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Do unfaithful DHs still have sex with their wives?

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RottingInBed · 25/03/2024 16:13

Hello

I saw on another thread a minute ago someone said to OP: "for 3 years he was shagging her and then coming home and shagging you". OP had not said anything about her and her DH's sex life (or absence thereof).

This is something I have wondered about over the years.

Do DHs still have sex with their DWs whilst conducting affairs? (I'm thinking more of long term affairs rather than one night stands).

What about unfaithful DWs?

Does the unfaithful spouse continue sleeping with their spouse as part of a way to hide the affair?

And what about the affair partner? (Let's pretend they're single) Do they know/care if the person they're having the affair with is still shagging their spouse? Presumably it matters the basis on which the affair is happening? Ie whether both parties are aware it's just for fun or whether one/both parties thinks/pretends it's TRUE LOVE and they will be together as soon as the kids leave home.

Thanks for any thoughts.

FYI I have limited experience - my boyfriend of 9 years had an "exit affair" when we'd stopped having sex and our rship was dead. So I wasn't as bothered as I would have been if we were still being intimate.

OP posts:
DramaLlamaBangBang · 25/03/2024 18:07

Anecdotally there is a lot of 'He wanted to leave her but she got pregnant' going on, as if she did it through osmosis!

BirthdayRainbow · 25/03/2024 18:45

Men don't always tell the women they are cheating with that they aren't having sex with their wives.

I know of one where the man told his affair partner he was only sleeping with her and his wife as it would be weird otherwise. She was more wanting to know was he shagging another bit on the side.

TheSnowyOwl · 25/03/2024 18:48

BirthdayRainbow · 25/03/2024 18:45

Men don't always tell the women they are cheating with that they aren't having sex with their wives.

I know of one where the man told his affair partner he was only sleeping with her and his wife as it would be weird otherwise. She was more wanting to know was he shagging another bit on the side.

And, let’s be honest, there is likely to be someone else if the opportunity arises and he isn’t going to tell any of them if he doesn’t have to.

Riapia · 25/03/2024 18:54

Anyone, whether male or female that has an affair cares only for themselves.
No one else’s feelings matter.

(from personal experience of a lying cheating bastard. )

MsCactus · 25/03/2024 19:29

Cabbagepatchkid2 · 25/03/2024 17:30

I was just like you, never thought I’d sleep with a married man/believe all the crap they come out with. Such a cliche etc.

Then I met a covert narcissist!

They come across like the kindest, sweetest most charming people you’ve ever met. I actually felt sorry for him as he was so lovely and kind and trapped in this dreadful sexless marriage but couldn’t leave as she had MH issues (he said stemming from the fact that his business had gone into liquidation- which was true - and them subsequently losing out on buying her dream house). He said she was a recluse for four years and they slept in separate rooms and led separate lives.
The thing is they often tell a few true things in amongst the lies so you don’t know you’re arse from your elbow.
His name for her was the “soul sucker” as he said she sucked the joy out of everything and he felt trapped. He told me he loved me and made plans for the future, would send me details of houses he wanted to rent for me to check out, booked a holiday for the summer.

It was all bollocks.

Im an intelligent woman, well read and articulate and anyone who knows me would tell you I have common sense in spades. Yet I still fell for it. I was completely blindsided when I found out it was a pack of lies and his DW was oblivious. He’d told me he confessed about me and she’d left - she did nothing of the sort - she hacked his phone bc she had her suspicions and confronted him at which point he begged her not to leave him and threatened to kill himself!

Until you meet one of these characters you will never understand it. They’re evil, extremely manipulative and pathological liars but come across like saints. They are wolves in sheep’s clothing.

I never in a million years thought I would be the OW.

I think I met a man like this!!!

I never slept with him, but he tried at a work event - and when I turned him down he went ballistic. He's engaged but slept with almost every young, attractive woman in our office

I'm at a new company now, it's a small industry and he's there too. Everyone there thinks he's the most fun, charming guy. But he's horrible, and constantly lies

fluffycloudalert · 25/03/2024 21:12

GoldOtter · 25/03/2024 17:04

Why would an OW believe it though? I reckon a fair proportion of men (though not all), let alone cheaters, will say anything to get in a woman's pants. Why would an OW believe it? Why doesn't she automatically assume he's lying?? I would.
Genuine question!

Good question - why do they believe it?

No idea.

Illpickthatup · 25/03/2024 21:16

My DHs ex was having an affair with a married man for 1.5 years. He was definitely still having sex with his wife as he gave her Chlamydia.

CALLI0PE · 25/03/2024 21:28

savethatkitty · 25/03/2024 16:23

Ofcourse! Part of the ruse tho is they will often tell the affair partner they are in a sexless marriage, which 99% of the time is a lie.

This.

@RottingInBed I’m wondering if you think that men have affairs because they want more sex? Because that’s not usually what it’s about at all.

It’s about entitlement, power and control. They feel entitled to have one woman at home doing the domestic drudgery and another ( or several ) on the side. They tell themselves that it’s ok to do this because [ insert Special Reason ].

A common Special Reason they make up is that his wife isn’t having sex with him / the right kind of sex / often enough / doesn’ have the figure of an 18 year old after 3 kids / whatever . But that’s usually a lie , it’s just the bastards think it’s plausible and their deluded affair partners like to believe it.

Yesonenightonly · 25/03/2024 21:28

Namechange, obviously.

Yes, in most cases.

I think I've been with four men that I knew were married (probably others that I didn't know about, and leaving out the couples who i was seeing for threesomes). I'm certain they all wanted more sex than they were getting, or they wouldn't have been contacting women on hook-up sites. Only one said that he didn't have sex with his wife, but also that he adored her and had been constantly unfaithful from the earliest days of going out together. The other three said they were having sex with their wives, but not often. Only one defined exactly how often (in his case, once every other month). Who knows if that was true or whether it was just an amount he thought would make it more likely he would get a shag.

ZaraEarrings · 25/03/2024 21:30

Of course they do.

Some people have no conscience. It’s really that simple.

Cabbagepatchkid2 · 25/03/2024 22:34

It’s about entitlement, power and control. They feel entitled to have one woman at home doing the domestic drudgery and another ( or several ) on the side. They tell themselves that it’s ok to do this because [ insert Special Reason ].

I agree with this too. I think the married guy I was seeing was deeply insecure (narcs often are) and it made him feel like the dogs bollocks to be shagging two women. I actually realise now he’s deeply misogynistic and hates women.

I get the feeling they’re often the kind of men who were bullied/weren’t popular with the girls at school!

HollyKnight · 25/03/2024 23:23

Another thing they like to do is insist on their affair partner being faithful to them. Because, even though he has a wife and (at least one) girlfriend, it is a massive betrayal for her to see anyone else.

If the affair partner is also married, she often has to lie about not having sex with her own husband because he (her affair partner) can't stand the thought of that. Any sex admitted to must only have happened to "keep the peace" and have been purely mechanical. Not enjoyable at all.

🙄

neilyoungismyhero · 25/03/2024 23:29

crostini · 25/03/2024 16:43

Sometimes the 'style' of sex changes. As in, a couple has had a sex in a certain way for years, and then an affair starts and husband is being rougher or using different moves etc. that can be a give away.

Absolutely correct. That was my first red flag.

KomodoOhno · 26/03/2024 03:10

RottingInBed · 25/03/2024 16:28

BUSTED if the wife gets pregnant when the unfaithful DH has been trotting out the "we don't have sex anymore" line. (Not funny for the DW and innocent DC though!)

Happened to someone I know. She insists his marriage is in name only yet dw has had 2 and soon to be baby 3 in the summer. Yet the ow insists wife tricked him into it. All 3 times.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 26/03/2024 08:38

fluffycloudalert · 25/03/2024 21:12

Good question - why do they believe it?

No idea.

I think sometimes it's wilful ignorance. There is always someone who says 'But you don't know what he has told her about his marriage'. Well really? She has been told the oldest lines in the book, and had no credulity at all? They didn't think 'Well, I've never heard that line about him being separated/just there for the kids/more like brother and sister before?

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 26/03/2024 08:48

@Yesonenightonly I hope you're ok. There must be something lacking in you to try and fill it with these scummy men.

SecondClassmyass · 26/03/2024 09:27

Yes, he was having half arsed quick but regular sex with me. Pump and dump kinda situation. And of course told me he loved me every day and how I was the best in bed and how he loved our life 🥰

Junothatsagoodidea · 26/03/2024 10:04

Husband and I weren't having much sex for a while due to medical reasons. I'm talking maybe twice a year over a few years. Things improved and we started having sex more regularly. It was only after this that I learned he'd been playing away during that time. So my example is that, no, he wasn't really having sex with his wife while he was seeing OW.
Anecdotally, I saw her once while they were having their thing, but obviously didn't know at that time that they were having a thing. I remember she did a double-take and stared at my face for slightly longer than is socially 'normal'. I couldn't work out at the time what that was about. I wonder if she was trying to work out if what he'd told her about us not having sex was actually true.

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