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Husband having inappropriate conversations with IG model

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Wildflower90 · 20/04/2024 18:03

Hi there, I am new to this forum and hoping to get some perspective on a situation that has been upsetting me.

My (33F) husband (39M) and I have been together for 10 years and have 2 kids together. We have had arguments in the past about his social media usage - a couple of years ago, he subscribed to an OF model and kept making extremely sexual comments on her photos for the world to see but after we argued, he stopped following provocative accounts. (But some slip through the cracks)

He is always glued to his phone and the other day, he left Instagram open on his computer. I know I should not have snooped, but based on past experiences, I couldn't not look and found conversations with several women.

One woman in particular he has been messaging every single day for the past 10 months and ALL of their conversations are sexual. This woman lives on the other side of the world, looks like a supermodel, and has 25,000 followers but for some reason, she is following him back and the conversation is two-sided.

He has not hidden the fact that he is married and he has made reference to me throughout their conversations, but he is constantly bombarding her with pornographic sexual memes and jokes, they often chat about what sex act is depicted in the meme (his love of BJs/her saying it's a special skill she has - eyeroll ), their past sexual experiences, talking about their msturbation habits and what positions they like. He told her he bought a flshlifght because we only do it once a week, and she responded with drooling emojis.

He has "liked" many of her selfies, often of her face, in bikinis, or her laying provocatively in a towel, and he makes unnecessary innuendos about all of her posts and stories - example, IG model says that she is getting a facial at the spa, he comments that it "doesn't look like the exciting kind", IG model posts a plate of pineapple, he responds that he has heard that that makes certain fluids taste good.

She is not selling OF and seems to have a genuine interest in talking to him. Since having kids and with struggling with BDD anyway, my libido and confidence are already down so can't help but compare myself to this much more attractive woman.

In their latest/last conversation, she asked him if he has imagined what s*x would be like with her and he responded to say that he was happily married but thanks for asking.

She then responded to say that all this time she thought he was hitting on her based on his constant sexual messages and maybe he should stop if he is happily married, and he said that he had no intent behind them and he liked their conversations and shared interests.

(What shared interests? All they talk about is sex).

There are a couple of other women he is responding to frequently, but they don't appear to be really responding or giving him the time of day/he is not giving the same incessant attention.

Another account he follows seems to be a writer woman that he messages constantly but the messages are nonsexual and just general chatter, but still overly friendly for an internet stranger I think. When I confronted him , he said that he was just building friendships and that he had told the first woman that he was married and rejected her when she was inappropriate.

I have had abusive relationships in the past and sometimes I struggle to see things clearly. I am sure that he would not be messaging this woman daily with sexually charged comments and innuendos if he wanted to be her friend - and the frequency of the messages too!

Despite my upset he has not removed either women from his account. These are not longstanding female friends, they are online strangers. Is it just harmless flirting for his ego? Why would he be so persistent in messaging the first woman daily about explicit topics? I can't stop obsessing and going back and forth in my mind.

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DrJoanAllenby · 21/04/2024 13:46

What an absolute tool.

Does he not understand that the person he is chatting with is unlikely to be the woman in the photos and videos and is more often than not, a man who is running the profile?

What an absolute berk.

I would dump him just for his stupidity let alone him behaving like a dirty creep.

Bearpawk · 21/04/2024 13:52

What the fuck did I just read.
No way would I be staying in this relationship.

Hartley99 · 21/04/2024 15:27

I’m sorry this has happened to you OP. He sounds like a shitbag.

Frankly, I’m wondering if he’s been visiting escorts as well. I find it hard to believe a man would go to all that trouble just to sexually frustrate himself. Men want sexual relief, not sexual tension. If he’s done this, he’s looked up escorts. I’d stake £500 on it.

RichTea90 · 21/04/2024 21:04

I wouldn’t be with this man. End of.

Bookworm20 · 22/04/2024 09:52

Well he is showing how he has absolutely zero respect for you. Or women in general.
This is cheating OP.
Screen shot what you've seen and hand it over to him with the divorce papers.

If he tries to pull the old 'but I was very open about telling them I am happily married......I was just building friendships.... men are allowed to be friends with women..... I love you....' bullshit, just remind him that happily married men who love and respect their wife do not create and pursue sexual situations with other women. Cheating, pathetic, sexist pig husbands do that.
And you'd rather not stay married to one of those.

Wildflower90 · 23/04/2024 20:06

Thank you all so much for your responses! I have been thinking about it all weekend and currently too angry to look at him.

He is still speaking to her daily even after she asked him if he had thought about sex with her and he said that he is happily married and he is the one initiating to make conversation, often over really mundane stuff. Why does he need to message her daily at all?

We don't post photos of our children to social media but he has a "close friends" list on his page where our family, friends, etc can see more of our personal life/days out with kids, etc and both the Only Fans model from a few years ago and the new model are in there. He doesn't even know these women in real life!! They can see all the places we take our kids etc.

I noticed that in his sexual conversations with her, he is mostly sending ridiculously cringe memes and speaking objectively about what sex acts/positions he likes rather than speaking about the two of them. He will say things like "I like it when a girl...." rather than referencing her.

Does that count for anything? Still, I am sure that he could be having these conversations with his male friends and not an Instagram stranger.

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Wildflower90 · 23/04/2024 20:10

Hartley99 · 21/04/2024 15:27

I’m sorry this has happened to you OP. He sounds like a shitbag.

Frankly, I’m wondering if he’s been visiting escorts as well. I find it hard to believe a man would go to all that trouble just to sexually frustrate himself. Men want sexual relief, not sexual tension. If he’s done this, he’s looked up escorts. I’d stake £500 on it.

I find it hard to understand that too. All of their messages are so lusty and sexually charged so why talk about sex every day for months and months and then say no?

I have been watching her page and it looks like she has screenshot and shared men on her stories that have sent unsolicited dick pics, so I feel like maybe he is paranoid that she will do the same to him if they have a more sexual conversation or he was worried about me seeing the messages - as if his incessant creepy sexual messages were perfectly fine in the first place!

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Wildflower90 · 23/04/2024 20:13

Bookworm20 · 22/04/2024 09:52

Well he is showing how he has absolutely zero respect for you. Or women in general.
This is cheating OP.
Screen shot what you've seen and hand it over to him with the divorce papers.

If he tries to pull the old 'but I was very open about telling them I am happily married......I was just building friendships.... men are allowed to be friends with women..... I love you....' bullshit, just remind him that happily married men who love and respect their wife do not create and pursue sexual situations with other women. Cheating, pathetic, sexist pig husbands do that.
And you'd rather not stay married to one of those.

Thank you, you are absolutely right. We moved to a new city for his work a few years ago and I know that he doesn't have the same social life here that he had previously so misses that but - messaging strange women on Instagram and Only Fans is creepy. Some of the innuendos he has made in response to her really mundane activities are so depraved and creepy, I don't know how anyone would be okay with being spoken to that way.

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Wildflower90 · 23/04/2024 20:18

Pinkbonbon · 20/04/2024 19:14

He's fucking vile.

I'm betting the only reason he changed his tune with her was because he was getting paranoid you or someone else who knew him might be onto him. Unless he worked out she was on the con.

He hasn't a shred of morality or decency in him. I wouldn't have him as an acquaintance, let alone a partner. He's not capable of being a partner anyway. You have to care about something other than your dick to have anyone else's back.

I wonder that. He was so brazen the first time around with the OF model and he never realised I would see the comments he had left publicly.

I also noticed that the current IG model will post screenshots to her IG story of creepy things that men have sent to her or unsolicited dick pics and I wonder if the fear of being exposed holds him back? Why chat to someone about sex every day for months and months and then say no?

I know I shouldn't dwell but I feel like he wasn't holding back out of respect for our "happy marriage" after pursuing her.

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Wildflower90 · 23/04/2024 20:20

LizzieBananas · 20/04/2024 18:32

Just to let you know, you can use words like sex and fleshlight on this site. The bold in your post is because you used asterisks instead.

Thank you! I wasn't sure if it was going to be removed! :)

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Wildflower90 · 23/04/2024 20:27

Idontknowwhattodo78 · 20/04/2024 18:25

Look him in the eye and ask him to honestly say he would be happy with you having conversations with another man, about all the sex you could have and the amazing blow jobs you could give. Tell him you fantasise about this other man, wank over him and message him every day.
If he has one OUNCE of self awareness he will agree that it’s beyond revolting. And that is when you tell him you are leaving him, because he has crossed the line, betrayed you and behaved in a way that you cannot forgive.

I know you are completely right... I've been too disgusted to even look at him over the weekend.

He would speak objectively to the woman like "I love it when a girl does X", "I would like to do X with a girl" and send her stupid sexual jokes and innuendos, rather than directly speaking about doing things with/to her.

Do you think that counts for anything? I am still upset with his constant, incessant sexual messages to this woman but now I keep overanalysing. I mean if he wants to joke about sex, he can do it with the lads.

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bottomsup12 · 23/04/2024 20:40

This is absolutely unbelievable why haven't you left this cheater?

RichTea90 · 23/04/2024 20:46

Wildflower90 · 23/04/2024 20:06

Thank you all so much for your responses! I have been thinking about it all weekend and currently too angry to look at him.

He is still speaking to her daily even after she asked him if he had thought about sex with her and he said that he is happily married and he is the one initiating to make conversation, often over really mundane stuff. Why does he need to message her daily at all?

We don't post photos of our children to social media but he has a "close friends" list on his page where our family, friends, etc can see more of our personal life/days out with kids, etc and both the Only Fans model from a few years ago and the new model are in there. He doesn't even know these women in real life!! They can see all the places we take our kids etc.

I noticed that in his sexual conversations with her, he is mostly sending ridiculously cringe memes and speaking objectively about what sex acts/positions he likes rather than speaking about the two of them. He will say things like "I like it when a girl...." rather than referencing her.

Does that count for anything? Still, I am sure that he could be having these conversations with his male friends and not an Instagram stranger.

This is utterly and completely inappropriate!!!

I would be absolutely livid if my partner was to be sharing these initimate photos with strangers online… not only that, but you’ve got the issue of why he’s even included these “people” in his close friends list in the first place. Like you’ve mentioned, we can’t even be clear as to who these people are. Lots of unknown people run these instagram accounts. Could be managed by a man. Could be some bot running the account to instigate and maintain his interest - who frickin knows.

In light of all of this and he is STILL messaging her? Nah, I’d kick him out and be filing for divorce. Wtaf.

RichTea90 · 23/04/2024 20:50

Wildflower90 · 23/04/2024 20:27

I know you are completely right... I've been too disgusted to even look at him over the weekend.

He would speak objectively to the woman like "I love it when a girl does X", "I would like to do X with a girl" and send her stupid sexual jokes and innuendos, rather than directly speaking about doing things with/to her.

Do you think that counts for anything? I am still upset with his constant, incessant sexual messages to this woman but now I keep overanalysing. I mean if he wants to joke about sex, he can do it with the lads.

OP, I think at this stage you really ought to stop over-analysing the content of the messages, and really ask yourself the question as to whether you wish to stay with this man?

This is an ABSOLUTE boundary violation for most healthy relationships and marriages in my opinion. As to why he’s doing it should be the least of your concerns right now. For the sake of your own self-respect, you need to assert yourself and make a decision as to whether you want to continue this relationship.

Kindnessaboveall · 24/04/2024 10:05

shropshire11 · 21/04/2024 12:20

His behaviour sounds deeply inappropriate, but presumably he is a man who has good qualities or else you wouldn’t be with him.

My question would be, if he is a good man in other respects then WHY is he doing this crazy behaviour? It almost sounds like compulsive messaging.

Does he feel lonely, isolated, insecure? Is he having a mid-life crisis? As much as anything, this must be a very time-consuming habit.

I am not saying what he does is OK, but if you want to save the relationship maybe you need to address what he is lacking and see if you can find a way together to meet each other’s needs.

He needs to address his own unacceptable behaviour, but how can you challenge him in a way that helps him to do this? So that you can get back to why you were together in the first place.

I really don't agree with this.
He is seeking sexual gratification outside the relationship. If their relationship is meant to be monogamous this is not acceptable.
Why should it be up to op to psychoanalyse her partner? Why should she be the one to try and save her relationship? It should be enough for her to tell this behaviour is not acceptable in their relationship and if HE can't be bothered changing his behaviour then op should be ending the relationship. If he really sees nothing wrong with such behaviour in a committed relationship then he shouldn't be in a monogamous relationship.
He obviously has absolutely no respect for op at all.

letsgoskiing · 24/04/2024 10:08

Ugh. What a creep.

Do you need help with your self-esteem as I can't see why you have stayed?

CrunchingNumbers · 24/04/2024 10:38

No respect, no loyalty, no shame, no remorse.

What exactly are you wanting to salvage here OP? Because if it's your dignity, there is only one way of doing that now...

PamPamPamPam · 24/04/2024 10:51

I think you need to firstly accept the fact that your husband is cheating on you, and decide on the next steps from that point. He is having sexually explicit conversations with another human being. That is cheating in my book. Not to mention the fact that he has humiliated you in the past by making public, sexually explicit comments on IG which I would personally also count as cheating.

Chonkadoodle · 24/04/2024 20:26

If he was my husband he’d be out on his arse.

Theblondemum · 10/07/2024 10:32

Wildflower90 · 23/04/2024 20:27

I know you are completely right... I've been too disgusted to even look at him over the weekend.

He would speak objectively to the woman like "I love it when a girl does X", "I would like to do X with a girl" and send her stupid sexual jokes and innuendos, rather than directly speaking about doing things with/to her.

Do you think that counts for anything? I am still upset with his constant, incessant sexual messages to this woman but now I keep overanalysing. I mean if he wants to joke about sex, he can do it with the lads.

He’s saying doing X with a girl, not with his wife, so I think he’s cheated as he’s talking about it naturally. He’s cheating emotionally and crossing a line. And obviously sees women as a sex object and very derogatory!! That would be it for me!

NormalAuntFanny · 10/07/2024 10:41

It's probably not even a real person he's messaging op. Have a read of this..

Sorry link failed

NormalAuntFanny · 10/07/2024 10:44

It's probably not even a real person he's messaging op. Have a read of this..

Fake conversation stuff

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 10/07/2024 10:45

Greetings from the other side of this misery. My children and I now sit around and laugh at their 'former' dad's stupid conversations with IG models. We laugh and we laugh and we laugh (now we can!) because he made us so goddamn miserable with his kinks and self-loathing and his lack of integrity, his disrespect and disregard for his entire family, his inability to fucking honour the one sacred thing left in this world where nothing is held sacred anymore: The family.
Anyway, ranting here. But leave this asshole, OP. He's a scumbag.

JoyousPinkPeer · 10/07/2024 10:57

Set up a chat with a friend with pictures of a fictitious bloke on ... see if he likes it! He's an arsehole.

Wildflower90 · 10/07/2024 19:22

Thanks, everyone. I had decided to leave. The embarrassing thing I suppose is that this happened a couple of months ago and I was in denial, or something, and unable to look at the situation clearly so at the time when I confronted him, I couldn't really face ending it, the idea of being a single mum, where to go, etc. Just so much to deal with and process. So I just plodded along for a few months and then finally last month accepted how creepy it was.

We went to visit family in June and I looked again at his phone to see that after a brief stop to talk about gardening, cats, and other garbage, he is right back to sending sexual jokes to the IG model every day! I think I am just dumbfounded because she doesn't even exist in the real world. She is thousands of miles away, he is never going to meet her in real life. Why obsessively spending time chatting to this woman? (Plus liking other strange women's bikini pics and selfies, commenting flirtatiously as if some 23 yo blonde will be interested)

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