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Depressed Husband Destroying Marriage

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Peppette · 30/06/2024 22:16

So this is probably a bit of a long one but I'll try to get everything out so I don't drip feed.

My husband has become increasingly depressed since his mother passed away 2 years ago, he went on antidepressants in December and started seeing a therapist about a month ago. He has been depressed before and has said after the fact that when he is like that he tends to be very destructive with regards to his life and our relationship, and when he comes out the other side he apologises and we move on. This time he is worse than he has ever been and is saying he wants a divorce.

About 18 months ago we had a problem with a flat that we rent out (slow leak causing damage that needed to be fixed), he got about half way through sorting it and then apparently "begged" for me to take over. I didn't feel confident taking over the whole thing as I was completely lost on what had already been done and had never been involved in the flat being rented out. Plus it was December and anyone with kids knows that I was pretty overwhelmed with Christmas things that seem to take over that month, things he never helps with. However, I helped in any way I could, searching for an alternative accommodation for tenants, helping him make decisions on products etc, researching things like tiles etc.

His depression (or the tablets he takes for it) causes him to be forgetful and misremember things, he will also be making a point and then two minutes later push to opposite point (e.g. "we need to bring up things that are upsetting us then and there" will turn into "we need to not get so bothered by everything and wait to calm down" two minutes later and then deny he said the first thing). He will also hear things that I didn't say, for example when I brought up the memory thing as a genuine concern I asked "what's going on with you" and he heard "what's wrong with you" which is obviously different. I feel like when he speaks to his therapist he isn't necessarily telling her exactly what happened and just the way he misremembered it and the therapist said that I may be emotionally abusing him and he has clung onto this as fact. I am aware this sounds bad and I'm obviously very upset at this turn of events. I am also aware that making someone question their reality is a form of emotional abuse but surely that doesn't count if their version of reality is currently unstable?

So I asked him how had I possibly emotionally abused him and this lead to me booking an appointment with my own therapist (because if I am unknowingly emotionally abusive then they would know, he also has concerns that I have OCD but I don't so figured I would talk about this as well) and him giving me a list of all the ways I have emotionally abused him. The list was 4 pages long and listed things like "criticizing appearance - pointing out when I have food in my teeth" and "criticizing when I have not done a job to YOUR standards" and also things that were completely misremembered like never supporting him in his job because I got angry that he said he was doing a 90 minute job interview (a test without an interviewer) and didn't come down for 5 hours without keeping in contact about that and disregarding all the other times I have helped him work out his job options and helped him rank them so he can figure out which one to accept. And everything I do or say gets twisted to fit into this version he has of me that is abusive or obsessive compulsive or unsupportive.

So he said that doing this list highlighted to him how completely unsupportive I am and reminded him how angry he was about the leak in the flat thing. And he is so, so angry with me about it. Like being really nasty and downright cruel. He is also saying he wants a divorce because of this incident that has really "scarred him emotionally". We have an appointment with a couple therapist next week but I feel like he's not going into it with an open mind (or clear mind).
Outside of these depressive episodes our marriage is really good and they don't happen very often (approx 3 times in 12 years), we have two primary school aged kids as well and I can't bear the thought of our marriage blowing up because he is in self destruct mode and that he may come out the other side regretting it and having caused all this pain to me and the kids.

Quite frankly I guess I needed to rant for a bit and maybe hear from people who went through something similar and if it turned out ok. And maybe get some tips about marriage counselling and how to hold my own a little around the house as I am currently hiding out in our bedroom (he's sleeping downstairs) if the kids are in bed as he seems to get nasty when the kids aren't around thankfully. There's also loads more stuff that has happened but this post is already too long and this is the gist of the current problem I'm experiencing.

OP posts:
Turtletunes · 03/07/2024 22:06

kittybiscuits · 03/07/2024 21:59

OP, it's more than possible for a person with depression to also be an abusive arsehole. This is definitely what you have on your hands here. He's projecting his own behaviour onto you and gaslighting you. It will wear you down and eventually it will break you. Grab the divorce he wants with both hands. He will only get worse.

I totally agree

ThisWormHasTurned · 04/07/2024 08:30

I had a H like this. It felt like he was depressed so he thought we should all be miserable too. He’d moan about..everything. Work, the house, how I was with him. Also experienced the twisted version of realities. I started booking things for me and DD. If I invited him, he would use his get out clause of ‘I’ll stay home with the dog’. He had totally disengaged from family life. He slept in the spare room. He’d hole up for hours on weekends. The way he acted, it felt like he implied we were the problem dragging him down and he’d be far happier in a bachelor pad. So in the end I ‘set him free’. Then he didn’t want it. He wanted a trial separation. Even then though he couldn’t make any effort. He wanted weekly dates but he never made any plans, the only effort was that he bought me chocolate a couple of times! 🤷🏻‍♀️
Ironically, he started dating someone else within a few weeks and now lives with her and her DC and sees DD on weekends.
Honestly, as soon as he left, I felt a huge sense of relief. It’s not been easy to manage alone, financially it’s been tough..but I am so much happier. DD observed that XH claims he’s happy but he ‘doesn’t seem it’.

Codlingmoths · 04/07/2024 08:40

I think you go to the therapy session and say I’d like to work out how to separate at least temporarily because I can’t live like this, with everything i do and have done in the past torn apart every time he says me. If he says hello I’m in trouble because he said it, if I respond, if I don’t respond, and I need to know I can have days where I do not need to interact with him at all, because I wake up and am filled with dread at seeing him and hearing the next criticism. I hide once the kids are in bed as he’s better in front of them, thank goodness. I can’t live like this. I’ve supported for years and years and I can’t anymore, he needs to leave.

Codlingmoths · 04/07/2024 08:40

*sees me. Not says me

cavernclub · 04/07/2024 08:57

I've been in this situation. When I was in it, I didn't realise how bad it had got. Everything revolved around H and his depression. It was impossible to challenge and sort out issues as I didn't want to risk making him worse. The DCs were on tenterhooks and it was affecting them. In my experience, kids are very astute, have alarming insight sometimes and it's immensely challenging for them too to deal with that level of depression. If you're not careful, they could up blaming themselves for it (have I done something bad to cause this?). It was almost a relief for them when I decided to separate. It was a truly awful decision to make but the right one. A weight lifted.
I would try and speak to another Mum friend if at all possible- go for a coffee or a walk if you can. I'm an introvert too but I was brave and found a confident- people can be enormously supportive if you can ask for help.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 04/07/2024 09:15

Mouswife · 01/07/2024 06:57

You should ring his therapist direct and find out if she doesn’t do these sessions or if he is lying. She needs all the facts. I suspect he is making a lot up in these sessions to get leverage in the relationship.

That's really not appropriate at all and a good therapist won't engage in any way like this unless their client has given permission. This would also feed into the idea that OP could be abusive.

CarrieMoonbeams · 04/07/2024 09:46

My dad used to be like that with my mum OP. Then he started on me and my brother too (physical abuse too though).

I remember the anxious feeling in my stomach when he was due in from work. One day, I got battered because I didn't run to the door to say "hello daddy" when he came in - well, no, because I was terrified of him so used to try to stay in my room out of his way. So for the next 3 days after that particular battering, I ran/limped to the door and said "hello daddy" with a big fake smile on my face. On day 4, I got battered again because "give me peace when I come in the door, you fucking stupid brat!"

His excuse was that he had high blood pressure. Prick. We literally couldn't do right for doing wrong 😔

I really hope things work out for you, in whichever way.

3luckystars · 31/10/2024 13:16

leeverarch · 01/07/2024 14:18

Ah. So he chooses to treat you in one way when the kids are around, and another way when they aren't.

That says to me that he is well in control of his faculties, and is able to pick and choose when to be a bastard towards you. So he is doing it deliberately, and lying and gaslighting not only you, but his therapist as well.

I agree totally with this and hope you got out ok. I just wanted to wish you well x

3luckystars · 31/10/2024 13:20

Sorry also for bumping a thread a few months old but that quote just really struck a chord with me. Thank you so much 💕

Peppette · 31/10/2024 16:49

It got way worse and I've got a house I'm moving into next month. He is now turning all our mutual friends and even trying to turn the children against me. Hiding and lying about financial things to drag it out. He definitely knows what he's doing because he's telling all the people we know that I'm the one who did them. I literally want to go back in time and shake myself for marrying this man and for ever thinking of having children with him and linking me to him forever.

OP posts:
pointythings · 31/10/2024 18:02

I am glad you're out and have a safe place to go. Head down now, work through the divorce. How old are your children? It's a fine line to walk, but you are allowed to tell them that the things their daddy is saying about you are not true. Ditto with your mutual friends, obviously - are they aware of his history of mental ill health? (And no, I'm not saying his depression is an excuse - I know from experience that it is possible for someone to have a mental illness and be an asshole).

3luckystars · 01/11/2024 09:24

Don’t think about anyone else, YOU know the truth and do do we. Keep going x

NeedsMustNet · 07/02/2025 14:37

4 pages of things you do wrong… does not suggest a man who is thinking nice things about you any of the time. So much resentment, so little time!

I wish you well. You are clearly trying to handle the situation in a no regrets way. Don’t blame yourself for not predicting all of this.

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