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MTF Sectioned Mental Health Act - Masturbation

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Nicola1978x · 20/02/2024 17:45

I dated a guy while back and still keep in touch with as friends, odd coffee every few months has recently been Sectioned under the Mental Health Act – something called Section 2.

He'd been receiving treatment and cognitive behaviour therapy to do with having a high sex drive and need for masturbation; I'm not sure what’s happened.

Would this be something to do with the risk associated with his sex drive or something that’s come out during therapy?

He was quite pushy about having me wank him off, and in the end, I got fed up and dumped him, mostly meet for me to wank me off sort of dates, boring..

I know someone else who loosely dated the same guy before me and said she knew he played the field that’s why she dumped him, sex was always consensual, same with me, had an obsession with wanked off by her.

Just as a side note I heard from a girlfriend that he's recently started to transition and was receiving some sort of treatment to do with transgender and hormone replacement.

I didn’t know you could be sectioned for this thing; anyone come across this before?

How long do they normally keep people detained under the Mental Health Act?

I feel pretty glad he's locked up.

OP posts:
whatyasay · 20/02/2024 20:04

Doesn't sound like you're getting the full story. He is most likely a risk to someone else or have to be a risk to himself to be placed under section. Beds are like gold dust these in the nhs, so unless he went private and paid for a bed he's probably some sort of dangerous sex offender.

Andthereyougo · 20/02/2024 20:09

If he’s been sectioned it’s because he needs professional help, which he’s getting.
You feeling sorry for him adds nothing.
Leave this to the professionals.

BigFluffyHoodie · 20/02/2024 20:11

Andthereyougo · 20/02/2024 20:09

If he’s been sectioned it’s because he needs professional help, which he’s getting.
You feeling sorry for him adds nothing.
Leave this to the professionals.

Ha ha ha. The "professionals" will do nothing for him.

BigFluffyHoodie · 20/02/2024 20:12

whatyasay · 20/02/2024 20:04

Doesn't sound like you're getting the full story. He is most likely a risk to someone else or have to be a risk to himself to be placed under section. Beds are like gold dust these in the nhs, so unless he went private and paid for a bed he's probably some sort of dangerous sex offender.

Yeah, er, nobody pays to be sectioned? I don't think you understand the system.

ScierraDoll · 20/02/2024 20:14

Under s2 he is liable to be detained for up to 28 days
He will not have admitted for excessive walking, he must pose a danger either to himself or others.
You would be wise to steer clear of him

Sunsetmom · 20/02/2024 21:48

Section 2 is for 28 days for a period of assessment in psychiatric hospital, usually due to a deterioration to mental health / risks to themselves or others or both which cannot be managed in the community. If the professionals still believe he requires hospital after 28 days they will request a mental health act assessment for a section 3 which is for treatment to be considered which is for up to 6months. He can also agree to stay informally if he has capacity to do so…

DatingDinosaur · 20/02/2024 22:26

Sounds like he's a sexual psychopath in the making. At least the authorities have got him. Sadly though, it won't be until he rapes or murders someone that he'll get locked up. And he will escalate to that if he doesn't respond to the therapy.

Steer well clear.

Cazpar · 20/02/2024 22:36

DatingDinosaur · 20/02/2024 22:26

Sounds like he's a sexual psychopath in the making. At least the authorities have got him. Sadly though, it won't be until he rapes or murders someone that he'll get locked up. And he will escalate to that if he doesn't respond to the therapy.

Steer well clear.

Careful, you'll hurt your back reaching like that.

None of us, including OP, actually know why he was sectioned, so maybe we should keep the unconstructive hyperbole to a minimum.

DatingDinosaur · 20/02/2024 22:37

Thanks for telling me how I should respond to a post. Appreciate that.

Opentooffers · 20/02/2024 22:56

He could just as easily be a sectioned for being a danger to himself, so it's all speculation and guessing, which is futile really. It's all confidential for a reason.

CaraMiaMonCher · 20/02/2024 23:03

Section 2 is like a temporary assessment section for 28 days while they observe/assess, identify needs, provide treatment and plan what happens next. He might move onto a section 3 before 28 days, or he might be released from the section.

The ins and outs of his reasons for being sectioned cannot possibly be gleaned from being on an S2. That’s likely only known to him, maybe his NOK, and the involved HCP’s.

CaraMiaMonCher · 20/02/2024 23:07

Nicola1978x · 20/02/2024 18:11

I can't imagine being locked up how that must feel, I being a bit soft I know.

I've heard from others that dated him before me and since the same sort of stuff about getting his penis out and being pushy about wanting wanked off, I kind of see how that could be dangerous, never thought of it like that before.

At least if he's sectioned that'll put and end to his behaviour, never liked that part of him.

A 28 day section isn’t going to untangle whatever pathological process goes on in his brain and sustains his obsession with being wanked off.

HoweverWeare · 20/02/2024 23:10

HelenDamnation1 · 20/02/2024 18:37

What a wanker!

sorry

Oh god this one got me.

hell that was funny

AlohaRose · 20/02/2024 23:11

The bar for being sectioned is very high, he hasn’t been sectioned just for excessive masturbation. I’m not sure why you are so inquisitive about why he has been sectioned and what is going on, he’s an ex from what sounds like a not very long-term or serious relationship and it’s best he stays that way. On another note, how many of his previous girlfriends are you in touch with if several people are saying that this behaviour is a pattern with him?! Do you all move in a very limited social circle?

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/02/2024 23:14

Forget about him OP. Whatever is going on is none of your business.

CaraMiaMonCher · 20/02/2024 23:15

whatyasay · 20/02/2024 20:04

Doesn't sound like you're getting the full story. He is most likely a risk to someone else or have to be a risk to himself to be placed under section. Beds are like gold dust these in the nhs, so unless he went private and paid for a bed he's probably some sort of dangerous sex offender.

Or maybe he finds his compulsion and its consequences so deeply distressing that he was actively suicidal, with a plan, the means to carry it out and imminent intent - and so has been sectioned because he was a danger to himself and isn’t a sex offender at all. Perhaps he thinks if he transitions and has bottom surgery then this compulsion won’t exist anymore. Perhaps he doesn’t want to transition at all, but wants his penis removed to punish himself for this fixation. None of us know.

OP and her pal sound like they’ve both quite comfortably messed around with him multiple times!

Whatsnewpussyhat · 20/02/2024 23:22

If he is transitioning and taking female hormones/testosterone blockers, he won't be wanking for much longer

He would still pose a threat to women and girls regardless. This behaviour escalates.

B1rd · 20/02/2024 23:30

He will have been placed on a section 2 due to his behaviour. If this was an issue to do with sex crimes, he would have been arrested. So, there is probably a mental health issue behind what he does.
He will be admitted onto a hospital ward where the nurse will look after him and the doctors will treat him. He is currently under assessment for 28 days to discover what is wrong with him, then treat him accordingly.

Naunet · 21/02/2024 08:49

I just hope they continue to keep him away from any women in there.

Nicola1978x · 21/02/2024 23:49

kkloo · 20/02/2024 19:43

I thought a danger to others was more likely why he'd been sectioned.

They'd have to suspect he was mentally ill though, and if he's found not to be then he'll be released.

I kind of suspected the same thing that he was a danger to others, especially women and girls.

Whilst he's sectioned were all a little safer 😊.

Fingers crossed he's not released any time soon.

OP posts:
AgentJohnson · 22/02/2024 02:43

I’m not buying the ‘just curious’ narrative that you’re spinning. There’s a reason you stayed in contact after you dumped him because of his sexual aggression and there’s a reason you’ve done a deep dive on his current circumstance and past behaviour with others.

I would stop focusing on him and question given all that you know and have experienced, why this man isn’t a distant memory. Men who exhibit sexual aggression shouldn’t elicit your sympathy.

SilverDrawer · 22/02/2024 02:52

AlohaRose · 20/02/2024 23:11

The bar for being sectioned is very high, he hasn’t been sectioned just for excessive masturbation. I’m not sure why you are so inquisitive about why he has been sectioned and what is going on, he’s an ex from what sounds like a not very long-term or serious relationship and it’s best he stays that way. On another note, how many of his previous girlfriends are you in touch with if several people are saying that this behaviour is a pattern with him?! Do you all move in a very limited social circle?

Quite.

This all seems very odd

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