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Struggling to cope with husbands constant negativity

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DexterDowner · 20/02/2024 10:16

We have been married nearly 20 years, we have children and I am seriously struggling to cope with my husband’s constant negativity and gloomy outlook in life. I’m close to divorce. Am I being unfair?

He suffers from mental health issues. He sees a psychologist. He had for years and years. He had not improved. I’ve done all the things you are supposed to when your loved one is depressed and supported them, made allowances, let things slide when days / events are ruined, gave them ample time they need for themselves, tried to be understanding, supportive, encouraging, forgiving….

but I am absolutely f*ing sick of it now. It’s exhausting! It’s draining the life and soul out of each and every day, each and every moment, the kids are affected by it, we all are! Years of putting up with this has really taken its toll and I’ve noticed how isolated it’s made us. He’s spoiled family events, weddings, work opportunities, relationships with friends.

We don’t have friends who come round, family keep their distance, the kids don’t bring friends round, we rarely do anything and if we do - we are all walking on eggshells. He’s just so depressing it leeches the fun out of everything and it’s been this way for the best part of ten years. I’m starting to feel utterly depressed myself!

I do not enjoy spending time with him, it really is a huge chore as I have to deal with the constant doom and gloom, trying to manage his moods, “just be a good wife and understand” - but it’s became abundantly clear, he’s affecting all of us in a really bad way.

In all honesty, he’s quite comfortable being Victor Meldrew and seems to relish being Mr Negative, but I am the TOTAL opposite and it’s so clear now that he’s been pulling me under water for so long and I’m exhausted because I’ve just been trying to stay afloat.

I know he has a mental illness and I know I am supposed to support him in sickness and in health, but at what cost? Do I really sacrifice the happiness of me and my children because he’s mentally unwell?

We rarely spend time together and when we do, I’m not enjoying myself. It’s whinge after whinge, complaining about the price of things and complaining about anything he possibly can. It’s actually embarrassing going out in public with him as he’s so rude and all he thinks about is himself. If I ever mention his moods, it’s my fault for saying he’s in a mood and now he is in a mood. He never recognises his destructive behaviours.

Today I snapped, I’ve been ill for the past few weeks and decided to go to the shop and get something nice for lunch, he came with me which I was disappointed with, it’s easier to go alone. He was so passive aggressive about everything. The price, why do we need that, oh you are getting more stuff?, I don’t want lunch anyway, it will just be you eating, it will go to waste, do you need all that? sighing and grumbling…. I just about turned and went to the car. I literally couldn’t stand it any longer and had lost all interest in something nice for lunch and the guilt that comes with it. I told him it’s absolutely exhausting dealing with his constant negativity and controlling behaviour.

We have came home and returned to our separate lives in the same house. He won’t apologise for being a moan and ruining what could have been a nice afternoon. He won’t even bring it up. I feel completely unseen. He seems to relish wallowing in his own self pity.

I’m seriously considering divorce. I’m spent. I’ve gave everything I have and I feel like I’ve had nothing in return. He never cares how I feel. I’ve always made excuses for him. Always tried to understand and support. My poor kids need to be able to enjoy life again. How did I manage almost 20 years of this?

What would you do?

OP posts:
Noseybookworm · 20/02/2024 13:14

It's sad for him that he is unable to find any joy in life but you have put him first for 20 years and you have reached the end of your tether. Your children also deserve to be able to have friends round and not have to tiptoe around his moods. I think it's more than fair to separate and live a more joyful life with your children. Good luck OP and remember you deserve to be happy 💐

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 20/02/2024 13:17

Leave him, otherwise your kids will leave “home” the first chance they get and will never return and it will just be you alone sitting with a misery guts… no one coming to see you or asking you over for Christmas. He doesn’t want to change.

He’s already stolen time from you - don’t let him steal your future

tara66 · 20/02/2024 13:28

it is just plain bad manners to moan on and on. Tell him you need to be with a positive and uplifting spirit!

Ginandpangolins · 20/02/2024 13:36

Brexile · 20/02/2024 10:30

He sounds unbearable. This is his problem, you can't fix it and he doesn't seem to want to fix it. Get out while you can and leave him to it.

Absolutely agree with this. My ex husband had similar traits to your husband, personality wise, and it was such a relief to be finally free of him.

Sugargliderwombat · 20/02/2024 13:50

You can be a selfish prick and have a mental illness. It sounds like even if there was a miracle cure for his illness he'd still be a dick.

GingerReader · 20/02/2024 13:58

Obeast · 20/02/2024 10:55

It’s cruel to make your kids walk on eggshells and live with a controlling man. Are they having therapy yet? They’ll think this misery is normal, something to aspire to.

(without blaming op at all since she seems to have tried her best and is also being horribly impacted by this) - it really sounds like the husband is being emotionally neglectful of the children at best and emotionally abusive at worst. Possible verbally nasty too from the sounds of it? He is not creating a safe and loving environment, quite the opposite. The kids don’t even bring friends round - that should be a big red flag! Mental health is a reason not an excuse - and OP sounds to have been more than fair and supportive. Time to leave and be free - for the kids mental health if nothing else.

NorthernSpirit · 20/02/2024 14:04

This is such a difficult situation for you. Remember you can’t change people or their actions - you can only change how you respond.

If it’s been going on for 20 years and you aren’t happy with the situation then only you can make the changes required.

My MIL is ‘glass half empty’, miserable most of the time and can suck the joy / life out of any conversation. Such a shame as she’s had such a lovely lifestyle handed to her (she’s never worked) but still it’s not good enough.

I limit the time I spend talking to her as I can’t a stand her moaning and constant negativity.

DexterDowner · 20/02/2024 14:31

I gave him the ultimatum and said he either stops his constant negative moaning (I know we all have bad days) or I’m divorcing him.

I explained having to deal with his moods, negativity, everything’s a hassle drama lifestyle has literally leeched me dry and I cannot take it anymore.

He basically just said he doesn’t agree he’s like that, but if that’s what I think then “whatever” and “I suppose I need to try and learn to act the way you want”

I think it’s fair to say, this is going to only go one way by the looks of things. I’ll leave him to think about it, but I’m ready to make a move for happiness for me and the kids, if he can’t.

I’ve got to say, it was a huge relief to just let go, tell him how he’s made us feel, tell him his depression doesn’t excuse his actions, that he needs to take responsibility for his behaviour and that this is it - the crunch line. It’s fix it now, or I go

will keep you updated
thank you all for your encouraging words

OP posts:
pointythings · 20/02/2024 14:36

Well done! I fear your cynicism re his response is well founded, but you should remember that you have tried absolutely everything to save this relationship and what happens next is on him.

Denial of how bad it is, is incredibly typical. If he acknowledged it, he'd have to take responsibility and he doesn't want to.

reclaimmyboobs · 20/02/2024 14:37

LTW: leave the whingebag. Relish the freedom. Don’t put up with it for another second. Honestly, imagine how nice your life could be!

Ginandpangolins · 20/02/2024 14:40

Good for you, OP. Sending you strength x

LifeExperience · 20/02/2024 14:47

I've battled depression for decades and it doesn't sound like depression to me. It sounds like he's using "depression" as an excuse to be an insufferable knob. He needs a better therapist.

TheSandHurtsMyFeelings · 20/02/2024 14:50

He basically just said he doesn’t agree he’s like that, but if that’s what I think then “whatever” and “I suppose I need to try and learn to act the way you want”

God, that has actually.made me feel furious on your behalf, OP. What a passive-aggressive dickhead response.

Get rid; you'll feel as if you've stepped out from underneath a stormcloud, I bet.

Shetlands · 20/02/2024 14:52

He basically just said he doesn’t agree he’s like that, but if that’s what I think then “whatever” and “I suppose I need to try and learn to act the way you want”

Wow! He's an A grade, arrogant arsehole. He's not accepting responsibility for his behaviour let alone the impact it has on the family. It's all in your head but OK he'll try and 'perform' the role you want. What a manipulative, narcissistic pillock!

I can't see any other outcome than divorce and building a much better life for your family without his toxic presence.

Hereyoume · 20/02/2024 15:23

Jesus Christ OP, even reading that was draining.

You need to leave. Now. Don't let him take up another minute of your life. You and the children deserve better.

Matobe · 20/02/2024 15:27

Proud of you, you’re life is already going to be better because of what you’re doing today!

cbbo · 20/02/2024 15:30

Read this out to him exactly as you've written to MN. Give him an ultimatum 🤷🏼‍♀️

Obeast · 20/02/2024 15:36

What an arrogant prick the man is. Just get the divorce started, it’ll take months to sort, there’s no point whatsoever in talking to him, as you know. Your kids are being robbed of a happy childhood every minute this man is inflicted on them.

2catsandhappy · 20/02/2024 15:37

How much more of your life do you think you owe him @DexterDowner ?
Can you spend some time online looking for a house you would like to envisage living in with the dc?

It would be free of black clouds, broken egg shells and fake cheery voices.
In your minds eye, imagine putting photos on the wall of genuinely happy days out.
You have done your time, now look to the wonderful future, just there for the grasping.

Nicebloomers · 20/02/2024 15:47

He’s SUPER entrenched in this behaviour by the sounds of things. He seems to be blaming you for everything. How unattractive. Your assessment of things only going one way seems accurate, but at least you know how to move forwards. Start researching solicitors.

chrisfromcardiff · 20/02/2024 16:07

DexterDowner · 20/02/2024 10:16

We have been married nearly 20 years, we have children and I am seriously struggling to cope with my husband’s constant negativity and gloomy outlook in life. I’m close to divorce. Am I being unfair?

He suffers from mental health issues. He sees a psychologist. He had for years and years. He had not improved. I’ve done all the things you are supposed to when your loved one is depressed and supported them, made allowances, let things slide when days / events are ruined, gave them ample time they need for themselves, tried to be understanding, supportive, encouraging, forgiving….

but I am absolutely f*ing sick of it now. It’s exhausting! It’s draining the life and soul out of each and every day, each and every moment, the kids are affected by it, we all are! Years of putting up with this has really taken its toll and I’ve noticed how isolated it’s made us. He’s spoiled family events, weddings, work opportunities, relationships with friends.

We don’t have friends who come round, family keep their distance, the kids don’t bring friends round, we rarely do anything and if we do - we are all walking on eggshells. He’s just so depressing it leeches the fun out of everything and it’s been this way for the best part of ten years. I’m starting to feel utterly depressed myself!

I do not enjoy spending time with him, it really is a huge chore as I have to deal with the constant doom and gloom, trying to manage his moods, “just be a good wife and understand” - but it’s became abundantly clear, he’s affecting all of us in a really bad way.

In all honesty, he’s quite comfortable being Victor Meldrew and seems to relish being Mr Negative, but I am the TOTAL opposite and it’s so clear now that he’s been pulling me under water for so long and I’m exhausted because I’ve just been trying to stay afloat.

I know he has a mental illness and I know I am supposed to support him in sickness and in health, but at what cost? Do I really sacrifice the happiness of me and my children because he’s mentally unwell?

We rarely spend time together and when we do, I’m not enjoying myself. It’s whinge after whinge, complaining about the price of things and complaining about anything he possibly can. It’s actually embarrassing going out in public with him as he’s so rude and all he thinks about is himself. If I ever mention his moods, it’s my fault for saying he’s in a mood and now he is in a mood. He never recognises his destructive behaviours.

Today I snapped, I’ve been ill for the past few weeks and decided to go to the shop and get something nice for lunch, he came with me which I was disappointed with, it’s easier to go alone. He was so passive aggressive about everything. The price, why do we need that, oh you are getting more stuff?, I don’t want lunch anyway, it will just be you eating, it will go to waste, do you need all that? sighing and grumbling…. I just about turned and went to the car. I literally couldn’t stand it any longer and had lost all interest in something nice for lunch and the guilt that comes with it. I told him it’s absolutely exhausting dealing with his constant negativity and controlling behaviour.

We have came home and returned to our separate lives in the same house. He won’t apologise for being a moan and ruining what could have been a nice afternoon. He won’t even bring it up. I feel completely unseen. He seems to relish wallowing in his own self pity.

I’m seriously considering divorce. I’m spent. I’ve gave everything I have and I feel like I’ve had nothing in return. He never cares how I feel. I’ve always made excuses for him. Always tried to understand and support. My poor kids need to be able to enjoy life again. How did I manage almost 20 years of this?

What would you do?

Sometimes you simply can't fix something (not that it is up to you to fix his MH). You have tried being supportive for a very long time. Now it is time to take your kids and leave him (or get him to leave). Life is way too short to be with someone who constantly sucks the joy out of every minute. Please take care of yourself and your kids and get out of this situation.

Twobigsapphires · 20/02/2024 16:22

I could I’ve written your post 15 years ago op. That was my exh. So happy I divorced him. Kids and I were so much lighter / freer post divorce.

OriginalFloorboards · 20/02/2024 16:30

I feel like the PP - just drained reading this.

I don’t know how you’re doing it OP.

Bananalanacake · 20/02/2024 16:32

So he's spoiled family events and relationships with friends, sounds like he's controlling and doesn't want you to have a life away from him. How would he react if you told him you were going away with a group of workmates for a weekend spa break? if he whines at you or tries to stop you he is a controlling bastard and needs to be kicked to the curb, Ignore any suicide threats.

GingerIsBest · 20/02/2024 16:34

He basically just said he doesn’t agree he’s like that, but if that’s what I think then “whatever” and “I suppose I need to try and learn to act the way you want”

More victim mentality. "I didn't do anything wrong, but what can I do? she's being mean and I have no choice."

Nothing will change. He might get passive aggressive now I suspect.