Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

MTF Sectioned Mental Health Act - Masturbation

47 replies

Nicola1978x · 20/02/2024 17:45

I dated a guy while back and still keep in touch with as friends, odd coffee every few months has recently been Sectioned under the Mental Health Act – something called Section 2.

He'd been receiving treatment and cognitive behaviour therapy to do with having a high sex drive and need for masturbation; I'm not sure what’s happened.

Would this be something to do with the risk associated with his sex drive or something that’s come out during therapy?

He was quite pushy about having me wank him off, and in the end, I got fed up and dumped him, mostly meet for me to wank me off sort of dates, boring..

I know someone else who loosely dated the same guy before me and said she knew he played the field that’s why she dumped him, sex was always consensual, same with me, had an obsession with wanked off by her.

Just as a side note I heard from a girlfriend that he's recently started to transition and was receiving some sort of treatment to do with transgender and hormone replacement.

I didn’t know you could be sectioned for this thing; anyone come across this before?

How long do they normally keep people detained under the Mental Health Act?

I feel pretty glad he's locked up.

OP posts:
Cazpar · 20/02/2024 18:01

There's a lot of questions there which are impossible for any of us to answer and I don't think you need to know. You're overthinking it.

If you don't want to keep in contact with him, block his number and if he does get in touch, tell him you have no wish to speak to him. If he persists after that, speak to the police.

Nicola1978x · 20/02/2024 18:03

I am not sure, just feel a bit sorry for him though I am equally glad he's locked up in wherever they take you under the Mental Health Act?

You mentioned contacting the Police?

OP posts:
Cazpar · 20/02/2024 18:05

Nicola1978x · 20/02/2024 18:03

I am not sure, just feel a bit sorry for him though I am equally glad he's locked up in wherever they take you under the Mental Health Act?

You mentioned contacting the Police?

You'd only need to contact the police if he persists in contacting you after you've told him not to.

But that is conditional on you telling him never to contact you and him harassing you. It's a hypothetical situation which I hope doesn't happen.

Whether you speak to him again is up to you.

Bubblybooboo · 20/02/2024 18:06

You feel sorry for him?

He sounds dangerous to me. Not so much the sectioning, but the obsession and pushiness around wanking. Weird. Personally I’d stay away from him.

AnnaMagnani · 20/02/2024 18:10

If he's keeping in touch with you to tell you about his wanking, I would view this as an extension of his exploitation of you.

Block and move on. He sounds sexually dangerous.

Nicola1978x · 20/02/2024 18:11

Bubblybooboo · 20/02/2024 18:06

You feel sorry for him?

He sounds dangerous to me. Not so much the sectioning, but the obsession and pushiness around wanking. Weird. Personally I’d stay away from him.

I can't imagine being locked up how that must feel, I being a bit soft I know.

I've heard from others that dated him before me and since the same sort of stuff about getting his penis out and being pushy about wanting wanked off, I kind of see how that could be dangerous, never thought of it like that before.

At least if he's sectioned that'll put and end to his behaviour, never liked that part of him.

OP posts:
JanefromLondon1 · 20/02/2024 18:14

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn due to privacy concerns.

BigFluffyHoodie · 20/02/2024 18:18

It takes quite a lot to be sectioned. At least two doctors have to decide it, as well as, possibly, a mental health professional.

You don't know what he's been sectioned for. But it sounds like his compulsion may have something to do with it - he may have been acting out in public.

But you are very naiive when you say "At least if he's sectioned that'll put and end to his behaviour, never liked that part of him." He will need ongoing treatment to combat his compulsion.

Section Two is for 28 days, but can be extended when it becomes Section Three.

Just keep away from him, would be my advice. Block and move on.

BitingtheSkirting · 20/02/2024 18:19

Section 2 means you can be detained for up to 28 days but could be much less. After that, there would need to be an assessment to see whether he'd need to be detained for longer (for his safety or that of others).

Nicola1978x · 20/02/2024 18:30

BigFluffyHoodie · 20/02/2024 18:18

It takes quite a lot to be sectioned. At least two doctors have to decide it, as well as, possibly, a mental health professional.

You don't know what he's been sectioned for. But it sounds like his compulsion may have something to do with it - he may have been acting out in public.

But you are very naiive when you say "At least if he's sectioned that'll put and end to his behaviour, never liked that part of him." He will need ongoing treatment to combat his compulsion.

Section Two is for 28 days, but can be extended when it becomes Section Three.

Just keep away from him, would be my advice. Block and move on.

I had no idea how long can they hold on to him?

Talking to a girlfriend who knows him, she heard he's being held in something called seclusion?

OP posts:
BigFluffyHoodie · 20/02/2024 18:35

Section Two is for up to 28 days. It is not an emergency admission. His behaviour will have been going on for some time, and doctors felt he should be admitted

AnnaMagnani · 20/02/2024 18:35

If he isn't mentally ill but is just a nasty shit, he'll be let out.

Even if he is mentally ill, treatment isn't necessarily going to stop him being a nasty shit.

Make sure you steer clear of him going forward, he isn't a safe person for women to be around.

HelenDamnation1 · 20/02/2024 18:37

What a wanker!

sorry

Opentooffers · 20/02/2024 18:42

He's either a danger to himself or others. Probably had a MH crisis, being penis obsessed and then effectively wishing to transition ( effectively getting rid of it) so on some level might hate that he has his obsession.
Whatever the reason, you are not close so it would be better if you stepped away from it all. Leave it to the professionals. He's got big problems and you are not the magic fixer of them, no need to dive in to save him, not your circus.

BigDogEnergy · 20/02/2024 18:44

If he is transitioning and taking female hormones/testosterone blockers, he won't be wanking for much longer.

muchalover · 20/02/2024 18:47

S2 is for assessment only. You have to under a S3 for treatment.

Seclusion is just a secure area on a inpatient psychiatric ward for people who are struggling to regulate themselves either at risk, posing a risk or just unable to manage. It's use is governed the same way sections are.

Admission is supposed to be therapeutic and is not a punishment.

Nicola1978x · 20/02/2024 18:49

Opentooffers · 20/02/2024 18:42

He's either a danger to himself or others. Probably had a MH crisis, being penis obsessed and then effectively wishing to transition ( effectively getting rid of it) so on some level might hate that he has his obsession.
Whatever the reason, you are not close so it would be better if you stepped away from it all. Leave it to the professionals. He's got big problems and you are not the magic fixer of them, no need to dive in to save him, not your circus.

I thought a danger to others was more likely why he'd been sectioned.

I could also imagine him being a flasher, I wonder if that's why he's been sectioned.

I'm more curious than wanting to help; I've never come across anything like this before.

No idea how being sectioned works and why? or what is meant by seclusion?

I'm glad to think he's locked up somewhere. I always had it in the back of my mind that if he was using me, how many other women had he used?

I have no desire to fix him.

OP posts:
fournaansjeremy · 20/02/2024 18:53

Dangerous sex pest gets locked up, transitions MtF.

Just another day in 2024. He'll be placed with women in no time. 🤡

WickWood · 20/02/2024 18:54

He'll be in a hospital, either a private one or an NHS one. He won't have been sectioned for flashing.

Seclusion means he is in a little room on his own, people are monitored much more closely there and it is reviewed frequently. He won't be able to leave seclusion until professionals advise him he can do so. People go in seclusion if they are a risk to others, usually.

MiltonNorthern · 20/02/2024 18:59

He won't have been sectioned because he's a sex pest. He could be arrested but not sectioned.

Nicola1978x · 20/02/2024 19:05

WickWood · 20/02/2024 18:54

He'll be in a hospital, either a private one or an NHS one. He won't have been sectioned for flashing.

Seclusion means he is in a little room on his own, people are monitored much more closely there and it is reviewed frequently. He won't be able to leave seclusion until professionals advise him he can do so. People go in seclusion if they are a risk to others, usually.

That makes sense

OP posts:
Nicola1978x · 20/02/2024 19:06

fournaansjeremy · 20/02/2024 18:53

Dangerous sex pest gets locked up, transitions MtF.

Just another day in 2024. He'll be placed with women in no time. 🤡

I can see where your coming from, do think we live in a strange world.

OP posts:
titchy · 20/02/2024 19:06

fournaansjeremy · 20/02/2024 18:53

Dangerous sex pest gets locked up, transitions MtF.

Just another day in 2024. He'll be placed with women in no time. 🤡

Yeah - i suspect his transition (which is far more likely to be being brought lipstick and thongs, than taking hormones) is just another mechanism by which he can continue his borderline sexual assault of women. He's dangerous to women OP. Frankly you've had a lucky escape.

PieOMy · 20/02/2024 19:31

@titchy Exactly.

kkloo · 20/02/2024 19:43

I thought a danger to others was more likely why he'd been sectioned.

They'd have to suspect he was mentally ill though, and if he's found not to be then he'll be released.