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Can someone help me identify what is wrong here?

71 replies

KhakiBear · 20/04/2024 19:53

I feel really embarrassed and guilty to be posting here about this but I feel like I'm going out of my mind, I can't talk to anyone in real life out of loyalty to my DP but since we got together the relationship has been a rollercoaster and I need to make some sense out of what I am feeling.

This might be a long post so apologies in advance but thank you to anyone who can help...

The start of the relationship was incredible, I felt like I had met my soulmate. We have a lot in common and he treated me so good, we spent all our time together, had deep conversations about everything and I really felt I could trust this person. He told me he struggled to trust women after his past relationships ending badly and felt he could open up to me easy. He sent me flowers, took me on trips and made me feel so loved. I think that was the best I'd ever felt in my life as I just felt so wanted and loved, nobody had ever made me feel like that before.

A few months into the relationship things started to feel.. different but I overlooked them at the time. There were a few incidents involving what I just thought was insecurity and ignored this.

Since then there have been some issues that I can't seem to get over and I feel like I'm going crazy or that I'm the problem.

  • If I didn't text back quickly whilst out with family or friends I would be accused of ignoring him
  • Checking my location on Snapchat, screenshotting this and trying to trick me in conversation to see if I'd lied about where I'd been (I told the truth...)
  • Accusing me of having people/someone round whilst he was at work if I'd tidied up whilst he was getting ready to go to work
  • Telling me I am being hard work because he wanted to order a takeaway when I wasn't hungry despite me telling him to order one without me
  • Getting in a mood with me when I was talking about an event at work that was away because I "obviously wanted to be away" from him even though I didn't volunteer or say anything to suggest I wanted to go
  • If I ever raise an issue (like any of the above for example) he will say I've fabricated this to cause an argument or I am triggering him on purpose to get a reaction
  • I was upset and scared about something (not relationship related) and he said there's always something wrong with me and he doesn't have any capacity to deal with my problems because he was stressed too and you feel you can't talk to me about things even though I ask you every day how you're feeling and I've never once told him that I don't have capacity or can't help him with anything you're struggling
  • When I have expressed my feelings about him being hurtful or controlling, he says I'm painting a picture of him in my head that isn't true and I'd get a surprise if I was in a relationship with someone who was actually not very nice

There are more things of course but I am starting to feel like I'm the problem, it's always very hot and cold and I feel like I can't do anything right.

Please be kind I am feeling quite vulnerable. Thank you...

OP posts:
Sceptical123 · 20/04/2024 20:22

KhakiBear · 20/04/2024 20:15

I feel really stupid and it feels like my life is a lie. Do you think he knows he's doing it? Is it even possible to treat someone like this on purpose, why would you do it?

Please don’t feel stupid OP, in no way is it your fault.

He may have a narcissistic personality disorder. It isn’t you it is definitely him.

Some people are on the look out for people to abuse, it’s nothing detrimental to your character that he happened to choose you. Just grave ill fortune.

I hope you can extricate yourself quickly and effectively from the relationship x

KhakiBear · 20/04/2024 20:22

We have been together 2 years, I think the first incident (not spoken about here) happened 3/4 months in but I overlooked it as it seemed to be a one off but then of course months later other things started happening.

We live together. Does anyone have any advice for me to disengage? Any time I have left the room in the past I am accused of stonewalling

OP posts:
princessbeetroot · 20/04/2024 20:23

Do you own the home together? Rent?

If it's yours you need to get him to leave, which will be hard and maybe dangerous. If it's his, brilliant, you leave and never look back. Sty with friends or family if you have to.

If it's shared then it's harder and you might need to tread carefully.

princessbeetroot · 20/04/2024 20:26

Advice for how to manage things will depend very much on how sure you are that things won't get violent.

But yes, if you are very sure you are physically safe, then stonewall him. Grey rock, grey rock, grey rock. Remain lighthearted and civil until you can leave but try to disengage emotionally because he will probably escalate the horribleness before you can go and you might have to just endure that.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 20/04/2024 20:28

You haven't married him or had children with him - have you.

Do you rent or own the property ?

once you have sorted out the above

LEAVE !!! or throw him out.

You ARE NOT the toxic person.

do not over think it all, he is not worth it.

GreatTheCat · 20/04/2024 20:29

Leave him. You are in a abusive relationship.

It's not you.

mewkins · 20/04/2024 20:29

KhakiBear · 20/04/2024 20:22

We have been together 2 years, I think the first incident (not spoken about here) happened 3/4 months in but I overlooked it as it seemed to be a one off but then of course months later other things started happening.

We live together. Does anyone have any advice for me to disengage? Any time I have left the room in the past I am accused of stonewalling

Make a plan and if possible, enlist help. If safe and it's your home tell him he needs to go by xxxx. He may well manipulate, try to convince you that the problem is all yours and that he isn't going to leave because it's not what you really want. Tell a close friend or family member everything and ask them to come round to support you and ensure he goes. He will be relying on you being too embarrassed etc but be firm and decisive.

pikkumyy77 · 20/04/2024 20:30

KhakiBear · 20/04/2024 20:15

I feel really stupid and it feels like my life is a lie. Do you think he knows he's doing it? Is it even possible to treat someone like this on purpose, why would you do it?

Don’t waste any time analyzing yourself—just get out. If you realized you were in a forest fire you would run first and only stop to consider next steps and best practices later. (Note to self: RUN. Next time, avoid forest fires.)

KetoAveitO · 20/04/2024 20:34

Reading these threads makes me feel relieved that I have chosen to remain single for a reason.

Manipulation isn't always down to narcisstic PD, it's just toxic/abusive or he may be a real psychopath.

Nonewclothes2024 · 20/04/2024 20:39

KhakiBear · 20/04/2024 20:07

I have wondered if I am the toxic person and I am causing all this

No you're not. It's him.
You love the idea of him , who he was at the beginning is not who he is. He was acting to trap you.

Prelapsarianhag · 20/04/2024 20:41

Mate, you are not stupid or toxic, you are clearly really fucking nice. This man is an abuser, and he is good at it. Don't be too nice to run.

Fannyfiggs · 20/04/2024 20:44

SamW98 · 20/04/2024 20:17

He’s a narcissistic gaslighting abusive controlling manipulative cunt.

He love bombed you to term you in but now his true colours are showing and the red flags are flying like mad.

How long have you been together OP? Because it’s pretty standard for the true colours to show after about 4-6 months because that’s how long the act lasts

He’s a narcissistic gaslighting abusive controlling manipulative cunt

I couldn't have put it better myself.

I know it's not easy to end a relationship and he'll probably try to reel you back in but you need to leave him. For your own sanity and safety, leave him.

CharlieUniformNovemberTangoYankee · 20/04/2024 20:44

He says I'm painting a picture of him in my head that isn't true and I'd get a surprise if I was in a relationship with someone who was actually not very nice

'Actually not very nice'? What, worse than him? He's an abusive, controlling bastard - is that not bad enough?

There are a multitude of reasons why men like this act the way they do. Don't waste your energy trying to suss this one out, he won't change and is likely to get worse. Don't wait for that to happen, get out now. You deserve so much better than him.

Prelapsarianhag · 20/04/2024 20:48

Mate, just wanted to add. I am in my seventies and I have seen a lot of cunts in my life - and this bloke is someone that only causes harm. Just who he is.

existentialpain · 20/04/2024 20:56

He is a classic narcissist. My ex was exactly the same. The love bombing initially followed by the controlling behavior. Narcissists mess with your head so the fact you are doubting yourself is part of the abuse. Even the fact he is amazing and lovely other times is part of it. My ex could charm the pants off anybody but he could turn in an instant. Everything I said was twisted back at me and he had a remarkable talent for making me blame myself.

Please leave before he absolutely destroys you.

fromaytobe · 20/04/2024 21:00

KhakiBear · 20/04/2024 20:22

We have been together 2 years, I think the first incident (not spoken about here) happened 3/4 months in but I overlooked it as it seemed to be a one off but then of course months later other things started happening.

We live together. Does anyone have any advice for me to disengage? Any time I have left the room in the past I am accused of stonewalling

He's accusing you of stonewalling? Look up DARVO (deny, attack, reverse victim and offender) because that's what he is doing to you.

LeavesOnTrees · 20/04/2024 21:00

He's a controlling narcissist. There is nothing you can do.
You can't change him, the initial love stage wasn't the real him and it won't be coming back no matter what you do.

Run.

Bananalanacake · 20/04/2024 21:01

Did he pressure you to move in too quick. Can you move out soon, don't waste time with a controlling bastard. How would he react if you told him you're going on a weekend away with a group of friends, a normal guy would say, great, have a nice time.

Ukholidaysaregreat · 20/04/2024 21:03

He is a bastard. You are better off out of it.

Waitingfordoggo · 20/04/2024 21:05

KhakiBear · 20/04/2024 20:07

I have wondered if I am the toxic person and I am causing all this

Well this is a big clue right here. You are questioning yourself because he has messed with your head. If you were truly toxic, you wouldn’t be wondering if you were toxic. And if you were the one causing all the problems, he could just leave you couldn’t he?

In my experience, people who say this are usually the abusive one. I had all this with my first boyfriend when I was 16 (he was 19). I was the problem, I was mad etc. Took me a long time to realise it was the other way around.

thisisasurvivor · 20/04/2024 21:05

SevenSeasOfRhye · 20/04/2024 19:57

Controlling abuser, get out now.

X100

I needed clever Mn posters to spell it out to me too

Run OP

Why take this utter shit?

CC222 · 20/04/2024 21:05

This is abuse.
He love bombed you at the start.
He is now gaslighting, controlling and manipulating you.
Please seriously consider how long you're willing to stay in this relationship, the abuse will only continue to get worse the longer you're in this relationship.
You are not crazy, that's his gaslighting making you feel this way. Your gut is telling you something is really wrong here, trust it...

CC222 · 20/04/2024 21:08

KhakiBear · 20/04/2024 20:07

I have wondered if I am the toxic person and I am causing all this

You're not causing this at all. But you could be accepting toxic abusive partners because of a low self esteem or not valuing yourself enough. If that is something you want to address, therapy will help.
But you definitely deserve better than how he is treating you. It's not normal.

Knockerknocker · 20/04/2024 21:11

He lovebombed you and then his mask slipped. He’s a controlling abuser and probably was in his previous relationships too.

Pointshopgirl · 20/04/2024 21:17

I’ve been through this roller coaster myself with a past ex and boy have I got the T shirt.
I’m sorry to say OP but you need to run for the hills and fast. This relationship will only eat away at your mental health while you start to question your own sanity. End it as soon as you can and go strictly no contact with him is my advice.
Be strong - you are worth more than this.