What would you make of this?

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We are on holiday, checked my husband's phone to find this emoji🥲 not in contacts, no other messages.
How do I find who sent it if it's not on his contacts short of calling them and what could I say they aren't going to say who they are.
I was having such a nice time too 😭

Well yes, I've caught him messaging others a few years ago.
We have 360 so I don't think he's having an affair but could be emotional

I would read that as “missing you” type emoji sorry OP.

It could be completely innocent, it could be a wrong number for a start!

Save the number in your phone as a random contact, often the photo will show up.

If he has form for inappropriate messaging or cheating then of course you’d be in two minds. Hope it all works out!

I'll save the contact and see if it throws anything up.
So disappointed 😞

Yeh see what pic comes up when you put in contacts & look on WhatsApp if pic is vague call from withheld number & see who answers. Bearing in mind if it’s a women doesn’t automatically mean this is suspicious. Keep us posted & we can support you!

honestly if you are at the stage of looking at his messages and freaking out about a single emoji... I think you know what the answer is.

What do you mean by 'we have 360'?

@OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon it's obvious really about the history. There is almost always more to what seem to be isolated incidents posted about on MN.

No photos in wassap, I'm not surprised as they could have set for those who are in their contacts only .
So even if I show him this he'll deny said it's a wrong number but it just feels so off most people store their contacts don't they?
I don't have any evidence other than this. I will call but chances are if I with hold they not pick up
I don't know what else to do.
I've ruined my holiday 😔 my own fault.
I think they meant to put a missing you face and put phew instead, the fact that is nothing else shows it's been deleted and why is that??

Can you get a friend to call using their number?

Yes, do this and mention your DH name and see what happens

I have messages in WhatsApp from numbers I don't have stored - from people who are in a group chat I'm in. That alone doesn't mean anything.
The fact he has history would make me suspicious though. (Well, it would have made me dump him at the time)

Try the phone number in Facebook. If saved to a profile depending on their settings they may come back. This may work on LinkedIn too. (Before you try it on LinkedIn check your own settings so they can’t see you searched them. This means you can’t see who searches you)

About 5 years ago, messaging other women, one was arranging a coffee at her house which I found really odd, anyway he said he wouldn't do it again.....

Nothing in either of these.

Op you need to get a grip!

Do you think you can change this man? That’s a fools game.

This is the life you choose staying with a cheater, always second guessing, always never quite knowing. No man is worth that drama.

You need to take some responsibility for the choice you made. This is going to continue to be your life until you leave, all that angst and for what? You know his already cheating if he has a history, why do you need to catch him red handed? His not going to care, he loves the game and the girls, you’re the looser.

The op is absolutely not a loser.

However, perhaps since you don't trust him (for good reason, it seems) and you are uncomfortable with this latest discovery, perhaps it's time to have a frank and open discussion about your future together.

I mean, it doesn't look healthy right now.

I hope you find some sort of resolution.

I feel like a total loser, I don't even have any friends I can ask to call that number.
I'm insecure and know the fundamentals of a relationship are missing here because I can't trust him, yet I love the man but can't see him not being in my life.
I had a huge upheaval a few years ago (which hasn't helped with trust issues though this wasn't infidelity) and he was like a second chance at happiness for me, so I gambled late in life and here I am feeling wrecked and undecided about my future which I don't feel great about, I don't think I can go through all of that again.

You are not a loser.
But you don't trust him, and you have got good reason not to trust him.
So I don't see how the relationship is sustainable- you're unhappiness is only going to get worse.
I agree with pp that you need to have a frank conversation with your DH because as things stand your suspicions are just eating away at you.

Happiness should not be dependent on other people.

This man, not any other man, is not the key to your happiness. People can add or detract pleasure, joy etc but they cannot - and shouldn't be saddled with feeling that - be responsible for others' happiness.

You yourself are the key to your happiness.

I said you’re the looser (as in he won’t care about getting caught because he loves the game, the girls, the thrill of the chase so it doesn’t matter to him. In this game he has tangled you up in, you will always be the looser.)

I did not say you’re a loser as in personality wise.

You’re not a loser, you will have enough of all this shit at some point and move on, then you will look back and wish you done it sooner, stop wasting your life on this man.

I’ve said looser and loser so many times I’ve forgotten how to spell 😳

It could be "phew" work stuff he left a file for someone who needed it.

It's one emoji

One emoji from an unsaved number

Surely he would save a number he is in regular contact with? He could have had a work conversation and someone at work sent a "phew" as in found it to him to let him forget about it, who knows?

OP enjoy the rest of your holiday
Perhaps have some chilled conversations saying you are feeling a bit insecure for no particular reason at the moment. See what he says, let him talk, just listen. People expose more than they like if you give them space to talk.

If he is genuinely interested in trying to make you feel more secure you will know.

If nothing else enjoy the sun, eating out, no chores, buy a book if need be, go and see something new, don't let one emoji spoil some rest and recuperation. The emoji nonsense if it is nonsense will still be there when you get home.

When you get home I would advise doing a bit more for you, find some things to do friends might grow from. You need more in your life than just him. People bounce back from losing everything in natural disasters (extreme I know) but this is one emoji, try and forget about it for now.

If you call the number but put 141 first it will withhold your number and come up on theirs as Private Number.

It could well be innocent OP. Try and talk to him.

I'm thinking it might be an old gf, reason I say this is that I found a deleted photo of someone holding a baby, about my age, I think I know who it is.
Now this is probably innocent but it's the concealment of it, why not tell me, I also found on the same date of the deleted photo was a search of her workplace.
Feeling sick that he's so secretive.

I might try this if they pick up say oh is that?? Then end the call? Probably won't pick up though.