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Am I to blame for my situation?

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Anon1621 · 20/06/2024 20:05

Apologies for the very long post...

I told my husband I wanted to separate in February, but we decided to give it another go for the sake of the kids. He hasn't supported me for years, which I put up with, but since having our second child, it's become a bigger issue. I had terrible post natal anxiety & depression & it's really made me reevaluate my life. He doesn't get up in the morning, does nothing around the house etc. It's been a bit of a running joke amongst our friends about how useless he is, but when you're living it, it's not funny. He also went out to the pub minimum of twice a week, leaving me to do bedtimes etc. He still quite often does.

I realised I'd been unhappy & plodding for a while & started to go out with my friends a bit more - every month - 6 weeks or so. Last summer, I messed up - I ended up chatting to a guy when I was out & we exchanged msgs on social media for a couple of weeks. My husband found out & went crazy - he trashed the house & since then, he watches every move I make. He checks my phone, emails, goes through my bag. When he has a drink he gets angry, calls me names, keeps me awake at night verbally abusing me. I get that I destroyed the trust we had, so I just accept that's what I have to put up with. He says it's what I have to put up with 'for the time being' because of what I've done.

It's made me even more unhappy & in February I ended up kissing a guy when I was drunk one night. That was the reason I tried to finish it as I knew my behaviour wasn't right. It was the worst thing I could ever have done & I will forever feel guilty. He also knows about this & things have gotten even worse. I know I've messed up - I feel like I've let myself & the kids down. I've lowered myself to his level by doing that.

He goes mad if I suggest going out & even stopped me from going out with a friend the other week. He's happy for me to go to a local pub but not into town & he always sets a curfew. Sometimes it's just not worth it though as I get so much grief for even asking to go out.

My family & friends think I'm being emotionally abused - and they know my behaviour has been so out of character. They don't condone what I've done at all, but they also see how unhappy I am. I've tried to tell him again that I think it's over, but he just won't let me go. He says I'll never find anyone who loves me like he does, that I'll be responsible for destroying our kids lives. He says he's not responsible for how I feel - I need to admit that it's all me. He uses my mental health against me a lot - he says I'm 'not well' and I need to admit it. He accused me of having a 'psychotic episode' the other week when I tried to stand up to him & threatened to call the police on me. He's sent me numerous articles on midlife crises etc as he thinks I'm having some sort of breakdown.

He can be horrible to me but then expects us to be intimate as it's his way of him feeling 'close' to me & he says I should be making him feel wanted after what I've done. The next day he can be lovely to me & then I feel guilty & anxious. It's the mood swings that I really struggle with.

I'm just so confused about whether all of this is my fault because of what I've done, and that maybe I deserve it. I just don't know what to do.

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Trinity69 · 20/06/2024 20:08

Why are you with him? He’s an arse and you’re clearly not happy because if you were none of those things would have happened.

ILikeALemonWedgeInMyGin · 20/06/2024 20:11

There's too many issues to list here so I'll summarise, leave him.

Oh and no, it's not your fault and you don't deserve any of the abuse he has given you.

Weepingwillows12 · 20/06/2024 20:13

You are allowed to leave him if you are not happy.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 20/06/2024 20:18

How can you be helped into leaving your abuser?. This man has mistreated you throughout your relationship. It’s no wonder therefore you responded to another man’s attentions. You did not destroy the trust, your h did that by his actions towards you.

The only acceptable level of abuse in a relationship is none. You are in an abusive relationship with him and so this is over. He is currently showing you the nice/nasty cycle of abuse which is a continuous one.

What do you want to teach your children about relationships and what are they learning here?. They cannot afford to learn that their father’s abusive treatment of you is how men treat women.

You should not stay in this relationship for the supposed sake of the kids. It’s neither easier for you or they to stay with him. Staying for the sake of the children is a statement that when further examined does not stand up to scrutiny. please reach out to Women’s Aid who can and will help you further here.

Purplecatshopaholic · 20/06/2024 20:35

It’s not your fault and you don’t deserve it. And your kids certainly don’t. Seek legal advice, tell him it’s over, and move on.

AgreeableDragon · 20/06/2024 20:36

@Anon1621
Please please hear me when I say YOU ARE NOT TO BLAME!
You made one mistake and you husband is now merrily using that mistake to abuse you over, and over again. He is loving the power this has given him.
Everything he does is abusive, and he's using the DCs as a weapon. Trust me, they will be so much better of if you leave him. And you need to leave him ASAP. Please get support from Women's Aid, and leave as soon as you can

SilverDoe · 20/06/2024 20:46

I know this is going to be so hard but you have to realise that he does not get to keep you in a relationship, but will rely on you feeling that he can.

Even if he was a saint (he sounds absolutely awful), even if you had done absolutely nothing out of turn, (you have because you are in an unhappy, unloving relationship), you are allowed to leave him.

I get it's hard when you have a person there to face, when they will say anything and everything to get you to stay. And I get it's extremely hard, with children, to change the status quo.

But you could be happy.

I would honestly speak to your family and make plans to leave. It's good and makes it easier that they are already aware of the dynamic. I would book a day off work if you work or wait till he is gone one day, and just go. If you really think he's going to convince you to stay.

you are at the point of no trust and controlling behaviour, and he is unsupportive to someone he apparently loves "more than anything"

The real reason he doesn't want to leave is nothing to do with you as a person. He has a stable home, childcare and regular sex. All that will change for him if you leave . That's what he cares about.I

If he had any care for you at all, any empathy at all, he would have been looking at his own behaviour too.

Please move on for your own sake and your kids x

vincettenoir · 20/06/2024 20:50

The relationship is toxic. Apportioning the blame is part of the dance that you are stuck in. You need to move on from this and face the fact that neither one of you is happy in the relationship,

Pumpituppump · 20/06/2024 21:14

YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO ANYTHING THIS MAN SAYS.

StrawberryWater · 20/06/2024 21:28

Next time he's out the house grab what you can (important documents and a few changes of clothes) and just leave.

FieldInWhichFucksAreGrownIsBarren · 20/06/2024 22:44

You're clearly very unhappy, you asked for separation then agreed to give it another go. It hasn't worked so time to make that break. He is punishing you for wanting out but masking this by making it about your errors in judgement which, let's be honest, wouldn't have happened if your marriage was a happy one.
Stop his bullshit now and end it.

SheddingCat · 20/06/2024 23:09

I’m with your family and friends on this one. He’s been shit and is only using those few incidents to keep you in line. He sounds horrible actually. No self awareness and understanding of his role in this.

You have to be intimate with him and make him feel wanted because of a random kiss when he treated you as a skivvy? Stuff that. This relationship is over. And it’s not 100% your fault. His behaviour towards you has been abysmal.

You are not psychotic, you are only in a bad place because he put you there in the first place. What’s stopping you getting rid of him?

wrped · 20/06/2024 23:14

leave him

Opentooffers · 20/06/2024 23:19

You need to contact a solicitor. It's not for him to 'let you go', you leave him whether he likes it or not. What's your home/ work DC situation?

Anon1621 · 21/06/2024 07:52

Thank you for the replies everyone x

So back in Feb I contacted an independent mortgage advisor who was brilliant - I explained a little bit about my situation & she told me that her mum is a solicitor who specialises in this kind of separation, so I do have a contact for when I'm ready.

We've been together for 20 years so I'm like part of his family. I'm best friends with his sister, our friends are all linked. Our youngest would be fine (DS is 3) but it will hit our eldest really hard (other DS almost 8) & that worries me so much.

The other issue I have is the nastiness that will come with me leaving. Last time I did, he was vile. I just don't feel strong enough to deal with it, knowing I'd have to live with him until the house is sold. He's made it clear he'd go for 50/50 with the kids which means he would give me less money. He tells me how awful life will be if we're not together - that the boys will have a new step mum eventually, separate Christmases etc. He says I'm not thinking of all of this because I'm being selfish.

If he was horrible all the time I could probably cope with it better. It's the up & down - so yesterday he was lovely, telling me how much he loves me, making jokes etc. I just get so confused.

To everyone else, he's life & soul of the party. Everyone loves him & thinks he's so funny. I would be the bad one - I'd lose a lot of friends but I guess that's the chance I have to take to be happy.

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Fraaahnces · 21/06/2024 07:56

Just go

Bigiciuincailin · 21/06/2024 08:00

Suck up the few chaotic months of transition and get away from this man. Honestly I don’t know how you have put up with it. However being a person who can tolerate a lot of neglect and abuse is not a character trait many would envy nor is it healthy. He is messing with your head, using you, creating chaos in your life. He is not a good one, move on.

OhshutupDerek · 21/06/2024 08:00

Life is way too short to live like this OP. The man is awful, yes life may be harder being separated in terms of co-parenting and finances but the freedom will be worth every bit of sacrifice. Your DC will be fine, it cannot be much worse than growing up in a toxic household.

JasmineTea11 · 21/06/2024 08:02

OP, part of his abuse is to make you feel crazy, so he can undermine and weaken you. Then you end up acting out character because you feel like you are going crazy. Thus he can point at you and say, 'see what I mean?' He's got you trapped in this, you must recognise this, and regain control by leaving.

Zanatdy · 21/06/2024 08:08

Anon1621 · 21/06/2024 07:52

Thank you for the replies everyone x

So back in Feb I contacted an independent mortgage advisor who was brilliant - I explained a little bit about my situation & she told me that her mum is a solicitor who specialises in this kind of separation, so I do have a contact for when I'm ready.

We've been together for 20 years so I'm like part of his family. I'm best friends with his sister, our friends are all linked. Our youngest would be fine (DS is 3) but it will hit our eldest really hard (other DS almost 8) & that worries me so much.

The other issue I have is the nastiness that will come with me leaving. Last time I did, he was vile. I just don't feel strong enough to deal with it, knowing I'd have to live with him until the house is sold. He's made it clear he'd go for 50/50 with the kids which means he would give me less money. He tells me how awful life will be if we're not together - that the boys will have a new step mum eventually, separate Christmases etc. He says I'm not thinking of all of this because I'm being selfish.

If he was horrible all the time I could probably cope with it better. It's the up & down - so yesterday he was lovely, telling me how much he loves me, making jokes etc. I just get so confused.

To everyone else, he's life & soul of the party. Everyone loves him & thinks he's so funny. I would be the bad one - I'd lose a lot of friends but I guess that's the chance I have to take to be happy.

He won’t cope with 50-50 for long, looking after a house, cleaning, cooking etc. Trust me you will do more damage to your kids staying in an unhappy abusive relationship. Yes it will be an upheaval but you’ll manage without him. Have a look on ‘entitled to’ website to see if you’d get any financial support to help. You only get one life and you will regret wasting years in an unhappy marriage when there’s a new life waiting for you outside of this situation. If he does have the kids a lot then you can have a bit of a life aswell as being a mum, chances are, he won’t cope. I’d start taking steps to leave and take a chance on happiness

Epidote · 21/06/2024 08:12

I think your family and friends are correct, I think you are in an abusive relationship.
I also think that you don't want to stay and you are sabotaging it kissing other people. That is a really silly thing to do.
Be sincere with yourself and take control of your life an actions.
Stop kissing people for a start. That won't help how you are felling in the long run. Divorce and stop giving more chances to a relationship that is dead.

Don't fall in a deeper spiral of toxicity.

Bigiciuincailin · 21/06/2024 08:18

Don’t worry about the 50:50. He doesn’t mean it. He is far too lazy for 50:50.

Sconeswithnutella · 21/06/2024 08:24

Run run run. The emotional abuse is insane and he’s conditioning you to question yourself. It’s not you, it’s him. You’re clearly unhappy and have been for a very long time. Also, in my experience “staying for the kids” never works, ever. Kids pick up on negativity and end up walking on egg shells. You’re also teaching your kids what a relationship should look like; this is not what a healthy one looks like and you know it. Get your ducks in a row and get out. Sending you all the strength.

SuncreamAndIceCream · 21/06/2024 08:27

He won't want 50:50

That's a threat to keep you in line

He barely lifts a finger now, it's not going to happen when you split up

Anon1621 · 21/06/2024 09:37

Thanks again for your replies x

It's really helpful to hear other people's perspectives other than family & a couple of close friends.

I do know what I need to do. Our mortgage is just about to go onto interest only for the next 6 months. He requested it in a temper the other week when we had an argument & I said I was unhappy. He said we were over & selling the house. Then the next day he calmed down & said he didn't mean it, but it was too late & the request had already gone through to the mortgage company.

Anyway, I'm going to use this time to sort my finances as best I can.

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