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Keeps threatening to unalive himself if I leave

95 replies

Beanie342 · 28/06/2024 20:18

Every time I try to leave DP has a breakdown, he’ll hurt himself by cutting himself and hitting himself, telling me if I end it he will kill himself. He is the type of person that I don’t not believe that he wouldn’t do something reckless in the heat of a moment. I literally don’t know what to do anymore, his mum is crap and would just add to the stress if I went to her about it, and he isn’t very close with anyone else through his own choices. I know he is a grown man and not my responsibility but he is also the father to my two children (DD 6 and DS 2), my daughter especially would hugely struggle with us separating, let alone if he was no longer around at all. Nor would I ever forgive myself as I know I would feel responsible.
I just can’t go on feeling like this however, I’m normally a relatively chilled out bubbly person but I’m left feeling withdrawn and numb, honestly feel fucking empty at the moment and any spare moment I get alone I find myself crying. He isn’t physically abusive and I know soooo many woman are going/have been through worse but it’s just the consistency of the shitness and sulking which is purely draining. Just an example what an average day is like, here is what happened today -

Last night DS had a windy tummy and was crying in his sleep from around 11:30pm, I spent the night comforting him and trying to help him until it got to 4am and I felt so sleep deprived that I desperately needed help. DP normally wakes up to go gym at 4:30am so I just asked him if he could please skip gym this one morning to take over looking after DS so I could just try and get 2 hours sleep before having to wake up for the day, the first time I have ever asked him to help with DS in the night. He came and took over and I didn’t think it was an issue until I woke up from that bit of sleep I did have, he was sulking round the house huffing and puffing giving me the cold shoulder, I asked him what the matter was and he said that it was my fault that he couldn’t go to the gym this morning and that he has to go tonight instead now which he really didn’t want to do. I just left him to it, he left the house for work and text me to apologise for being grumpy which was fine. He had a half day at work today as was DD sports day and she really wanted him there, when he came in at lunch time he seemed ok but I asked him if it was ok if I met my friend tomorrow evening for a drink or two as it was her birthday and as a family we had no plans, I tried to word this as carefully as I could letting him know I’d only be about 2 hours and wouldn’t be late at all. Immediately he goes off on one telling me that we’ve spent no time together lately and that why do my friends get my energy etc fully letting me know he wasn’t happy about it and I ended up cancelling because I just knew it wasn’t worth the argument it would cause and also the agg I would get from him whilst I was actually out/when I got home. We got out the house to head down to DD school and I just held my hand out to him and said come on let’s forget about it and start fresh, he held my hand back but I could tell he still was off with me. All round sports day I was trying to chat to him all fine and happy and again, just kept being off with me no matter what I did. On the way home I offered to go buy both children an ice cream to say well done to DD, when we got there I asked DP if he wanted one to which he responded with a no still being sulky, I just got him one anyway as was still just trying to get along. Anyways we had to walk up to the shop to get some bits for tea and he is ALWAYS in such a rush and stressed out, when we were in the shop he just rushes me around and so I quickly grab what we need but on the way out I spotted the ice cream freezer chest thing by the door and I just wanted to check if they had my favourite ice cream for future preference and he just bites my head off ‘will you just hurry up I’m done waiting around for you’ to which I replied with ‘can you stop being so stressy!’, that was it then, walked off ahead all the way home without looking back. We’ve got home after him and he can tell I’ve been crying under my sunglasses when I take them off and he then apologises again and says he doesn’t know why he is the way he is. He’s said his mental health is really bad at the moment so I need to be understanding of him basically, I do get mental health can be a huge struggle - but what about when it starts affecting the mental health of the people around them? I don’t know

lol even now as I’m typing this I’m sat getting DS down again and he's text me saying ‘coming down?’ Couple minutes later ‘ignore me then’

OP posts:
pikkumyy77 · 28/06/2024 21:26

Don’t fall for it, OP. Mr misery will fall on his feet. He will doss with a gym rat, pick up a new woman at the pub, or bully his dear old mum into moving home. Its a very good thing for him to learn that relationships are transactional. If he wants his mum to take care of him he’d better learn to be very nice to her.

The more you reward a behavior, the more you get it. His behavior is atrocious, so don’t accept it. Its the only way he will learn.

Amonthinthecountry · 28/06/2024 21:30

He could get a room in a shared house….

Iaskedyouthrice · 28/06/2024 21:31

You ring and ask for the police OP. Whether he is bluffing or not, if he is threatening suicide in a heightened state he could seriously hurt you in no time at all.

Ilovebees · 28/06/2024 21:37

@Beanie342 but if you break up with him , is he willing to just walk out nicely and say it’s fine or will he kick off and make things extremely difficult ? Is he the type of person who would accept the break up and move on ?

Justcallmebebes · 28/06/2024 21:39

I couldn't read all of that, but any time a partner threatens suicide, call the police for a welfare check. He won't do it again. He's a manipulative twat

Bananalanacake · 28/06/2024 21:39

Who owns the house, you say it's yours, does he pay towards bills, does he have any claim on the property.

DreamTheMoors · 28/06/2024 21:50

Two of my family members took their own lives.
They never talked about it, they just did it.

You can let this guy continue to blackmail you or you can walk out. What he chooses to do after that is none of your never mind.
If he has that little consideration for his own children, you’re doing them an enormous favour by removing them from his presence.

11oclockrock · 28/06/2024 21:56

OP this is abuse. Suicide threats are a means to control you. You and your kids deserve better. Start making plans to leave.

Quincy2381 · 28/06/2024 21:56

I have a partner the same. I have been trying to leave for years on and off but the same reaction happens! Its emotionally abusive behaviour and very manipulative. I really feel for you. Do speak to your local domestic abuse service. It helps to talk it through and you start to realise all the other behaviours and red flags they display.

ThoseDarnCrows · 28/06/2024 22:13

Beanie342 · 28/06/2024 21:09

Thank you so much for your support everyone, I really appreciate it.
I suppose all this time I’ve been worrying about how it will affect my children if we were to separate, when really the way this relationship is, will also affect them. I would never ever want my daughter in a relationship like this, so it makes full sense to set the standard.
I am fortunate in the way that it is my house so I would not have to leave with the children but then that puts me in another position of feeling bad as he has no where to go, he isn’t close enough with anyone to stay with them and his mum wouldn’t have him. He doesn’t have enough money for private renting either, so he has made it clear that he would have to live in his car and as I do still care about him, I wouldn’t want this.

His having nowhere to go is not your fault, and not your problem to solve.
His not having enough money is not your fault and not your problem to solve.
His having to live in his car is not your fault, and not your problem to solve.

All of these are his fault through being a manipulative, controlling bully, and therefore his problem to solve.

Set your standards high. Show your children how you all should be able to live - happily, safely, free from all the emotionally abusive crap he flings at you to keep you under control.

Best of luck Flowers

Roadaheadclear · 28/06/2024 22:14

It’s his choice OP, you can’t control that. Do what you need to do, you can’t control his reaction, good or bad.

PardonMee · 28/06/2024 22:16

when he self harms and threatens suicide call the police. It’s not your issue to resolve, he is responsible for his own mental health.

your DD will be much better off with two separated but happy parents. Although it may take a few years for you both to recover from the separation.

Write a letter to the county council housing department stating he is homeless from x date and he will no longer be able to live with you. Ask the police to remove him Hif he refuses to leave.

somethingwickedlivesnextdoor · 28/06/2024 22:20

Glad the house is yours. Makes things simpler.

Where he will live from now on is not your responsibility.

If he hadn't treated you so badly, if he hadn't been controlling and manipulative, you wouldn't be thinking about leaving him.

His behaviour has led to this.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/06/2024 22:21

but then that puts me in another position of feeling bad as he has no where to go

Not.your.problem.

MarriedMama23 · 28/06/2024 22:22

Just to say, my ex threatened constantly when I was about to break up with him and continued for a while after.

He's still alive over 8 years later.

It's all a tactic.

StMarieforme · 28/06/2024 22:24

ElleLeopine · 28/06/2024 20:27

You can't control his actions.

Don't let him control yours.

100% this.

You need to leave.

Aussieland · 28/06/2024 22:27

has no where to go, he isn’t close enough with anyone to stay with them and his mum wouldn’t have him. He doesn’t have enough money for private renting either

do you think maybe he isn’t close to anyone because he is a horrible person? All of these things are his doing. Just like you wanting to leave him is actually his doing- he has CHOSEN to be an arsehole to you. These are the consequences of his actions.

i am so angry on your behalf that he so manipulative and that you are having to deal with his shit. Imagine how free life will be without him in your house…

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 28/06/2024 22:31

What an awful controlling bully of a man. Tell him to go. Keep him away from your children. Report him every time he threatens to hurt himself

albatrossjoe · 28/06/2024 22:39

I also couldn't read and run. Honestly OP, if you were saying today was a one off and hadn't mentioned the threats of suicide then I'd be replying very differently.

But I echo everything other posters have said. Either he says he'll kill himself because he knows it's the most effective tool he has to make you stay... Or alternatively what does it say about how much he loves or respects you that he's essentially saying "I don't care what your thoughts or feelings are, you'll stay with me unhappy or I kill myself".

I couldn't see it in the replies I skimmed over, but hopefully someone else has already said this: If you were to leave and he did end his life, that is NOT your responsibility or doing. (Nor is his financial or living situation). Obviously I don't know him at all, but with young children and given the rest of your post about his passive aggressive behaviour I would be surprised if he did end his life. I suspect, as I say, he knows it's the ultimate bargaining chip to stop you leaving. Plenty of people have mental health difficulties and wouldn't even contemplate using suicide threats as leverage to get what they want.

I know this must feel so hard and a near impossible situation. I have two children that are near identical ages to yours, and I'd be led by "what would you want them to tolerate in relationships" and "is your unhappiness to keep an illusion going worth it for you or the children long term?" Wishing you all the best. X

RogueFemale · 28/06/2024 22:44

You and your children will thrive without this worthless piece of shit in your life. Nothing you have described suggests that he contributes anything at all to the happiness of you and your children, neither emotionally nor financially. All he does is undermine you, bully you, threaten you, and sulk.

Thank fuck you have your own house.

Leave him and don't look back.

cestlavielife · 28/06/2024 22:45

Which gp or psychiatrist has he seen?
Which gp or psychiatrist knows about his threats to kill himself and what have they suggested?
What therapies and medication is he taking or engaging
Able to go to gym at 4 30 am ?

cestlavielife · 28/06/2024 22:48

And if he chooses to go live in his car for the summer it won't kill him
Make him go
You will be surprised how he manages

BettyBardMacDonald · 28/06/2024 22:48

LoveSandbanks · 28/06/2024 20:24

He’s an emotionally abusive twat. Leave him. He won’t kill himself, he’s an attention seeker and you are NOT responsible for his actions

This x1000.

What a miserable situation for the children.

qwerty14 · 28/06/2024 22:49

Does he work?
If not when you separate he can claim Universal Credit and can rent a bedsit and get the rent paid. You could pay the deposit to get him started and be the guarantor for 6 months to get him set up. He can get sorted as I did with my ex and we are quite happily separated now.

Fraaahnces · 28/06/2024 22:51

Police welfare check every time he threatens this. It soon stops this bullshit.