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OLD - are most men after one thing?

77 replies

onlinedating · 07/05/2024 17:51

I'm 40 and dating men around my age. Is that the problem? Do I need to be going older? It seems men are dating aimlessly, looking for that fake and meaningless 'spark', and casual shagging?

I've been dating for 10 months and it's absolutely horrendous.

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Justanaveragemother · 07/05/2024 18:00

Honestly, most men on these dating sites doesn't matter about age they are mostly after one thing or they tend to be not as genuine as they make out ,when you actually meet them.Some just want to be chatting and not bothered about meeting up, which is a waste of time imho.

occhiazzurri · 07/05/2024 18:02

I think going older will change things - most men you will meet over 40 are after casual sex. Those who are after relationships/looking to start a family are dating women who are 5+ years younger. I suggest you join the dating thread where you can see pretty similar experiences.

onlinedating · 07/05/2024 18:09

Thanks occhiazzurri so you suggest I go for men aged 45+ ?

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tridento · 07/05/2024 18:11

occhiazzurri · 07/05/2024 18:02

I think going older will change things - most men you will meet over 40 are after casual sex. Those who are after relationships/looking to start a family are dating women who are 5+ years younger. I suggest you join the dating thread where you can see pretty similar experiences.

So you think men who are older and don't want to start a family don't want a commitment and just want casual sex?

SamW98 · 07/05/2024 18:19

Don’t go older they’re just as bad if not worse.

Im in my 50’s and the men my age on OLD are like sex obsessed teenagers on heat.

So avoid unless you want a gallery of grandad dick pics

occhiazzurri · 07/05/2024 18:24

@tridento - this is the experience of 5-6 single late 30s-to late 40s women who have tried OLD but also met divorced 40s (mainly men) IRL. Not a single one has found a relationship over the past few years from OLD. If there are any 40/50s men who are not only after casual sex, then I don’t know what universe they exist in because neither I nor my friends have met them.
@onlinedating - from my personal experience, 45+ is even worse so I definitely don’t suggest it. I just don’t think you will get much other than casual sex from OLD so I wouldn’t bother. I sporadically try for a few weeks (over a four year period now) and it is all the same - blank profiles, lots of looking for intimacy without commitment, polyamory, looking for casual and fun dates.
I have also found that so many men over 45 lie about their age - it is nearly one in every two/three profiles- that I just don’t see a point in sifting through so much deception.

Lookingforunicorns · 07/05/2024 18:53

No no no to older men. They are generally hideous on OLD and feel entitled to women 10 years younger than themselves. That despite being often overweight and unattractive themselves.
Date your own age or younger. You would be better off looking in real life. Decent guys don't need to use OLD

onlinedating · 07/05/2024 18:55

occhiazzurri so you're saying not to bother with OLD at all?

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onlinedating · 07/05/2024 18:56

Date your own age or younger. You would be better off looking in real life. Decent guys don't need to use OLD

Sadly I don't meet any men in real life

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Lookingforunicorns · 07/05/2024 19:08

Well you need to try new things. Hard if you have kids I know. I'm living it.
Men are at sports clubs, golf and cycling are good bets. Maybe walking clubs but they're a bit female heavy. Also Warhammer clubs so I've heard.
Decent good looking men with intelligence (both emotional and academic) are not on OLD. They are either married or they don't need to look for dates online.
Personally I've had to give up for now because I don't have the time to dedicate to integrating into new clubs or activities ( I have the kids mostly) Faced with being single or putting up with the quality of men online, staying single is the only realistic option for me.

occhiazzurri · 07/05/2024 19:10

I don’t think relying on OLD is good for your mental health. It is incredibly hard work to meet people IRL but I would put my energy into expanding IRL approaches. I haven’t been successful so far but at least I am meeting lots of new people and enjoying the process. It is up to you if you want to continue with OLD - plenty of comments on the dating thread for you to mull on.

@Lookingforunicorns - I completely agree with your comments. I do think that anyone relationship oriented is so rare at this age that they must have a queue of single women in real life waiting for them so they don’t even need to try OLD. Let’s say someone at my workplace who is 40s/50s gets divorced or widowed - they will probably have 5-10 single women to date only from work, not to mention their kids school, social clubs, clients etc.

SallyWD · 07/05/2024 19:15

I really don't think all these men are only looking for sex. I know plenty of older men who'd love to meet someone. Of course they want sex but they also want companionship, a life partner.

onlinedating · 07/05/2024 19:19

SallyWD sadly I've met so, so many men and they pretend they're looking for a relationship but disappear after sex or when you don't put out. that's the experience of all my girlfriends as well.

Every day, I'll get hundreds and hundreds of likes from men who want 'casual' or 'intimacy without commitment' and maybe 1-2 who are looking for a relationship.

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Rania78 · 07/05/2024 19:22

SallyWD · 07/05/2024 19:15

I really don't think all these men are only looking for sex. I know plenty of older men who'd love to meet someone. Of course they want sex but they also want companionship, a life partner.

That’s my experience as well. Of course they want sex but so do I. That’s healthy. Why do we demonise lovemaking?
I have met good men on OLD, dated someone for 2 months, but of course finding a life partner is a bit more complicated. Chemistry, wanting th same things. It’s not easy, but there is a Jack for every Jill out there.

supercali77 · 07/05/2024 19:30

They do exist on OLD, but it took me 3 years and some outrageous situations and men before I met one who was decent and that I fancied.

onlinedating · 07/05/2024 19:32

Why do we demonise lovemaking?

I certainly don't. But I have been made to feel like a piece of meat by the large majority of men I have dated unfortunately. And 'sex' not 'lovemaking' is all they seem to want in my experience. The dating apps have become sex apps for men it seems.

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Littlebitpsycho · 07/05/2024 19:45

Ewww the phrase 'lovemaking' makes me want to barf 🤮🤮

I don't necessarily think it's true that decent men don't need to do OLD, some of them just aren't confident to approach women in real life.

I've been with my partner nearly 3 years and he's wonderful - he said he didn't get many matches online and worried it was because he's not English (although speaks fluently). He said he wouldn't dare approach an English women in person in case they were mean about it.

Luckily I don't date English men so it all worked out for the best. He works hard, makes me laugh, and tries his best to look after us (even if he must send photos of every single fish he catches when fishing, and then give the whole story behind each catch afterwards!)

Spratt · 07/05/2024 19:55

In my experience, mostly yes. The ones that aren’t seem to have issues, impotence/mental health problems. Not sure which is worse option.

Deargodletitgo · 07/05/2024 19:59

Wow, what a negative attitude. I went on Tinder looking for whatever came along, a sexual connection, a relationship connection, whatever felt right. Found a relationship, but I certainly didn't go into it expecting the worse. Maybe that's why I had a positive experience?

labracadabras · 07/05/2024 20:00

onlinedating · 07/05/2024 17:51

I'm 40 and dating men around my age. Is that the problem? Do I need to be going older? It seems men are dating aimlessly, looking for that fake and meaningless 'spark', and casual shagging?

I've been dating for 10 months and it's absolutely horrendous.

I was on and off it for a couple of years. Most men wanted sex. I made it clear that wasn’t on the table to start with.

Had all sorts of dates including one or two who ending up revealing they were married but kicked into the spare room. Any hint of sex talk up front was a no.

I started many conversations and ended them if they didn’t pick up on something I said and ask me a question back. So for example - if they said - how was your weekend going? (Bit boring but ok) I’d say - yes planning to watch The boat race or whatever - your plans? And I saw on your profile you are interesting on cycling - are you going out for a ride - what’s the weather like?

if they replied something like. Weather looks good going out Saturday but didn’t actually ask me or pick up something I said - I cut it off.

if they said something on their profile eg I like reading but couldn’t answer the question what was the last book you read? It was a no

if they had a mental ex or going through a separation or divorce it was a no etc

etc I met a few

I always gave them at least one date unless they had a red flag during the date

Over a year of looking with a 3 month break I am now on an exclusive relationship. He’s nice, kind, normal, and rather than spouting he is a feminist etc his actions show it. He is compassionate and empathetic and I have met his friends. He was a 55 year old looking for someone 50-60. He’s told me what’s going on with him, what he wants. After many texts we had a few phone calls and then met and then arranged a next and then he asked me if I was interested in dating properly and as I have two children and he has one grown up child, we agreed I might meet his sooner than he met mine but also that it was important to actually meet regularly and I think he said something like … we both work full time and your time with your children at the weekend is important too. But shall we try to meet once a week even if it is for a cup of tea together pending children and parenting etc

A natural friendship bloomed on mutual interests, a genuine want to get to know each other and a spark …… but it’s still relatively early days / months and I really like him. We do laugh a lot but both of us agree friendship is vital. He’s into good communication …
I might be on here reporting in a weeks time he has a gambling issue but fingers crossed 🤞

I would advise you to find a connection and build on it - and have very very high standards. If they didn’t communicate or ask stuff I ended it. If they ‘harassed me’ eg 6 messages without a reply - again shut it down. I was very demoralised at time and came off and back on but it is a numbers game. But probe gently and at a red flag - run - just finish it.

labracadabras · 07/05/2024 20:02

SallyWD · 07/05/2024 19:15

I really don't think all these men are only looking for sex. I know plenty of older men who'd love to meet someone. Of course they want sex but they also want companionship, a life partner.

This as well. Mine does but not just sex with anyone. He does want a friend first and a lover second but wants both.

SamW98 · 07/05/2024 20:04

onlinedating · 07/05/2024 19:32

Why do we demonise lovemaking?

I certainly don't. But I have been made to feel like a piece of meat by the large majority of men I have dated unfortunately. And 'sex' not 'lovemaking' is all they seem to want in my experience. The dating apps have become sex apps for men it seems.

That’s my experience as well. I’ve met a couple of nice enough men who unfortunately I wasn’t attracted to but the vast majority have been sleazy creeps.

Ive only actually got to the meeting stage with a handful as most of them show they’re just after hook ups and/or sex chat within a few messages. And every single one of them was 50+ and claimed they were looking for a relationship on their profile.

Im very first I’m not looking for a hook up, ONS or casual sex - doesn’t stop them trying though.

I honestly went into this hoping for a nice dating experience but it’s been hideous.

Telemakus · 07/05/2024 20:04

Choose better

ringmybe11 · 07/05/2024 20:09

I met DH OLD. I experienced what you're describing on bumble and tinder so i decided to pay for one thinking that only people serious about finding a relationship would do that. That paid off and I met DH quickly on e harmony, no red flags, everything just seemed to flow and felt right. I know that's no guarantee of success but it worked out for me.

SamW98 · 07/05/2024 20:13

Spratt · 07/05/2024 19:55

In my experience, mostly yes. The ones that aren’t seem to have issues, impotence/mental health problems. Not sure which is worse option.

Yep or more baggage then Gatwick.

The one guy I met who I was attracted to and we had a real connection told me after a few dates he has permanent ED.

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