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So upset by headf*ck man. Handhold to finally end it please!

110 replies

pretaranger · 10/03/2024 23:34

This could be a long story, but I’m trying to keep it short. I’ve been seeing a man for a year who, if I spend any time away from him (with my school age dc or just by myself), he gets upset and creates an argument about whether I want to be with him. Same if we go a day without contact. Generally, he will do something like ghost me, or threaten to break up, or he will book a flight somewhere and just go away the next day. This has happened today. I wasn’t able to speak much or to meet up this weekend because my dc was sick. I did see him 4 out of 5 days last week though. He accused me of ‘ignoring’ him, and has worked himself up to ‘if you want to dump me then just do it’ and when I didn’t rise to the bait and said I was sick of the drama cycle, he booked a flight and just messaged me saying hes leaving early in the morning for a week. ‘Just wanted to let you know’. He has no dc and works remotely so he can do that stuff whenever. It makes me feel so so shit. Last time (3’weeks ago) he refused to come back from his trip until I sufficiently grovelled on the phone, saying he was planning on rebooking his flight home to a later date, which he never did. And I’m embarrassed to say I did grovel. I was so upset and panicked.
He has told me that he thinks he might be a ‘drama addict’ and that he may have bpd and he has serious trust issues. So I do know all this. I feel like such an idiot. But even now, suddenly getting a message saying he’s leaving without warning, and knowing I ‘caused’ it, I feel so mixed up and sad. Someone who loves me as much as he claims wouldn’t do this, right? It just feels cruel. It’s like he’s withdrawing in such an extreme way, a way I couldn’t and don’t ever do to him, if he’s displeased with me. It really hurts. I don’t think I can bear to beg him back over the phone ever again. Please help me to end and block. my head is spaghetti from this man.

OP posts:
laughinglovingliving · 11/03/2024 02:21

"This could be a long story, but I’m trying to keep it short. I’ve been seeing a man for a year who, if I spend any time away from him (with my school age dc or just by myself), he gets upset and creates an argument about whether I want to be with him. Same if we go a day without contact." @pretaranger I got as far as this and you need to LTB.

MiltonNorthern · 11/03/2024 02:32

Every time you let him do this to you you're harming your children. Time to stop. Tell him it's over then block him.

OooohHowIMissThe90s · 11/03/2024 02:33

This wasn't an easy read, it sounds awful for you.

I know it'll be difficult to get off the rollercoaster but you're halfway there by recognising this abusive behaviour. Stay strong, ignore and block.

(Easy for us to say, but you'll be so much happier single than with this absolute shit of a human being) Flowers

Lampan · 11/03/2024 02:41

I’d respond to his last message with a thumbs up emoji 👍
Don’t answer his calls. Message tomorrow and end it. Don’t give any reasons. Just a ‘this is no longer working for me’ will suffice.
And then stay strong and DON’T be drawn back in.
A relationship should enhance your life, seriously why be in one that just causes stress and upset?

YouDidntEvenAskIfSheWasThereMoriarty · 11/03/2024 03:07

It's manipulation and emotional blackmail. Whether it's caused by a personality disorder or not, it's still abuse. The only way to stop it is to walk away. I promise you that you'll feel relief in the end once you get away from his twisted mindset.

Be very careful because when he realises that he's been dumped for good, he's very likely to start harassing and stalking you.

It's really important that you block him on everything. Don't let anything get to you - whether that's suicide threats or love bombing attempts or turning up on your doorstep or endless phone calls, don't let anything tempt you into giving him a response. Even a negative reaction is fuel for him that he's able to manipulate and control you further.

Either change your phone number or set your phone to only accept calls from people in your contacts list and no unknown or private numbers. It's very easy to do if you Google it. And your phone company can easily change your number if you'd prefer to do that. Call the police about any attempts to contact you.

If you need to, think of it as doing him a favour in the long term by sending the message that this behaviour is not acceptable.

And please don't feel bad. I've also got into a cycle like this with a man in the past. They know exactly what buttons to press to make you upset, which no one who really loved you or cared about you would do. You've got a kind and caring nature and that's nothing to be ashamed of. But you have to put your foot down when people take advantage of it.

cerisepanther73 · 11/03/2024 03:12

You've unfortunately come across a man child head fucker
It will not get any better that's for sure

Could even get a worse a lot

Do yourself and your children a massive favour get rid...

pretaranger · 11/03/2024 03:12

He now says it’s because he’s going to visit people to celebrate his 5 years sobriety “with people who love him” as I only think of myself and in fact me not calling him yesterday or not picking up all his calls today led to him nearly picking up a drink for the first time in 5 years and he had to talk to his family members on the phone “to talk him off the ledge”. Like I am to blame if he did drink. He acts like I’m the worst person ever sometimes. Totally denies this trip is to punish me, he must think I am an idiot.
thanks so much for the support on here. I really really need it tonight.

OP posts:
Smallonesaremorejuicy · 11/03/2024 03:17

Get rid , block him .
Please be careful & let family/ close friends know you are binning him . He seems very controlling & could turn nasty . Be strong you & your children don't need this person in your lives.

Happyinarcon · 11/03/2024 03:36

Be warned, if he realises youre serious about pulling the plug he might stop being abusive for a few months and start love bombing again. Then when you are hooked in again he’ll start with a different type of abuse that will take you a while to pick up on. He might decide to ‘bond’ with you children and use them as pawns. These type of people can get desperate

TwilightSkies · 11/03/2024 03:46

OP please take control over this. A short text to say it’s over and then block him on all platforms.
He is seriously abusive. He’s messed with your head so badly already. He doesn’t care about your well-being, emotions or happiness. He just wants an emotional punchbag.
Time to focus on yourself and your DC. All the headspace and emotional energy you are wasting on this man, should be focused on you.
I know it feels hard but blocking him is the only way.

NotSoBetty · 11/03/2024 03:48

pretaranger · 11/03/2024 00:22

He just has had some kind of hold on me, he is a really good emotional manipulator. And I did really care for him. But now I can just see what he’s doing. Since I didn’t reply to his message about him leaving he has called me 3 times. It’s so exhausting. I’ve never experienced anything like this in my life. I just want to get off the rollercoaster now.

I doubt there are any, but what are the positives about this man, since he has this hold over you?

He sounds vile. I would actually be embarrassed to be with someone like this. He sounds like a stroppy teenager and not like a fully grown mature man.

You deserve so much better.

YouDidntEvenAskIfSheWasThereMoriarty · 11/03/2024 03:49

pretaranger · 11/03/2024 03:12

He now says it’s because he’s going to visit people to celebrate his 5 years sobriety “with people who love him” as I only think of myself and in fact me not calling him yesterday or not picking up all his calls today led to him nearly picking up a drink for the first time in 5 years and he had to talk to his family members on the phone “to talk him off the ledge”. Like I am to blame if he did drink. He acts like I’m the worst person ever sometimes. Totally denies this trip is to punish me, he must think I am an idiot.
thanks so much for the support on here. I really really need it tonight.

I could show you the message where mine said those exact words about the 'people who love him'. Apparently those people really cared about him and I'd been horrible to him.

What I'd done was be asleep when he'd wanted attention from me.

You can't win. You can never ever give them the amount of attention they feel entitled to.

And of course, you've noticed already that it's perfectly fine for him to punish you for not giving him enough attention by ignoring you and guilt tripping you. He's not in the slightest bit interested in your feelings as long as he gets his own way. Throwing in the bit about you not supporting his sobriety is so childish.

Stay strong!

Seacatt · 11/03/2024 03:51

Get rid!

You are damaging your self esteem and mental health being with him.

aurynne · 11/03/2024 04:52

If you're so awful, and uncaring, and are getting him to "almost" drink again, and don't appreciate him, and don't love him... then why on earth is he with you at all?

Please send this one back to the drawing board.

HomeTheatreSystem · 11/03/2024 05:02

OP please read "Why Does He Do That" by Lundy Bancroft. It's on this site as a free PDF if you don't want the book but I think you will find your partner described in there. He's an abusive shit: please dump his arse for your sake and do the Freedom Programme so that you don't end up with another horror like him again.

Toblerbone · 11/03/2024 05:05

So he's mad at you even though you saw his 4 times last week because you prioritised your sick child at the weekend? What a selfish, immature manipulative dickhead. Dump him OP!

Ulysees · 11/03/2024 05:11

Yikes he's all kinds of fucked up. Not someone you need around dcs. Or yourself!
I really hope you are seeing him for what he is? Block. And I agree tell people about this. I presume he knows where you live?

Trulyme · 11/03/2024 05:14

What is the point of this relationship?

I genuinely don’t understand how this is better than being single?

You could literally go and chose any random man off the street and he’d treat you better then this and so I don’t understand why you’re putting up with it.

Sunflowergirl1 · 11/03/2024 05:21

You know yourself you need to end any association with this manipulative control nutcase. Cut him off and block.

skippy2024 · 11/03/2024 05:35

Give yourself peace of mind that how long can you play into his game?
Does he have another family to be needing to zoom off regularly?
Look for a stable minded non drama man who appreciates you and your available free time that works for both of you.
Gosh I would be Blocking and venting it out before he returns.
Put yourself & your child first.
Do not be lured into his mind games.

PrinceLouisWeirdFinger · 11/03/2024 05:47

Just dump him. Send him a message and say ‘There have been some lovely times, but this is no longer working and I’m calling time in this relationship. Enjoy your holiday and the rest of your life’. Send it and then block block block - phone, emails, socials. The lot. He will love this of course because it feeds the drama llama and you will no doubt be love bombed because he won’t be able to cope with the lack of attention, but he’ll get bored eventually. You’ll need to assert your boundaries very clearly with him.

Zanatdy · 11/03/2024 05:58

You need to end this, it’s not healthy for you at all and of course his childish behaviour upsets you, which has a knock on affect with your DD. Trying to blame you for the fact he nearly had a drink because you didn’t respond to him for a few hours is ridiculous. You need to break free from him. Let him carry on with his ridiculous behaviour and focus on your DD

DeeCeeCherry · 11/03/2024 06:14

He sounds repulsive. It'd be a massive fuck off from me, Im surprised you can find such a pest attractive tbh. Children to deal with, and he's yapping a load of me me me nonsense? Yuk. Concentrate on your children - they are your priority, not this fool. Practice self-care and work on your self-esteem

Priminister · 11/03/2024 06:21

I read your other thread about this man. What are you getting out of this relationship? He sounds like an absolute walloper - what an earth do you see in him?

Autienotnaughtie · 11/03/2024 06:22

He's emotionally abusing you. It will only get worse and will impact on your kids. End it and block him. Be grateful you are not more involved with hun