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He always has to remind me he can’t look at me

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Clearheartsandgreyflowers · 25/06/2024 06:19

My (estranged) husband and I have a long messy history. He has done appalling things that I have not done. What I have done is talk (in non romantic or flirtatious ways) to another man at a large meal and once with a colleague in our home when my husband was awol. I know that second occasion was not ok and can’t be justified (even though nothing happened and I wouldn’t dream of anyway) We now no longer live together. We have children. I am trying to be ‘friends’ and basically not bring up the past (drug abuse, affairs/prostitutes, physical assaults, mismanagement of money etc) but he will regularly bring up and remind me how I disgraced myself as a woman and mother and how he can’t even look at me. I’m not sure how long I can keep hearing these things. I left him and moved away after one final event where he started to threaten to come to my work place (and ended up contacting the wife of a co worker he believed I was having or about to have an affair with-needless to say I was not) he had all the signs of someone having a psychotic break.
my struggle now is how to I move my life like this and what do I do with my kids? I know deep down he is not emotionally well but it just feels awful to be constantly told you have degraded yourself and someone you shared 20 years with can’t even look at you.

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Drizzlebizzle · 25/06/2024 14:59

Is it correct that you no longer live with him? He doesn't have to agree to a divorce, you need to set it in motion. Stop wasting your energy on him - his opinions of you are completely batshit. Ignore him and put your energy in to caring for yourself and children. There is no chance he's ever going to see your pov.

GreigeO · 25/06/2024 15:02

Every time he says he can't look at you, just say 'good', in a flat bland voice, and move on.

CassieMaddox · 25/06/2024 15:03

Clearheartsandgreyflowers · 25/06/2024 06:37

Thank you all sincerely for such prompt responses, part of me knows you’re right I just feel like if I didn’t do that last part about allowing my colleague into my home things would have not fallen apart. I knew men and women couldn’t be friends even though I have had no intention to be anything other but honestly it’s like deep down I knew I needed to do something extreme to cut the ties and be able to be free it just hasn’t worked this way because all he does is insult me but my husband himself won’t walk away and he won’t divorce me. He will threaten it but never do it

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Of course he won't divorce you! You are a great wife, he's a shitty excuse for a man who has managed to con someone for long enough to marry him.

Sex workers, drugs, financial and physical abuse! You deserve SO MUCH BETTER.
I agree with PP. Get a therapist and get angry. Doesn't matter what you did, nothing justifies what he has done to you.

Dearover · 25/06/2024 15:05

There is absolutely wrong in talking to other people. Your colleague is just that, a colleague. As an adult you are entitled to have guests in your own home.

You don't need your ex to agree to a divorce. You just divorce him. It sounds as though you need some legal advice.

DuesToTheDirt · 25/06/2024 15:07

I just feel like if I didn’t do that last part about allowing my colleague into my home things would have not fallen apart.

Firstly, of course you can invite a male colleague into your home.

Secondly, if it did prompt the end of this relationship, that's a good thing. You might not feel that way now, but it really is. Prostitutes, drugs, assaults - you're much better off without him.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 25/06/2024 15:08

sonjadog · 25/06/2024 06:29

That second occasion that can’t be justified? It isn’t anything. You can talk to coworkers in your home. Your ex has manipulated you into believing entirely normal behaviour is wrong. You don’t need to feel even the tiniest bit of guilt for that.

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Absolutely.

Sossijiz · 25/06/2024 15:43

Why would you even want him to look at you? You do not need the approval of someone you are no longer with. Stop trying to be 'friends' with someone who does not have a clue how to interact with another human being. And you can talk to whom you wish, in your home or elsewhere.

Tenaciousbeyondallthings · 25/06/2024 16:16

This is completely bonkers !

My best mate is away with work.. as is my husband.. (well not work as retired but on his boat )

Tonight best mates husband is coming over to watch the footie with me in our very remote house .. kids all grown ..

Does this mean we need an immediate divorce and I must don the sack cloth and ashes ??

Or could it possibly be that we both trust our partners and they trust us .. or are we inevitably going to shag the whole night long ???

Of COURSE people of opposite sexes can be friends . Stop being daft .

Your husband is a complete knob.
Just divorce him and have a normal life .

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