of our dreams. House prices where we live sky-rocketed and so the equity rose considerably. In divorce. he was able to have 50% despite putting in next to nothing. To buy him out, I I gave him all our savings, my pension and I had to take out another mortgage to buy him out of what I already had, before he decided he wanted out. I understand that in divorce, both parties need to be on an equal footing, but he was already living with his new partner and had many years to pay for a mortgage. But I didn’t want to let go of the house that I’d spent so much emotionally and financially on.

I don’t know what I’m asking for here. Maybe just someone to say, “yep, that’s shit… he’s a cunt… you deserve better… he abused you financially…”

I realise it seems I'm making it all about the finances. Maybe that's the only way I can get my anger out.

We had our end of year celebration a few days ago. When I arrived at the restaurant, the only place left for me to sit was next to him. I couldn’t do it.

Three years on, I still miss him. Even now. And I couldn’t even sit next to him.

My God the man's ruined your life OP, he's absolutely decimated your retirement. I really wouldn't have gone 50/50 and took him to court your older and he had another house already took money to fund his education etc.

What a rotter. What I would do now, is focus on what you can do to plan for retirement save heavily as heavily as possible. I'd also move jobs and start dating. How he had the cheek to join your school is beyond me.

Don't marry again OP and why don't you consider fostering?, it seems you really wanted children? Your clearly a perfect candidate being a teacher and I think it will give you renewed purpose? It's also another income for you and the kids could be placed in your school.

Mummy2024 · 09/07/2024 00:21

JustAboutHadEnough1 · 08/07/2024 23:39

@Mmhmmn oh, that's so lovely I have tears in my eyes. I will pay back someone for this kindness, somehow.

@Theunamedcat "he probably thinks your still pining for him and his 6 forks". I had to contact him a few months ago (email as always) regarding a family heirloom that my mother had given him (him, being my husband, so assuming it would stay in the family, not him the twat). Long story short, my mother asked about it and I realised she was upset about no longer having it in our family. I emailed him to ask if he would consider giving it back to our family. I thought I had worded it very respectfully. His reply: "I'll give it back and hope this gives you the closer (sic) if this is what you are really asking for". Nope... our family just wanted it back.
I am still pining. Not for the fork. He can shove it, but I'm glad my family got the heirloom back.

Sounds like he has regrets.... don't go back though. Not ever. You've been treated appallingly

LakeDee · 09/07/2024 07:42

My circumstances are slightly different but I'm three years on from my ex telling me he didn't love me, there was no one else involved though. As you say, anyone is entitled to leave a relationships but there's a respectful way to do it, but my ex was cold and discarded me like dirt. Like a PP I too left a mutual hobby to avoid him and I was really devastated about this - but took up hobby elsewhere and am enjoying it so much. Still, it took me a long time to get over the hurt but I'm in a good place again. I've had to have total no contact

Bewareofthisonetoo · 09/07/2024 07:58

As a PP said, there is a real risk he will make contact again, so please do seriously consider changing jobs and cutting all contact.
I have done my best to do this with my ex, but woke up today to a message from him (which I haven’t read, just put into archive -will look at somewhere else today when distracted by being with a good friend -not going to pollute my safe lovely bedroom now by looking at his words) ). I should block but seems a bit over dramatic and wasn’t expecting to hear.
I simply could not cope with the inflammation (which is what it is) that your are enduring of having to see him every day in what should be your own space and in a job that is generally confided to be stressful anyway. It’s like having eg a sore that someone puts vinegar on every day at random times to prevent it healing.

PartnerInCrime · 09/07/2024 08:52

I understand how you feel because I lived through it myself. I found it very hard to regain my footing after my husband fell in love with his colleague in a very public role. I didn’t work with them - that makes your situation much harder to deal with.

It took me years to get through it and that was done by limiting communication (we have children) and trying to block any thoughts of him/them out of my mind. It was necessary to protect myself and heal. I did reach the end of that dark tunnel and the old life seems so far behind me now. I can honestly say that I rarely think of him now and my thoughts are apathetic.

I couldn’t have worked with him. I would have been mentally broken by having to do so. In your case, the other woman and her children will eventually leave your school. That will make it easier on you, but if I were in your situation I’d find another school. It must be very painful to be faced with it every day and have the wounds reopened. You need distance from this situation. I’m sorry you’re having to go through this. It’s awful.

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