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Don’t feel like I can cope with him anymore

49 replies

coasp · 03/06/2024 19:24

I don’t know where to begin with this but I’m starting to feel like i’m suffocating. Probably outing but I’m really struggling and need to reach out somewhere.

I met someone a few years ago, thought we were in love, talked about a family, moved in together. We were both late thirties. I became pregnant unexpectedly, though with hindsight it followed a drunken weekend away which was quite uncharacteristic of both of us. We spoke about what to do and proceeded. About four months in he became really unpleasant to be around. I did not react well to this and became very insecure and easily upset with him and worried about the future. This did not help matters and his behaviour got worse. He’d always been a heavy drinker but it got to the point where I couldn’t even really speak to him as he wasn’t comprehending what I was saying most of the time. He got arrested for dangerous driving and at that point I left and moved back to my hometown. As I approached birth I reached out to him and suggested we talk about reconciling, or at least form a friendship for the sake of our child. He ignored me and I later received a letter from a solicitor telling me not to contact him and that he didn’t consider the baby was his (?!?!) and to basically get on with my life.

I claimed maintenance and he paid it after weeks and weeks of procrastination with CMS. CMS even commented that he was an unusual case as he would answer all their calls and say he would pay and then not. It was like he was trying to come across as decent but then not following through. Eventually he started to pay when they said they would otherwise have to take it at source.

A few months later he wanted to see DD. I agreed. I have never wanted any child I had not to see their own dad, it was distressing that I had given birth alone and he had never even see her. We met and he began to see her weekly for a day. I always stayed with them.

Its been pretty awful mentally for me as I’ve been told I ended the relationship and he will let DD know that when she’s older. Most recently he has said he is moving jobs and now will be 5 hours away, he says he will tell DD I could have moved to where he was going and I refused. I have explained to him that I can’t just uproot my life like that and he said ‘well that’s putting yourself first then and not your daughter.’ It makes my head spin. If I ask for anything extra for DD financially he calls me money obsessed and money grabbing. He is a very high earner and he pays around 40 percent of Dd’s overall cost and I pay the rest.

I recently said I don’t think it’s sustainable for me to be around him with Dd and he needs to sort out seeing her himself without me collecting him from train stations etc and he says that I just want to use him for childcare so I can have free time.

I feel like I can’t win at all. To make matters more confusing he can sometimes be really lovely and then it makes me wonder if it’s all in my head? I’m just so confused and sad. All I want is what’s best for DD and I don’t know why he wants to make things so uncomfortable. Is this me? Am I making more of this because I feel resentful about how he left me? I don’t even know anymore

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Springadorable · 03/06/2024 20:36

Well isn't he a gem. If he needs picking up and dropping off and now lives hours away I think you just let the inevitable happen - he gradually sees less of her because it's a hassle for him. He needs to get himself to her to see her. If he won't then he doesn't. As your DD gets older she'll realise what's happened and what a piece of work he is, but I doubt he'll still be seeing her.

AlbertVille · 03/06/2024 20:50

Most recently he has said he is moving jobs and now will be 5 hours away, he says he will tell DD I could have moved to where he was going and I refused.

This really shows you how deluded he is.
The first thing your daughter will reply is “and you could have stayed”. The second thing will be “so you think you get to tell your ex girlfriend where she should live, and insinuate she’s a bad person for not traipsing her life round after you.”
He’s talking shit. And your daughter will work it out. He will be just as feckless and selfish to her as he is to you.’
He’s full of shit and you need to at at t letting him know you can see that.

ThisDreamyTurtle · 03/06/2024 21:49

Ok, he’s manipulating you. Stop contacting him , speak to a solicitor and show every missed child maintenance payment, all his messages etc. document everything. The best option is to go to court.
any communications can go through a third party. I highly doubt he’ll want joint custody, but his threats will go against him.

coasp · 03/06/2024 21:58

@ThisDreamyTurtle he never puts anything bad in emails or texts, he is totally pleasant and polite in messages. I feel so mentally drained.

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TomatoSandwiches · 03/06/2024 22:05

coasp · 03/06/2024 21:58

@ThisDreamyTurtle he never puts anything bad in emails or texts, he is totally pleasant and polite in messages. I feel so mentally drained.

Because everything he does and says is deliberately done to manipulate you, keep you on the backfoot ot knowing what to expect.
The best way to deal with him is to stop overly facilitating his visits by picking him up, just tell him a day each week and time and he can sort it out or not.
Then make sure you only deal with him in emails or texts, never answer the phone to him and don't meet up with him.

Redruby2020 · 03/06/2024 22:10

coasp · 03/06/2024 21:58

@ThisDreamyTurtle he never puts anything bad in emails or texts, he is totally pleasant and polite in messages. I feel so mentally drained.

That is why, because he knows exactly what he is doing. He took assistance in the form of a solicitor and you need to do the same.
Sorry but this is abusive behaviour.
He's doing it because you are not with him and this is his way of dealing with it, not ok not acceptable.
Totally agree that you shouldn't have been 'assisting him' to see his child!
And that where someone is comfortable to do so, that you shouldn't have had to be there whilst he spent time with your daughter.
Oh lol don't worry I've had the 'you just want free time' 😆 so basically these kinds of men have kids to trap the woman, amongst many other reasons and their own deluded brains that operate in such a way.

coasp · 03/06/2024 22:13

Redruby2020 · 03/06/2024 22:10

That is why, because he knows exactly what he is doing. He took assistance in the form of a solicitor and you need to do the same.
Sorry but this is abusive behaviour.
He's doing it because you are not with him and this is his way of dealing with it, not ok not acceptable.
Totally agree that you shouldn't have been 'assisting him' to see his child!
And that where someone is comfortable to do so, that you shouldn't have had to be there whilst he spent time with your daughter.
Oh lol don't worry I've had the 'you just want free time' 😆 so basically these kinds of men have kids to trap the woman, amongst many other reasons and their own deluded brains that operate in such a way.

@Redruby2020 i just can’t understand him saying I caused the end of the relationship because I left him after his behaviour escalated … I tried to get in touch later on and he just ignored it. I don’t know why he wants to twist things even after all he has done, it’s like never ending mental distress

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Beautifulbythebay · 03/06/2024 22:13

The most important thing your dd needs is a dm with good mh.... Let him walk away.. My ex did and dd assured me she hasn't missed out at all.

slaggybumbum · 03/06/2024 22:42

Well done for leaving him. That was your instinct talking.Listen to it now. This man is deluded. He was an abusive alcoholic when his child was in your stomach, he was arrested, he has chosen to take this job.

My friend was with a man with all the same threats, the child saw right through them. Stop enabling the contact- don’t see this abuser. He’ll disappear soon enough and good riddence!

mdinbc · 03/06/2024 22:49

I'm assuming your child is still an infant. he's telling you what he is going to say about you and your relationship with him... well it will be years and years before she has any understanding of anything other than who loves her and treats her well. I wouldn't worry about that yet. You don't need to defend yourself to your daughter. She will live and grow in your house and love and respect you as a mum, no matter what her dad tells her.

Olivia2495 · 03/06/2024 23:06

He says this , he says that. So what? Tell him to shut the fuck up and stop listening to him.

Is it really in your daughters best interest to have contact with an abusive alcoholic who makes her mother upset and anxious? Someone who plans to try to estrange her from you?

I wouldn’t want him anywhere near me or my daughter.

may2724 · 03/06/2024 23:06

Keep a diary

CandyLeBonBon · 03/06/2024 23:11

Personally I'd not have any comms with him that aren't in writing.

He's a nasty manipulative cunt and knows exactly what he's doing to your mh.

Campestris · 03/06/2024 23:19

Thank god he is moving away. I think you need to keep this toxic person out of your life as much as possible.

Redruby2020 · 03/06/2024 23:31

@Redruby2020 i just can’t understand him saying I caused the end of the relationship because I left him after his behaviour escalated … I tried to get in touch later on and he just ignored it. I don’t know why he wants to twist things even after all he has done, it’s like never ending mental distress

That is classic abusive behaviour, you are in the wrong for not putting up with their c*ap, no, they are wrong and they try to turn it on the other person.
You did what you could.
Things will improve it just takes time, but whilst you have been going through all of this, it's understandable that you will feel the way you do.

Catoo · 03/06/2024 23:32

As PP have said, it’s good he’s moving away.
Stop taking your daughter to see him.
His choice to be an abusive alcoholic. His choice to behave badly and get arrested. His choice to move.

Your choice was to remove your daughter from a potentially abusive childhood.

Grey rock from now on. No long conversations. If you must meet him with DC, take a friend or family member so he can’t talk to you alone. Need to know basis only on text. Ignore any manipulative messages. Only respond to essential ones. Keep responses simple. ‘Yes, no, ok’.

Life will get better when he’s further away.

Agree with PP about diary.

INeedAnotherName · 03/06/2024 23:37

All I want is what’s best for DD

The best thing you can do is stop facilitating her seeing her sperm donor. He is abusive, he is manipulative, he is controlling. He is not kind, he is not caring, he is not supportive. He is NOT father material. Unless court ordered keep her away. Unless you want her to spend the next thirty years having therapy.

Hotgirlwinter · 03/06/2024 23:44

What is best for your daughter is to keep her away from this absolute trash man.

Hes fully abusive, this isn’t just a bit of a useless dad who can’t quite get his shit together to be a decent partner or parent, this is a fully manipulative, abusive, controlling scum bag.

Hes moved 5 hours away? Thank fuck!!! This is your chance to build a life that doesn’t include him. Change your number, delete your socials and pray he loses interest.

Seriously he is not a good person, you have every right, in fact you have a responsibility to keep him away from your child. Block, stop engaging and if you can I’d definitely access some therapy

coasp · 03/06/2024 23:51

he is actually good to her when he sees her. Buys her genuinely thoughtful gifts and tries to teach her things etc. I can’t deny she loves being with him. This is why I find it so hard and don’t know how to handle it all

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INeedAnotherName · 04/06/2024 00:32

An abusive man can also come across as nice and loving. How else do you think they can get a partner? But once that partner starts disagreeing or "causing problems " is when the abuse starts. You haven't mentioned her school (or school friends) so I'm guessing she's 4/5 years. Most children gain independence and attitude around that age.

He is not a nice or kind man. He is screwing you over and deliberately messing with your head. He will do that to her at some point. He's already threatened to do it so believe him. If he's moving away 5 hours then let him, he can figure out if he wants to come see her rather than a young child having to travel 5 hours to see him.

Noseybookworm · 04/06/2024 01:00

Sorry OP that you picked an absolute prize wanker to have a baby with. Now your poor daughter is stuck with him as a father for the rest of her life. He sounds absolutely vile and I wouldn't want him anywhere near me. Tell him if he wants to see his daughter he can come and collect her and spend the day with her. Don't get involved in any discussion about your past relationship/what he's going to tell her when she's older/whatever other bollocks he goes on about. Just refuse to engage with it. Hopefully he'll move away and stop bothering to visit DD - best case scenario, neither of you have to see him again.

ThisDreamyTurtle · 04/06/2024 05:50

Record him if he does it by phone or in person in the meantime , but you do need to see a solicitor and stop contact with him.

coasp · 04/06/2024 06:03

he can be really pleasant sometimes but then other times will come out with awful comments like I just want him for childcare etc which is totally untrue as I’m doing everything everyday while he’s not around. Even when he sees dd ive packed the bag and bought the nappies etc. I feel constantly confused with how I should approach things. He says if I was a good mother I would move and not expect him to travel so far. I work remotely so he thinks that would be fair. I only moved where we are now because he didn’t want to speak to me as i approached birth, so I had to set up home somewhere… I feel like I’m always going to be painted as someone awful no matter what I do

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singlemum93 · 04/06/2024 06:26

I don't think you're paying attention to what anyone is saying on this thread. Is he on the birth certificate? Listen please stop mulling over what you have /haven't done wrong. You've done nothing wrong that's why it feels confusing. Men like this just want to make you feel like shit abuse and gaslight you. It doesn't matter how good he is with DD sometimes his behaviour towards you her mother says otherwise. Lessen the contact. Your daughter doesn't need an abusive man in her life. Stop spending her childhood worrying about him and enjoy your life and your child. Get a solicitor. Thank god he has moved miles away. Do you really want to share your daughter with this man and leave her alone with him knowing what kind of a person he is?
Stop thinking about the situation in terms of emotion and start thinking logically. Only contact him through message/ email as others have said and don't encourage the communication hopefully it will stop when he finds someone else to manipulate.

Mollyplop999 · 04/06/2024 06:32

singlemum93 has said it all. Stop going over what has happened and thknk if your child.