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MIL has alzheimers - husband now prioritising nothing else

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readingbored · 29/01/2024 10:54

Need advice on how to ensure DH balances responsibilities. My MIL has just been diagnosed with Alzheimers. She is still OK, driving and living in her own house etc. just her short term memory is going slowly downhill, so it is early days with the disease.

My husband has always been very protective of her. my FIL died in 2014 and since then my DH will always go straight around her house 5 minutes away if she needs something sorting out. It's usually computer or admin related but other requests too. He has a sister but she lives 3 hours away and less capable of helping. I've have always had an issue with this because he will always prioritise his mum's needs above all else. If she calls he goes. If I ask for help, I'm told he'll "add it to the list" or get around to it at some point, or sometimes just told off for nagging. Things wait for months if ever to get done here, which I know if they were MIL asking would be done immediately. He doesn't really work as a team.

If she has a medical appointment he takes her no issue, taking time off work. When I'm ill I get no support. He never came to growth scans both times I was pregnant (just the regular 12 and 20 week scans), hasn't taken me to doctors when I was really unwell, just expecting me to do it all by myself saying he can't take time out. I was very faint at work a month ago. A colleague took me home. He reluctantly came home to WFH as I was unwell, but refused to take me to the doctors appointment, so I drove myself feeling faint and anxious I had a blood clot (as have a condition). I assumed he had no time, but when I got back he went for a 1/2 hour walk outside by himself. Anther time I had a UTI, he refused to go to the doctors to fetch my meds for me.

I have so many examples of when he has prioritised his mum or deprioritised me, I could write a book.

He is now busily sorting her financial affairs to try and get things in order. The house also has hoarded things over 40 years, and needs work to get in order in anticipation that in future she will no longer be able to be there.

At home we have two children under 10 and I work 4 days a week as a solicitor. I work from home mostly. He works in the office mostly. That in itself leads to me dealing with more childcare for which I am also resentful. He is about to start a new role at his company that will mean 5 days in the office, and longer hours too.

I am very concerned that things are only going to get worse as my MIL gets worse, with me holding the fort here, while he deals with his mum and his work. There are various things I want to do with the house to update it this year. We also need to choose a secondary school for our eldest. He won't engage in any discussions about these things, saying he has no time. But equally won't let me just go ahead and sort them without his input. I'm scared we are going to end up putting our lives on hold for years while he just focuses on his mum. This fear may sound irrational, but really has built up over the course of our 12 year marriage where I have felt he has repeatedly prioritised his mother.

I have raised the issue with him, but he says it's either not true and makes it look like I am being really unreasonable, or is just very defensive about his mum and the fact she is a widow. Sometimes he will turn the conversation around and make me into the bad person for even raising the topic.

I totally have sympathy for my MIL's situation (though annoyed all her affairs are disorganised, so we are now ending up having to sort them for her), and am doing what I can to help too, but I feel like he isn't listening when I am trying to explain what I am worried about, and how this is making me feel. This is causing a distance between us, and damaging our relationship.

Basically, when I have said how frustrating it is that he is spending every free minute at the moment working on his mum's stuff, and that he's having to do that because she hasn't really got on top of it all when she was totally capable of doing so, he literally said I have to just "suck it up". There's no empathy with my point of view at all.

It feels to me that my husband is now doing too much for her already, where she actually is still capable of many things; he's already being over protective. She is happy with this, as she hates dealing with the admin and loves having her son over at her house, so no push back from her or offer to help.

My DH as a personality is very "duty" driven. or at least duty to parents, children, employer, not so much to his wife. He's the kind of person who will take on the role of carer in the extreme and not accept external help. He will make himself unwell in the doing so, but believes it's his duty nonetheless. I have suggested getting a de-clutterer company to come in to help in the house, but he won't do that, I've recommended getting the solicitors to sort the paperwork, but he would rather use up his precious time doing it all himself to save a few pounds, where we could afford to get external help.

I'm not looking for recommendations to leave my husband, though of course it could come to that in future. I'm looking for advice from those in a similar situation who found a way through to ensure family life was balanced well with caring responsibilities, and how to communicate with a uncommunicative and unempathetic spouse to ensure your feelings are taken into account in this kind of sensitive situation.

I've just been told I've got to help his mother more and will have to in future. He hasn't spoken to me about whether I'm Ok with this, what he means by this. Just expects me to acquiesce. What is really needed is a sit down conversation about what people's expectations are in all this. A non-starter for me would be moving his mother in with us, for example. Likewise if he semi moved in there rather than getting outside carer help, that also would not be OK. As it's early days in the diagnosis, I don't know when it's appropriate to have this kind of conversation. I suspect he will put off discussing things until nearer to them happening, as then he doesn't have to accept yet too much that his mum will change).

This may all sound like I am being selfish, and perhaps I am, but mainly I'm trying to be protective of our family and relationship and it doesn't continue to suffer detrimentally due to the situation which we now all find ourselves in. We are already overstretched with our own work and family without adding caring responsibilities. I am also suffering perimenopause symptoms regularly and not feeling as able to cope as I used to. I don't feel like he's fighting for ensuring our relationship and family are impacted as little as possible. I need to set boundaries and expectations now, otherwise I know it will just get worse and worse, and I will be ignored, side-lined and my needs and feelings not taken into account.

OP posts:
WineMakesTheWorldGoAround · 29/01/2024 16:25

JustHereForTheLaughs · 29/01/2024 15:32

@WineMakesTheWorldGoAround i think that the OP wants and expects, just like I did, to work as a team. To have her dh involved into that sort of stuff because that’s what happens in a couple.

Plus he doesn’t want her to do it in her own. He wants to be involved. And probably would have a big issue if word was coming out he wasn’t there for his dcs or to do the DIY. That would tarnish his image of nice dutiful guy

I agree that it’s a way to sort some of the problems out. But it will not happen wo a fuss.
And it will add to the OP’s workload when she is already resentful of his lack of input. With good reasons.

I do understand that believe me.
It does just get to a point though when you realise that you are not the team you hoped you would be.
Personally I like to live in a home that I enjoy being in, clean & well decorated. I know I would be happier if I sorted it without my husbands input rather than waiting for a decision that won't be made.
If I was staying in a relationship that wasn't what I hoped it would be I would most certainly be making the best of everything else, regardless of whether my husband had any input or not.

Epidote · 29/01/2024 16:36

I think there is no balance in his behaviour, he is there for her and seems to neglect some big days or stuff with you. Also you are jealous of it. You are focusing in the wrong stuff, therefore the jealousy.

He need to do more stuff with you. That is all, he doesn't have to do less with her. It is not a her problem is a he and you problem. Talk to him.

If my partner tell me I cant give a hand to my mother or father I would be calling my partner an ex partner. If my partner tells me that my ill mother or dad cant come to live with us in time of need I will be calling him ex partner.

I got a very healthy relationship with my parents and I know who are my priorities. First sons and daughters, second parents, third partner and fourth siblings.

forrestgreen · 29/01/2024 17:25

Think about how your life would change if you got divorced??

I bet you'd be better off emotionally, the kids would see him rather than seeing him in passing.

OrangeMarmaladeOnToast · 29/01/2024 19:47

ACatNamedVirtue · 29/01/2024 13:57

I'm afraid no advice that people give will work.

You are stating from such a low bar that even when you were very unwell or when it was about your unborn child your DH wouldn't prioritise you.

Even when his DM was well, he would prioritise her and himself every time over you and your DC. This will only get worse and is likely to go on this way for years.

The longer this goes on the more you will appear unreasonable and unsupportive for not going along with him. You've been given a view into the 10yrs of your life. Not only will you have no support from him but he'll draw you in to be a carer.

Quite why you would stay with someone who abandons you when you're at your most vulnerable and unwell is somewhat of a mystery to me already.

You appear to get nothing from this relationship, and you're about to get even less. I gently suggest you get yourself organised now.

Agreed. This isn't fixable, so either you're ok with DH becoming her carer to the exclusion of all else and trying to make you be one as well, or you're not. There will be no balanced family life and nor will he choose to take your needs into consideration.

MummyPencil · 29/01/2024 20:04

Vinrouge4 · 29/01/2024 13:04

In my experience, it won't be long until she needs a lot more help and there will be things that your husband possibly will want you to do, on a hygiene level. So you do need to start having these conversations now.

She doesn’t need to provide that sort of care FOC.
Marriage is already on a rocky and hard to predict if (ever) recover.
If you do most of the childcare and work = single parenting. (Difference is DH living with you).

OrangeMarmaladeOnToast · 29/01/2024 20:19

MummyPencil · 29/01/2024 20:04

She doesn’t need to provide that sort of care FOC.
Marriage is already on a rocky and hard to predict if (ever) recover.
If you do most of the childcare and work = single parenting. (Difference is DH living with you).

Edited

Yes, I can't see what sort of 'conversation' is to be expected here. DH has made clear that he expects this of OP and assumes she will do as she's told. A conversation is a two way thing, and he doesn't do that. OP is either going to accept being ordered into providing care or she isn't.

MummyPencil · 29/01/2024 22:17

He shouldn’t assume she will do as she is told. That itself speaks volumes. OP isn’t to be ordered by Husband.

Marriage is over unless they sit down and work satisfactory family/mil care balance.

Codlingmoths · 29/01/2024 23:40

Epidote · 29/01/2024 16:36

I think there is no balance in his behaviour, he is there for her and seems to neglect some big days or stuff with you. Also you are jealous of it. You are focusing in the wrong stuff, therefore the jealousy.

He need to do more stuff with you. That is all, he doesn't have to do less with her. It is not a her problem is a he and you problem. Talk to him.

If my partner tell me I cant give a hand to my mother or father I would be calling my partner an ex partner. If my partner tells me that my ill mother or dad cant come to live with us in time of need I will be calling him ex partner.

I got a very healthy relationship with my parents and I know who are my priorities. First sons and daughters, second parents, third partner and fourth siblings.

I wouldn’t be your partner. the op does everything in the house and for their children. She absolutely gets to veto her husband moving his mum in or volunteering her as a carer. Why does your partner come below your parents? Your partner has presumably helped bring up your children and committed to family life with you?

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 29/01/2024 23:52

I think the mother in law is a red herring. This is a man who makes decisions that affect you and tells you what you're going to be doing and then to 'suck it up' when queationned. A man who would rather go for a half hour walk by himself than drive his faint wife with a potential blood clot to the doctors. It seems as though even if she was in perfect health and self sufficient, he would still treat you like shit. How does he treat your children? As I can't see why you're staying with him

TheShellBeach · 30/01/2024 00:05

I'm another one who thinks you'd be better off planning to separate.

As his mother deteriorates, your husband is likely to try to get you to take on some of the personal care.

You haven't got time, and you don't have the inclination anyway.

He's being selfish. And high-handed. And he clearly doesn't think of your needs much, does he?

TheShellBeach · 30/01/2024 00:07

BTW OP if you want to respond to someone on Mumsnet, click on the three dots and select QUOTE.

The Reply button on this site is broken.

Marblessolveeverything · 30/01/2024 00:11

I think you had enough issues before her recent diagnosis!

If it was all fine before it I feel you would have empathy and patience for them both to process the shock and put a plan on order.

The reality is this could go on for a very long time and significant support will be needed. Has he any idea of the reality about to hit ? I am guessing you may have a more realistic view

scaredofthefuture2024 · 30/01/2024 00:18

Op my MIL is further along than yours. As others have said the demands on your time etc will get worse and push you to your absolute limits at times. My husband understandably adores his mum and has no siblings. He would never dream of behaving like your husband and if he did I wouldn't hang around. You can't save a relationship on your own.

Epidote · 30/01/2024 04:03

@Codlingmoths, it is fine, everyone is different with different priorities. OP is focusing in her MIL illness instead in the real issue that is her DH the one who doesn't do his share. I wouldn't want to be her or be with her.
Relationship vary and mine with my parents etc is very healthy and no one will tell me I cant help them.

I had the blessing to be raised by my parents and both set of grandparents (due aging) they came to live with us. It was the best thing that could happen. My childhood was a really nice one and we all faced the problems we had together.

When the time comes I will do what I have to do for them. If my partner express concerns about it, he will be definitely an ex. But that is me.

If they were horrible I wouldn't think like I do, but as the time pass and after a separation I can say that I know were my priorities are

I don't believe OP suddenly discovered that is she the one doing all. Her mother in law illness is the last straw, and she just realized that her husband can do things, but not with or for her. Even with that, she is focusing in her illnesses like if she can take some time of her husband with her mum suddenly that time is going to be for her. That is not going to happen.

OP issues is not a woman with Alzheimer's OP issue is a husband who doesn't care enough about her.

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