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Husband having inappropriate conversations with IG model

91 replies

Wildflower90 · 20/04/2024 18:03

Hi there, I am new to this forum and hoping to get some perspective on a situation that has been upsetting me.

My (33F) husband (39M) and I have been together for 10 years and have 2 kids together. We have had arguments in the past about his social media usage - a couple of years ago, he subscribed to an OF model and kept making extremely sexual comments on her photos for the world to see but after we argued, he stopped following provocative accounts. (But some slip through the cracks)

He is always glued to his phone and the other day, he left Instagram open on his computer. I know I should not have snooped, but based on past experiences, I couldn't not look and found conversations with several women.

One woman in particular he has been messaging every single day for the past 10 months and ALL of their conversations are sexual. This woman lives on the other side of the world, looks like a supermodel, and has 25,000 followers but for some reason, she is following him back and the conversation is two-sided.

He has not hidden the fact that he is married and he has made reference to me throughout their conversations, but he is constantly bombarding her with pornographic sexual memes and jokes, they often chat about what sex act is depicted in the meme (his love of BJs/her saying it's a special skill she has - eyeroll ), their past sexual experiences, talking about their msturbation habits and what positions they like. He told her he bought a flshlifght because we only do it once a week, and she responded with drooling emojis.

He has "liked" many of her selfies, often of her face, in bikinis, or her laying provocatively in a towel, and he makes unnecessary innuendos about all of her posts and stories - example, IG model says that she is getting a facial at the spa, he comments that it "doesn't look like the exciting kind", IG model posts a plate of pineapple, he responds that he has heard that that makes certain fluids taste good.

She is not selling OF and seems to have a genuine interest in talking to him. Since having kids and with struggling with BDD anyway, my libido and confidence are already down so can't help but compare myself to this much more attractive woman.

In their latest/last conversation, she asked him if he has imagined what s*x would be like with her and he responded to say that he was happily married but thanks for asking.

She then responded to say that all this time she thought he was hitting on her based on his constant sexual messages and maybe he should stop if he is happily married, and he said that he had no intent behind them and he liked their conversations and shared interests.

(What shared interests? All they talk about is sex).

There are a couple of other women he is responding to frequently, but they don't appear to be really responding or giving him the time of day/he is not giving the same incessant attention.

Another account he follows seems to be a writer woman that he messages constantly but the messages are nonsexual and just general chatter, but still overly friendly for an internet stranger I think. When I confronted him , he said that he was just building friendships and that he had told the first woman that he was married and rejected her when she was inappropriate.

I have had abusive relationships in the past and sometimes I struggle to see things clearly. I am sure that he would not be messaging this woman daily with sexually charged comments and innuendos if he wanted to be her friend - and the frequency of the messages too!

Despite my upset he has not removed either women from his account. These are not longstanding female friends, they are online strangers. Is it just harmless flirting for his ego? Why would he be so persistent in messaging the first woman daily about explicit topics? I can't stop obsessing and going back and forth in my mind.

OP posts:
caringcarer · 20/04/2024 19:04

I'd bin him off.

yellowr0se · 20/04/2024 19:12

My guess is she is a cam girl. He pays her for her time to chat/ play on another platform. They also connect on insta and that's why he's open about his marriage and so why she makes out she's interested in him when (almost certainly) she is not. He is a customer.

Porn and cam can be highly addictive to men. He may need help. In the meantime, I hope you find the courage to leave.

Pinkbonbon · 20/04/2024 19:14

He's fucking vile.

I'm betting the only reason he changed his tune with her was because he was getting paranoid you or someone else who knew him might be onto him. Unless he worked out she was on the con.

He hasn't a shred of morality or decency in him. I wouldn't have him as an acquaintance, let alone a partner. He's not capable of being a partner anyway. You have to care about something other than your dick to have anyone else's back.

ImNotDone · 20/04/2024 19:16

Sorry, that would be a red line for me, just a small amount of that. That is not a loving relationship with you.

NoSnowdrop · 20/04/2024 19:17

caringcarer · 20/04/2024 19:04

I'd bin him off.

This! I cba with a man like this.

Let him spend all day messaging women if he likes. But I wouldn’t be hanging around to get his attention.

fatphalange · 20/04/2024 19:26

A man that pathetic would give the the complete and utter ick. The Ick is overused these days but to say I would find him suddenly deeply unattractive would be an understatement. Pathetic, childish creep.

Wooloohooloo · 20/04/2024 19:29

She won't be interested in him- it'll be money making. Might not even be her he's talking to- some very successful SM models etc will pay staff to run their accounts/answer messages as she'll get hundreds.

Fannyfiggs · 20/04/2024 19:39

VibeOnWithMyGalPals · 20/04/2024 18:45

Is your dh extremely attractive? Because I can’t fathom why a presumably very attractive instagram model with 25,000 followers, who lives on the other side of the world would spend 10 months DMing him daily. In fact, I’d presume he was either being cat fished, or he IS sending her money for pictures and videos.

Either way, it’s grim. I would have ZERO respect for him. I’d be repulsed by him…

This ☝️

HelloDenise · 20/04/2024 19:44

He'd be gone after the first instance. The woman he's messaging sounds like my friend. She did it after her husband left. Talking to married men in the same vein as this woman, sending nudes and receiving them of the married men. She said she didn't care about their wives, she was having fun. She absolutely pilloried her husband for leaving but conveniently forgot that she was cheating on her fiance with her ex, who she eventually married.

sailyclose · 20/04/2024 21:04

I'm sorry but he sounds repulsive.

He's a sex pest and I'd be very surprised if a IG model/influencer is taking the time to message him everyday unless she is £££ gaining from it - or maybe bots/AI/3rd world workers are 'talking' to him on her behalf?

I just would be able to build a life with someone like that. I understand you have children and history together, but it all sounds so depressing.

BlastedPimples · 21/04/2024 09:01

What a creepy man.

Shiningout · 21/04/2024 10:31

Honestly these blokes are pathetic and living in a fantasy land. Nothing is ever going to actually happen with these online women, I don't know if they know that or not but it's just so sad to see families breaking up because of something that isn't actually real??
Like an affair is devastating enough but it's so shit when it's this online stuff and you're left wondering if it's real cheating and enough to leave. Even though it might not be real physically it hurts just as much and is still a huge betrayal involving many lies.
And you'll always wonder every time he's on his phone if he's doing something, it's no way to live.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 21/04/2024 10:34

What an utter sleazebag he is. I don't know how you can even look at him, never mind stay with him.

bradpittsbathwater · 21/04/2024 11:02

I bet he's one of the many mugs who's paying her for her conversation and pics etc. she won't be interested in him, why would she? Get rid.

CombatBarbie · 21/04/2024 11:12

Op, I really wouldn't be surprised if half of their conversations from her is a chat bot.... In which case the jokes on him.

mrsdineen2 · 21/04/2024 12:00

To be completely honest, and I'll get flamed for this, I'm one of the posters wouldn't be concerned about just looking, if it wasn't to the detriment of anything else. But this is so far beyond that OP that it's ridiculous.

I simply couldn't respect him. Being stupid enough, and slavish enough, so post comments publicly? Sending her money, and chatting to her in the belief that she honestly wants anything to do with him? Money that could have been spent on you as a family.

I simply couldn't wake up in the morning and prepare the face the world with such a fucking simpleton by my side.

So please, for your sake don't tell yourself this is over because he looked elsewhere - tell yourself it's over because you need a partner with an IQ higher than their age.

And make sure he knows what a stupid fuckwit he is, don't let him try to tell himself you're just jealous or whatever way he'll twist it.

shropshire11 · 21/04/2024 12:20

His behaviour sounds deeply inappropriate, but presumably he is a man who has good qualities or else you wouldn’t be with him.

My question would be, if he is a good man in other respects then WHY is he doing this crazy behaviour? It almost sounds like compulsive messaging.

Does he feel lonely, isolated, insecure? Is he having a mid-life crisis? As much as anything, this must be a very time-consuming habit.

I am not saying what he does is OK, but if you want to save the relationship maybe you need to address what he is lacking and see if you can find a way together to meet each other’s needs.

He needs to address his own unacceptable behaviour, but how can you challenge him in a way that helps him to do this? So that you can get back to why you were together in the first place.

Thisisnotmyid · 21/04/2024 12:29

I came on to say something similar to @shropshire11. The fact he’s stopping the conversation before it gets too far makes me think he’s lonely and just wanting attention (not that it’s an excuse).

You need to talk to him OP. This is your marriage and only you know if it’s salvageable or not.

Begsthequestion · 21/04/2024 12:34

It's probably not actually the woman he's talking to. I think they pay others, often gay guys, to flirt with the sad men in messages and keep them engaged.

Xenoi24 · 21/04/2024 13:31

but presumably he is a man who has good qualities or else you wouldn’t be with him

Not sure why you'd assume that.

Anyway hardly anyone has zero good qualities. Extreme example but Hitler was apparently very fond of and good to his dogs.

So what.

I'd be very very surprised if the main one is chatting to him with zero money involved.

Or it could be a cat fish or a bot.

Whatever the case, 99.9% of women wouldn't put up with this and the same if a woman was doing similar to her husband.

Xenoi24 · 21/04/2024 13:33

he’s lonely and just wanting attention

Ah lonely.

Why doesn't he spend time with his partner, kids, family, friends etc or go down the pub for a chat.

How come his loneliness only manifests in him sending sexual messages to attractive women??

Lol.

You cannot be serious.

Xenoi24 · 21/04/2024 13:38

The fact he’s stopping the conversation before it gets too far makes me think he’s lonely and just wanting attention (not that it’s an excuse).

He didn't stop the conversation before it got too far ..... Sexual was too far

And it looks like he knew op was on to him, that is all.

Xenoi24 · 21/04/2024 13:41

Some people are greener than fresh cut grass.

And the excuses you make for really obviously, sleazy, unfaithful, piss taking men who'd never for a minute take similar behaviour back from their wife or partner ...... There's certainly plenty of fools and door mats to partner these guys.

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 21/04/2024 13:42

Wooloohooloo · 20/04/2024 19:29

She won't be interested in him- it'll be money making. Might not even be her he's talking to- some very successful SM models etc will pay staff to run their accounts/answer messages as she'll get hundreds.

This. OP she'll be gaining financially somehow, that's how these things work. Whether he sends her 'tips', or subscribes somehow, or sends actual gifts, I'll bet my hat he has forked out something to her.

As for those saying he's lonely - poor lamb, so fucking what? he could find another way to ease his loneliness than regularly perving over a complete stranger for months.
This isn't just like watching porn, which is passive - he's interacting with her, telling her about your lives. Yuk.

Hydenseek78 · 21/04/2024 13:43

Your husband is cheating on you and with making public comments everyone who knows you/him knows it too! Your BDD, confidence will continue to drop and libio will not come back as you're constantly compairing yourself to IG "models". Your husband has no respect for you or your marriage and is treating you like rubbish knowing its hurting you and your self esteem. Its bad example for your children especially a daughter as your showing her its ok for a man to treat her this way. For the sake of your sanity leave this man, he's utter garbage. What does he bring to the relationship except being a cheater? You will find once he's out of the picture your mental health will be a lot better. Your husband will then learn what hes lost for a few cheap thrill messages.