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Feeling sad about being told I'm "punching"

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TheresGotToBeMoreToLife22 · 08/06/2024 17:21

I (f 38) saw an acquaintance at a school event today. I took my partner (m 31) with me.

When my partner went to the bathroom, the acquaintance (male, 40ish) said to me "New boyfriend? ... Well done... I think you're punching to be fair"

I just felt a bit taken aback. My partner IS good looking, but to be told so blatantly that I'm not worthy or good looking enough for him stings.

I think men get told they are 'punching' all the time and I don't like to hear that. It's seems unnecessarily cruel.

I just feel flat and a bit sad and ugly 😔

OP posts:
JamSandle · 09/06/2024 15:29

One thing I've learned is often when people are happy in relationships other people try to destroy it for some reason. I let family do this to me. F* 'em!

Nottherealslimshady · 09/06/2024 15:38

I dont consider it rude or insulting, its been said to me, even by my own dad 🤣I'm 100% punching. But then I grew up with that being quite a normal concept/phrase. "Woah he's punching" is practically a compliment.

My DP is bloody gorgeous, I am not, I am punching. But a life partner isn't based on being equally attractive to the opposite sex in general. It's about attraction to eachother, compatibility, sexually and life goals, do you want the same things, do you work for them. DP and I are absolutely perfect for eachother, and yes I am very lucky that my ideal life partner came in such a gorgeous box.

NonPlayerCharacter · 09/06/2024 15:39

Anotherparkingthread · 09/06/2024 15:26

You can't just decide any comment any man makes that to don't like is negging. It undermines the term for an actual behaviour and turns it into no more than the juvenile 'hes only like that because he fancies you' shit that girls were told in school. Which wasn't true then either.

If a man actually insults a woman it can be for number of reasons, only one of which is negging. If a man calls a woman ugly, even in a round about way there's a good chance he may just think she's ugly.

In this situation he was not implying anything about op, but was in fact saying things in the belief he was making a compliment eg 'you have done very well for yourself there'. Almost all men place a lot of value in a partner's attractiveness. It is a fact and it is as old as time. So it was in no way negging, as he meant it as a positive.

I can't explain the intricacy in any simpler terms so if it is still lost on you then there's not much I can do.

You can't just decide any comment any man makes that to don't like is negging.

I didn't. This isn't just any comment that I don't like. You want some examples of other offensive shit men say to women that isn't negging? We'll be here all day. It's quite the repertoire.

But a woman who he doesn't know and is literally there with someone else and he's insulting her looks for no reason? It's classic. It's designed to undermine her self confidence and while he probably didn't think he really had a chance of getting her into bed even if he acted like a human, he clearly saw her, saw a reason she should feel confident, that didn't suit him and...classic neg.

The fact that you're now trying trying to twist it as a compliment to her, even as you claim he really thought she was ugly is actually rather breathtaking. I think that might be the most arse about face twist on it I've ever seen.

If, for some reason, you have never experienced men who want to chip away at the self confidence they assume you must have from looking at you, well, lucky, lucky you. It's a thing. Women experience it. Men write books about it and start Internet subcultures about it. And when we recognise it about 30 years after they gave it a name (it existed before then), we are told we are imagining it, we really are ugly, but take it as a compliment!

Ridiculous.

NewName24 · 09/06/2024 15:46

You are reading it all wrong.

If someone says to you that you are 'punching', it is a compliment. They are saying they like your partner, and you have met a lovely partner, without getting in to fawning about how attractive they are, or something else which would just sound a bit weird to most ears.

I just felt a bit taken aback. My partner IS good looking, but to be told so blatantly that I'm not worthy or good looking enough for him stings.

Nobody has said, or implied this, apart from your imagination.
You perhaps need to work on your own self esteem.

NonPlayerCharacter · 09/06/2024 15:50

If someone says to you that you are 'punching', it is a compliment. They are saying they like your partner, and you have met a lovely partner, without getting in to fawning about how attractive they are

Of course it's not a compliment, except to the partner! They're telling you you're dating someone who is somehow superior to you, usually that they're better looking. Nobody is so socially stunted that they don't know the difference between "good for you, your new boyfriend is fabulous!" and "wow, punching above your weight with that new boyfriend, aren't you!"

So much nonsense telling us that black is white and insults are compliments. I wonder why.

nobeans · 09/06/2024 15:51

NewName24 · 09/06/2024 15:46

You are reading it all wrong.

If someone says to you that you are 'punching', it is a compliment. They are saying they like your partner, and you have met a lovely partner, without getting in to fawning about how attractive they are, or something else which would just sound a bit weird to most ears.

I just felt a bit taken aback. My partner IS good looking, but to be told so blatantly that I'm not worthy or good looking enough for him stings.

Nobody has said, or implied this, apart from your imagination.
You perhaps need to work on your own self esteem.

No that's exactly what it does mean. That you are inferior to your partner

YouJustDoYou · 09/06/2024 15:52

I've been told that to my face too. I'm keenly aware I'm ugly, and he's not. Especially as we've aged together (been together over 20 years), I've just got even more ugly (older, fatter, wrinkles), whereas he's just even more handsome as a silver fox. I can't even compare.

YouJustDoYou · 09/06/2024 15:54

NewName24 · 09/06/2024 15:46

You are reading it all wrong.

If someone says to you that you are 'punching', it is a compliment. They are saying they like your partner, and you have met a lovely partner, without getting in to fawning about how attractive they are, or something else which would just sound a bit weird to most ears.

I just felt a bit taken aback. My partner IS good looking, but to be told so blatantly that I'm not worthy or good looking enough for him stings.

Nobody has said, or implied this, apart from your imagination.
You perhaps need to work on your own self esteem.

No, that's exactly what it means - the colleague was saying op has done well for herself punching above what she should be punching at - ie he's handsome, she's not as attractive.

NonPlayerCharacter · 09/06/2024 16:07

I'd just like to add that adding "you need to work on your self esteem" to a woman, as if she's the problem, right after going arse about face over a man insulting her...is also rather classic behaviour. Man insults woman? Insult was probably true, but it was actually really a compliment, and the woman is the problem anyway because of her self esteem. She should work on that. Why on earth might she have poor self esteem after experiences and follow up experiences like this? Oh, it's a mystery.

Fuck's sake. I can sort of see why some men and a few lucky women don't believe it happens because it's so absolutely pants on head ridiculous that I'd struggle to believe it myself if I didn't see so much of it.

Arconialiving · 09/06/2024 16:27

Wheelbarrowbabe · 08/06/2024 17:31

I think the person who said this to you knew it would put you down and make you feel bad. Therefore, this is the likely motivation of their remark. I doubt their motivation was to share truth(!)

Therefore, I would view this remark as giving you information about the acquaintance or your relationship to them*, not as a truthful indicator of the relative merits of yourself Vs boyfriend!

Having had something stated to you always has an intention based in your reaction, it's very different than accidentally overhearing.

*I can't tell you exactly what that is not knowing them but for example they might be the kind of person who is upset by or jealous of your happiness and gets a kick out of deflating you

This has hit the nail on the head!

FloofPaws · 09/06/2024 16:42

mountaingoatsarehairy · 08/06/2024 17:28

Mate ! Your acquaintance felt threatened by your relationship and wanted to bring you down a peg or two.

or he had fancied you himself.

deffo says more about him than it does about you !

This ... with bells on!

LaBelleEtLeBadBoy · 09/06/2024 17:03

Any chance it could have been good humoured, just intended to say – handsome chap you’ve got there!

Although whatever way you slice it (and even if meant to be light hearted and silly), it is rude

Sunnyandsilly · 09/06/2024 17:21

NonPlayerCharacter · 09/06/2024 14:52

Well it literally is, but for whatever mystical reason, it suits you to have us believe that. Doesn't make it so.

It’s not negging, not in this context.

NonPlayerCharacter · 09/06/2024 17:37

Sunnyandsilly · 09/06/2024 17:21

It’s not negging, not in this context.

It is, but you know what, it actually doesn't matter if he didn't think she was attractive (which I assume is what makes the all important difference because I don't think anyone thinks he expected to take her home). It was most definitely intended to take her down a peg, chip away at her confidence, and in this context, that's the actual point.

Onomatofear · 09/06/2024 18:14

It is negging, whether you recognise it or not. There is not a specific 'context' for negging.

What is going on here is a classic situation of a man seeing a woman (from his point of view) doing better than he himself is at dating and he resents her because of it. Because he's a man - he thinks he should have the upper hand in dating.

So he makes her feel bad - and it worked! It boils down to misogyny.

A man saying it to another man is not the same thing especially if they are friends.

Exdonkeylover · 09/06/2024 19:01

Men will use the term punching to other men as a "well done", always seems to be in a friendly manner and done as a compliment. Maybe not right to say it too a woman, but as others have said, take it as a compliment and feel proud

kanet · 09/06/2024 19:03

Acquaintance is a cunt
that’s all

Arconialiving · 09/06/2024 19:49

Onomatofear · 09/06/2024 18:14

It is negging, whether you recognise it or not. There is not a specific 'context' for negging.

What is going on here is a classic situation of a man seeing a woman (from his point of view) doing better than he himself is at dating and he resents her because of it. Because he's a man - he thinks he should have the upper hand in dating.

So he makes her feel bad - and it worked! It boils down to misogyny.

A man saying it to another man is not the same thing especially if they are friends.

Absolutely!

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 09/06/2024 21:30

having an attractive partner is seen as doing well for yourself.

In some people's value systems, maybe. Shallow people.

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