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Differentiation between friends eg Facebook and other friends

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Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 19/02/2024 06:40

This is a bit of an unusual one. How do you or do you differentiate between friends and if so are the friends you consider more acquaintances than friends because they’re eg Facebook friends and you seem them rarely?

Not going to go into the context here yet.

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Humanswarm · 19/02/2024 06:50

Well I just know who my friends are, if I see them, share things with them, really like them. Acquaintances on FB are literally just that. No real thought as to how I differentiate, I just know.

pictoosh · 19/02/2024 06:54

I have friends (a handful), mates (more) and happy acquaintances (lots) - the people on Facebook are a mixture of all three? As well as those who requested me just to be nosy too of course...colleagues and such.
Pretty sure most people will claim same.

IncognitoUsername · 19/02/2024 06:56

I don’t understand what you mean by ‘differentiate’? Like most people I have friends I’m close to and other people who I’m linked with on Social Media but are not close friends. Without the context it’s hard to know how to answer your question.

Sceptical123 · 19/02/2024 06:59

FB ‘friends’ can be close friends you see daily to acquaintances you’ve met once and liked so you added each other to stay in touch/be polite. There’s a massive range in difference. You can tailor your settings so that you don’t share certain posts with every single person who isn’t actually close to you etc, which is good, but ppl tend to want to share the lot for maximum likes etc.

Is this about differentiating friends based on who gets and invite to a certain event like a wedding? I have friends who I used to communicate with via texting and fb but I rarely use fb for that now. People who live far away but I’ve known for a long time. They’re old friends and as important to me as friends I may see on a regular basis.

The majority of FB friends tend to be ppl we went to school with or worked with, or met on a night out or on holiday who we liked and want to stay in touch with but do t actually touch base with them at all often if ever. They’re people we like but not proper friends as in you could rely on them to do you a favour without it being weird. If you share common interests you could invite them to something you think they’ll like but there isn’t necessarily a strong connection if you haven’t seen them more than a few times or very often.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 19/02/2024 07:22

Ok I’ll give some context here. Most of them are old school friends from secondary school which was over 30 years ago! Some I’ve met up with since and some I’ve not seen partly due to distance. One woman I see her sometimes in the street as she lives near me and where I sometimes shop. I wouldn’t have kept in touch or known where they’d moved to in the vast majority of cases as they weren’t close friends or we just lost touch. Several of them have moved miles away, one we think to USA and we were close at school! One is a successful woman, is in finance and just not on social media or rarely.

I friend requested someone a couple of months ago who’s a mutual friend of a friend and we all went on a group holiday abroad, shared life stories and kept in touch on our return (hadn’t met her beforehand), she recently accepted my request and we went straight into a messenger chat and have arranged to meet up soon.

@Sceptical123 I feel like most of my friends on Facebook now are firmly in the third paragraph camp!

The reason for posting is that I inadvertently but not intentionally offended a Facebook friend. Theres been a dramatic fallout from what happened too, and it created drama in my life which I really could do without!

I took a recent break from facebook for a long time and over Covid as I found it wasn’t good for my mental health. I only got back on it as I speak to people via messenger there but got a new phone last year which wanted me to reactivate my Facebook account to use messenger so I did this kind of reluctantly. So I did what most people do when returning to Facebook, if there was someone I hadn’t seen on there for years I “snooped” but I don’t have the time or energy to do this on all my Facebook friends! This person I went to school with years ago in the mid 80s, for a year in the same class and then I left that school. We reconnected on Facebook in our early 30s and met up when we were approx 36/37 and partly as she has a service which I sometimes use. We kept on promising to meet socially but never did (she invited me on a few nights out) to be honest though, she’s very nice but she’s not really my type of person. But nice enough for occasional contact. The one thing I did notice was last time I used her service she confided in me about bullying issues at school when I was there or when I left. I’d also been bullied there (was why I left, a girl I didn’t know well set fire to my hair a week after we returned after summer break and I just walked out and never returned, at just turned 15!). We also shared knowledge of the local area and as I moved back there in my mid 30s were sharing memories of how it had changed. I was quite shocked at her sharing her stories so openly with me, as we really don’t/didn’t know each other well at all, but sort of flattered that she liked and trusted me enough to confide in her.

Anyway this will be potentially outing if I say more so I’ll leave it there!

I was actually speaking to a man I’ve started dating recently, told him briefly the context and he told me not to worry as she wasn’t a close friend… so this is partly why I started a thread here.

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Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 19/02/2024 07:23

Humanswarm · 19/02/2024 06:50

Well I just know who my friends are, if I see them, share things with them, really like them. Acquaintances on FB are literally just that. No real thought as to how I differentiate, I just know.

Yep same here really! I’m muddying the waters where I shouldn’t be! 🫣

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Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 19/02/2024 07:23

pictoosh · 19/02/2024 06:54

I have friends (a handful), mates (more) and happy acquaintances (lots) - the people on Facebook are a mixture of all three? As well as those who requested me just to be nosy too of course...colleagues and such.
Pretty sure most people will claim same.

Yes much the same in my life too.

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NerrSnerr · 19/02/2024 07:28

I have read the paragraph about the person you offended but I can't see where they said or acted offended? Did I miss something obvious or did you miss it out?

Sceptical123 · 19/02/2024 07:35

What are you convenes about OP? You said you reactivated FB and mentioned this friend. Did you not reply to her messages and think she will be upset, or are you worried she’ll pick up on you being on fb again and want to meet up?

Regarding mental health - I avoided fb for much the same reason and hated the negative effect it has on ppl - feeling bad about their lives by constant comparison to others, even tho everyone knows it doesn’t reflect reality - just the highlights. What I did was unfollow many ppl so I no longer got their posts on my newsfeed - it was a game changer.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 19/02/2024 07:36

NerrSnerr · 19/02/2024 07:28

I have read the paragraph about the person you offended but I can't see where they said or acted offended? Did I miss something obvious or did you miss it out?

If you don’t mind, I’ve updated my last post on this (the long one!) but I really don’t want to go into details as to why/how they were offended as the details would make it very outing. I don’t think she’s on MN but you never know. And the way she spoke to me last time we met it was almost trapping me in her kitchen whilst she was colouring my hair, so I couldn’t escape! But I didn’t mind having that conversation then.

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Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 19/02/2024 07:39

Sceptical123 · 19/02/2024 07:35

What are you convenes about OP? You said you reactivated FB and mentioned this friend. Did you not reply to her messages and think she will be upset, or are you worried she’ll pick up on you being on fb again and want to meet up?

Regarding mental health - I avoided fb for much the same reason and hated the negative effect it has on ppl - feeling bad about their lives by constant comparison to others, even tho everyone knows it doesn’t reflect reality - just the highlights. What I did was unfollow many ppl so I no longer got their posts on my newsfeed - it was a game changer.

It really is very outing as to why she’s upset. To cut a long story short, I think she mistakenly felt we were closer friends than we were.

During my Facebook hiatus I was on Instagram and this woman was on there too as an Instagram friend. We followed each other and she’s a prolific poster there. I’m not!

But I now feel she felt we were much closer friends due to our connection on Instagram than we actually are in real life.

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Sceptical123 · 19/02/2024 07:41

Is she offended bc you haven’t gone out with her?

Sceptical123 · 19/02/2024 07:42

Or she thinks you’re friends with her bully/ies?

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 19/02/2024 07:43

Sceptical123 · 19/02/2024 07:35

What are you convenes about OP? You said you reactivated FB and mentioned this friend. Did you not reply to her messages and think she will be upset, or are you worried she’ll pick up on you being on fb again and want to meet up?

Regarding mental health - I avoided fb for much the same reason and hated the negative effect it has on ppl - feeling bad about their lives by constant comparison to others, even tho everyone knows it doesn’t reflect reality - just the highlights. What I did was unfollow many ppl so I no longer got their posts on my newsfeed - it was a game changer.

That’s the thing. Now I’m on Facebook again I’m limited in what I post and am well aware that it’s all smoke and mirrors with most people!

That hasn’t stopped people from messaging me asking me why I was away, am I in a relationship etc! Most don’t ask these questions but some people have no shame and ask lots of personal questions!

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Sceptical123 · 19/02/2024 07:43

What would you like advice on?

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 19/02/2024 07:44

Sceptical123 · 19/02/2024 07:42

Or she thinks you’re friends with her bully/ies?

It partly relates to the bully side, yes. I think she has big trust issues from that time. But I’m not friends with any of the bullies! No idea if she thinks I am.

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Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 19/02/2024 07:47

Sceptical123 · 19/02/2024 07:43

What would you like advice on?

Was merely to do with friends on social media and if people categorised them. Got my answers and it’s clarified things for me thanks!

Sorry I can’t be more enlightening. But I really really don’t want the real reason why she thinks I upset her to be played out here, as I feel it’s a potential DM story and there’s no way I want that. It’s a topic which is very sensitive to her.

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Whycantiwinmillionsandsquillions · 19/02/2024 07:50

Is the person who you offended the same person who confided in you about being bullied?

Sceptical123 · 19/02/2024 07:55

From what you’ve said it sounds like she’s a little bit controlling. I’d not book any more hair apts with her as could potentially be very awkward and disconcerting that she can pin you down at her home. If you enjoy seeing her occasionally then maybe suggest your home where there is a different power dynamic simply due to location. The positive aspect to being at hers however is you can make your excuses and run. More difficult at your place to get her to leave, but you can always tell her of and appointment scheduled directly after etc.

Going back to the friends issue - she doesn’t have any right to judge you or dictate who you were or are friends with. Don’t let her emotionally manipulate you bc you share a common bond of being bullied at the same school. You do not owe her anything. You can feel sorry for her but she should not be making you feel bad about friendships or any other aspect of your life. I’d keep her at arms length and be wary what information you share with her. It sounds like she’s the type of person to overstep boundaries and bring you in close only to have you in the direct firing line of she gets upset about how you deal with any situation - ie by not responding how she wants you to. People like this are ok as friendly acquaintances but not close friends. They thrive on drama and will manufacture it if there is none to be had, usually at ppl closest to them, who may be emotionally vulnerable’s expense. Just be wary. You don’t have to cut her off, just don’t let her in too far.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 19/02/2024 09:52

Whycantiwinmillionsandsquillions · 19/02/2024 07:50

Is the person who you offended the same person who confided in you about being bullied?

Yes, that's correct.

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Cornishclio · 19/02/2024 09:57

I am not really sure what you are asking but assume you inadvertently offended someone from your school days that you only connected with recently on SM again? I think you could probably only call this person an acquaintance really given you don't see her or communicate with her regularly which is how I would distinguish between a friend or acquaintance.

I personally struggle to keep friendships going if they don't live local to me and/ or don't share interests or socialise with. So old school friends would definitely fall under acquaintances and if I were you I would not give it another thought.

You seem to be overthinking this. My husband got offended at something a previously good friend said to him on SM and unfriended him. Brutal.

PaintedEgg · 19/02/2024 09:57

its possible that this person does not have many friends and therefore puts too much weight on the relationships with random people they speak to online - you said you were shocked at her confiding in you...so it does not sound like you were close at all

either delete or mute her and that should end the drama

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 19/02/2024 10:13

Sceptical123 · 19/02/2024 07:55

From what you’ve said it sounds like she’s a little bit controlling. I’d not book any more hair apts with her as could potentially be very awkward and disconcerting that she can pin you down at her home. If you enjoy seeing her occasionally then maybe suggest your home where there is a different power dynamic simply due to location. The positive aspect to being at hers however is you can make your excuses and run. More difficult at your place to get her to leave, but you can always tell her of and appointment scheduled directly after etc.

Going back to the friends issue - she doesn’t have any right to judge you or dictate who you were or are friends with. Don’t let her emotionally manipulate you bc you share a common bond of being bullied at the same school. You do not owe her anything. You can feel sorry for her but she should not be making you feel bad about friendships or any other aspect of your life. I’d keep her at arms length and be wary what information you share with her. It sounds like she’s the type of person to overstep boundaries and bring you in close only to have you in the direct firing line of she gets upset about how you deal with any situation - ie by not responding how she wants you to. People like this are ok as friendly acquaintances but not close friends. They thrive on drama and will manufacture it if there is none to be had, usually at ppl closest to them, who may be emotionally vulnerable’s expense. Just be wary. You don’t have to cut her off, just don’t let her in too far.

I hadn't actually thought of her being that controlling until now, but it seems as if she might be, yes. She actually isn't my current hairdresser, I used her a couple of times over lockdown, but the hours and days she works (she also has another job) vary, and due to my work hours, it's just too far (just under an hour away, driving in rush hour traffic) for me to travel to see her on a regular basis. However, she knows this, and though she'd probably prefer me as a regular client, she's happily given me advice on getting my hair highlighted and when to go back to a salon. I also didn't realise how quickly her hair business was growing, and she's booked up at least a month in advance.

The last time I saw her it was quite embarrassing as she'd totally forgotten I was coming for an appointment (was in 2021) and I arrived at her house to find her in but her DH on the drive and both of them looking at me and quizzing me as to why I was there! And I had to remind her I had my hair appointment then! She luckily did it then and there but I wasn't too impressed she'd obviously forgotten my appointment and not realised so she could ring/text and tell me.

I'm not sure I would like her in my home for various reasons, because, as you said, I can leave and run if I go to hers whereas vice versa I'd have to get her to leave.

Re the friends issue. I don't think she judges or dictates to me who my friends are now, she couldn't anyway, we do have some but not many in common, but I did find it quite uncomfortable, as I said before, that I was almost pinned down in her chair, in her kitchen, and she was teasing information out of me and getting me to sympathise/empathise with her when I'd long forgotten about these bullies. I don't think I ever told her about the hair setting on fire incident which is when we last saw each other at that school! And when I left that school and moved to one just up the hill (a private convent one) I was told strictly by the teachers/nuns and other pupils not to mix with my old school friends so I did as I was told. I think I saw my old school friends once or twice walking past the school but I ignored them as I was told to do.

You have it down to a T though, friendly acquaintances is and was fine but I do think she has a drama streak in her which I wasn't aware of until recently. We are now not friends because of something which happened recently to do with Facebook which was more a crossing of boundaries/blurring lines on my part, I totally get that. It really wasn't that bad at all but she has totally blown it out of all proportion in my mind, and that's her right to do that. But as she wasn't a close friend anyway, not even a friend friend, and far more an acquaintance then I didn't see how I'd upset her that much and I still don't think her overreaction is normal nor healthy.

I do think she may see certain people in her life as allies and more friends with her than they actually are and I was one of them. Was a very loose friend/acquaintance because she's cut me off completely with no explanation, apart from via another party. And as I said before, with her sharing her bullying anecdote (which is only one side of the story from her side) and also stories of her life around the area (again I didn't know her then so I can't comment but can sympathise/empathise!) I feel as if she wanted some sort of ally/friend to support her and validate any bullying she received. She didn't seem to have moved on from this bullying when we last spoke and has obviously stored it in her mind, whereas I'm of the mindset, it's in the past, yes, I've dwelled on these incidents in the past but generally I'm very resilient and just want to move on!

Thank you for your input though.

My new boyfriend thinks it's a good idea I never gave her my home address though!

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Humanswarm · 19/02/2024 10:16

Not sure I totally follow but, some people will find offence where there isn't any. If you didn't mean any offence, and she is merely an acquaintance you don't know very well, just leave it where it is. No justification required, no more thought on your part.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 19/02/2024 10:20

Cornishclio · 19/02/2024 09:57

I am not really sure what you are asking but assume you inadvertently offended someone from your school days that you only connected with recently on SM again? I think you could probably only call this person an acquaintance really given you don't see her or communicate with her regularly which is how I would distinguish between a friend or acquaintance.

I personally struggle to keep friendships going if they don't live local to me and/ or don't share interests or socialise with. So old school friends would definitely fall under acquaintances and if I were you I would not give it another thought.

You seem to be overthinking this. My husband got offended at something a previously good friend said to him on SM and unfriended him. Brutal.

Incorrect, we have been 'friends' on instagram for the past few years, at least 15 years, she sharing regular posts and the odd message interaction. And I agree she is an acquaintance rather than a friend but she's considered me a friend I think, via late night phone calls, messages to me etc, asking me out for drinks all of which I rebutted as I didn't think she was my kind of person for a friend!

She lives fairly locally to me but just under an hour's drive away. I sometimes go that way but generally not, and I wouldn't go out in the town she lives near as I find it rough (it is).

I'm overthinking this as I actually got abuse from her DH over this incident which happened recently, as I messaged him to see if my 'friend/acquaintance' was ok, as I'd not heard from her after I'd 'snooped' (brief look!) at her FB profile. I then noticed she'd deleted me from Instagram and FB but not Whatsapp! Bizarre.

And @PaintedEgg - I do think she has close friends but a lot are new ones from her new DH. But we weren't close, I didn't and don't want to be close, but thought she was trying to forge/force a friendship with me, which as I said I found a bit suffocating and intense!

Yep, she's gone as anything from my life now, and thank god for that. Drama free!

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