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Am I being controlling ? Or am I setting boundries?

60 replies

MabelsMam · 15/06/2024 19:31

My husbands friend was killed a few years before I met him. He was friends with the wife and weirdly I thought carried a photograph of the friends child in his wallet when we met, he'd go down and stay over at her house swearing nothing ever happened between them. ( the child is now a grown man )
She lived about 2 hours from my husband and she called him daily.
When we met and went on our first holiday together, this woman called 4 times during the week ' just for a chat' I ended up in the bathroom while they laughed and joked on the phone in the bedroom for ages I felt like a spare part.
When I moved across to live with my then boyfriend ( now husband) she would call him and make excuses ' can you come and help with a computer issue' can you come and collect the son and take him to a sports event etc etc ...and he would drop everything and ruining the weekend. ( she had 2 brothers and parents locally thay could help her )
I had to have emergency surgery for an ectopic pregnancy and while I was in theatre she called and asked him to drive down to pick up the son and take him to another sporting event then drive him back home again - she knew I was in surgery and it meant he wasn't there when I woke up infact I didn't see him until the evening the next day.
I know she called him while he was at work most days.
I told him it made me uncomfortable and that i felt he was putting their friendship before our marriage.
He did back off a little but then she started sending him abusive texts when she was drinking which he passed off as nothing.
She caused alot of grief between us and I definately felt she was trying to come between us, he was oblivious to her behaviour and said it was in my head but it was clear she was jealous that I was with him.
Anyway fast forward and last week she died suddenly and yesterday he comes home and tells me our weekend plans were cancelled and he was going to her funeral this morning and would be away all day.
I was so angry and hurt, and said that's fine but when he gets back we need to talk as his behaviour over the years with her and also his obsession with this particular sport has taken priority over our relationship for over 15 years, causing me significant mental health issues- ie disappearing for 10 days the night I came home from an open hysterectomy leaving me alone in the house, doing the exact same thing when I moved countries to live with him, within 12 hours of me arriving disappearing off to this sport event for 10 days. ( this has been an ongoing thing for 15 years)
So I didn't sleep at all last night I was so upset about this funeral, so I said that when he got home we needed to talk and make desicions on our future whether we stayed together or split as I wasn't prepared to put up with the behaviour any longer and the effect it is having on me mentally.
He said he wanted to go and meet up with friends he hadn't seen in years and pay his respects to this woman who quite frankly had never ever shown me any respect as his wife in the last 15 years.
He said my behaviour was controlling- that i was using the relationship as a threat to control him going to the funeral, i consider it setting long needed boundaries ( as discussed when we had marriage counselling - where incidently the counsellor did point out that his behaviour was very selfish and emotionally abusive)

So am I in the wrong for being upset at his insistence on dropping everything and going to the funeral ? He's made me question my own behaviour

OP posts:
SheilaFentiman · 16/06/2024 00:35

PrimaDoner · 15/06/2024 20:37

Him going to the funeral is the one thing that’s reasonable in all of this.

The rest of it – he’s a selfish, inconsiderate prick who doesn’t show basic decency, respect or care towards you.

I’m surprised you’ve stayed with him this long and will be surprised if he changes.

💯

This woman meant something to him and going to the funeral is a big part of grieving.

have a think whilst he is away about whether you want to split up because of his shitty uselessness over the years.

OuijaBoard · 16/06/2024 00:45

You shouldn't still be with this person. I can't tell why the two of you don;'/can't communicate and compromise, but it seems to be a well-established pattern. But as you ARE still together - let him attend his friend's funeral and related events, and have a heart-to-heart later when you both have free time and clear heads.

Catlord · 16/06/2024 06:16

PearlJoker · 15/06/2024 22:05

Your post was really sad to read, it sounds like you have been completely and utterly side lined and disrespected and for what ever reason you seemed to have accepted that as the price to pay for keeping your husband, this is not to blame you it sounds like you have been very lonely, I also don’t blame you for trying in your words to “put a boundary” about the funeral I may well be wrong but it seems you are desperate for him to just put you first just one time and this is your final chance for him “choose you” over her, I’m very sorry I do not think that will happen. You are worth more than this I hope you will see that sooon

This is totally skewed.

She has accepted his behaviour as her worth for years.

The funeral is about paying respects to the deceased and the son as well who has now lost both parents and it sounds the husband was close to growing up. It isn't an appropriate opportunity for laying down boundaries in their marriage with regards to seeing this woman. That time has passed.

She needs to differentiate the two ideas. Revisit after a couple of weeks (don't wait months) for counselling if wished but leave it now.

If you are seeing an individual's death as a relief because that's the only way your marriage is safe, that's very telling and isn't a side to myself I would want marriage bringing out.

PearlJoker · 16/06/2024 09:05

Catlord · 16/06/2024 06:16

This is totally skewed.

She has accepted his behaviour as her worth for years.

The funeral is about paying respects to the deceased and the son as well who has now lost both parents and it sounds the husband was close to growing up. It isn't an appropriate opportunity for laying down boundaries in their marriage with regards to seeing this woman. That time has passed.

She needs to differentiate the two ideas. Revisit after a couple of weeks (don't wait months) for counselling if wished but leave it now.

If you are seeing an individual's death as a relief because that's the only way your marriage is safe, that's very telling and isn't a side to myself I would want marriage bringing out.

maybe don’t quote posts when you don’t seem to understand the context of what’s written. Your comment wasn’t relevant to mine, so there was no need to quote it.

Roseyjane · 16/06/2024 09:09

The woman’s dead. It’s right he goes to her funeral. I can’t fathom why you’d not wish him to. That’s awful.

but you can’t retro set boundaries, that’s ludicrous. The woman is dead.

Grandmasswagbag · 16/06/2024 09:15

It seems weird to me that you'd end your relationship now the woman is dead. You should have done that long ago tbh. You husband clearly cared for this woman whether she was a very good friend or it was romantic. You MUST have accepted that over the years you've put up with it all. It's wrong to deny him the right to go to her funeral and mourn her loss.

Catlord · 16/06/2024 15:34

PearlJoker · 16/06/2024 09:05

maybe don’t quote posts when you don’t seem to understand the context of what’s written. Your comment wasn’t relevant to mine, so there was no need to quote it.

Absolutely was a response to your post. I understood every word and disagreed with it. Is that allowed?

GreyCarpet · 16/06/2024 15:43

OP, your boundaries are for you. They are not about control. So it's not saying," I want you to stop doing x, y, z," but more, "I don't want to be ina relationship with someone who does x, y, z."

It's a subtle difference. But boundaries mean that the other person has a choice. If they are happy to observe your boundaries - great. If not, you are able to make an informed decision to eave the relationship.

They reserve the right to continue doing what they want to do and you reserve the right to not be in a relationship with someome who behaves that way.

Oh and this I had to have emergency surgery for an ectopic pregnancy and while I was in theatre she called and asked him to drive down to pick up the son and take him to another sporting event then drive him back home again - she knew I was in surgery and it meant he wasn't there when I woke up infact I didn't see him until the evening the next day. I'd have ended it for that. He let you know, without a shadow of doubt, where his loyalties lie.

ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 16/06/2024 15:49

I find threads like this bizarre. You felt his relationship was inappropriate with this woman. The relationship existed before your relationship. And yet you carried on dating him and married him and kept telling him he had to change his friendship with her.

You stayed for 15 years through some really poor behaviour.

But now she is dead and he has decided to go her funeral you have threatened ending the relationship.

When people die, plans often change so people can go to a funeral. It’s a really weird time to now decide you might want to end the relationship.

I appreciate it’s uncomfortable for you know this, but she and her husband were a significant part of his life. It’s normal that he wants to go to her funeral. He isn’t going to a funeral to support her.

I think it might be a case of you wanting to leave for a while. You knew you couldn’t get past this, but pretended you did, and now seems like the chance to go over it all again. Maybe too little too late?

ButtonsB · 16/06/2024 15:59

OP, him on the phone to her during your first holiday would have chased most people away.
You have put up with more than 90% of women would have.
You have absolutely wasted 15 years with a very selfish man.
However, making a fuss now when she has died is useless.
He has every right to go to the funeral.
He had every right to keep a photo of a child he was fond of in his wallet.
He had every right to grieve deeply his friend.
However, you wrongly accepted his preference to prioritise his late friends family far ahead of you and your marriage.
Pack your bags, move to a better place and divorce him.

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