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8 months pregnant and rowing with partner

52 replies

Elizabeth7120 · 23/01/2024 23:33

This is my first post and I'm reaching out for advice to other parents/parents to be to try to find out if this is normal and if so how other people have dealt with it. Forgive me if I waffle as there is so much pent up frustration as I've been hiding a lot from my friends and family from fear of them thinking the worst of him.

Since getting pregnant (after both of us wanting a child for a long time) rows have been cropping up more and more with my partner.

For background, He has a lot of fears around pregnancy (after miscarriages with previous partners) and around father's (lack of) rights, which he refuses to talk about and I suspect are at the root of lots of the fights.

I've tried to continually reassure him about both, even signing an agreement he drew up basically saying I would never stop him from seeing our child and would always put baby's well being first. Nothing I have done has lead him to think the contrary.

He is losing his temper more and more, and when any argument arises is getting more and more derogatory and insulting. He throws things in my face I thought we had resolved and keeps going back to this idea that I have some grand Machiavellian scheme to keep our child from him.

Often the argument starts from something really small and his reaction is totally disproportionate.

For example, recently he's had friends over on a Saturday night who have crashed on the sofa after a late one, with both of them sleeping in until late afternoon the next day. When he mentioned a friend would be staying over again recently I asked if if would be possible this time for his mate not to stay as I would really like to be able to relax at home and not have to creep around in the morning whilst they both slept in. I'm 8 months pregnant now, and really suffering from lack of sleep and am exhausted at the end of the day after work.

He went ballistic at me that I had 'the audacity' to ask this and spiralled into calling me all sorts of names and bringing up so many things that had nothing to do with the original request.

When I ask him to calm down, or to not talk to me like that he refused and says I deserve it.

I've tried so many approaches from standing up for myself, taking time outs, trying to explain why his reactions hurt me...but nothing seems to work.

We have amazing times together, and some of our talks, when he's calm, have felt really productive - but he still keeps blowing up in such a nasty way, very often.

I want to make this work, for the good of our baby, as I know he will be a fantastic father and when things are good they are brilliant...but I am at a loss as how to deal with this and avoid this hurtful behaviour.

Any advice greatly appreciated and apologies for such a long post.

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Gowlett · 23/01/2024 23:39

My DH is similar. He made the newborn phase so much more difficult than it already was. Luckily I had the mental strength to cope (could have been very different if I’d had PND) but I am bitter now I look back… Be prepared for this. If you think it’s hard now, it will worse whey your baby is here…

Bibsandrepeat · 23/01/2024 23:47

Does he have a child with an ex that he's not allowed to see? His behaviour isn't normal in my experience - I had my first baby 7 months ago and I'm currently 5 and a half months pregnant - and none of my close friends have ever expressed similar concerns when they were pregnant. Of course arguments can happen, emotions are probably running high with excitement/nerves/unknowns but the way he's disrespecting you is absolutely not ok. I would have lost the plot if my husband had friends staying over after late night drinking and they slept in all day while I was heavily pregnant.

Nanny0gg · 23/01/2024 23:48

I'm really sorry but that is not 'fantastic father' material

That 'agreement' he made you sign is a) worthless and b) signs of potential coercive control

I think you need to reach out to family

This is not in any way normal, nerves or not

Nanny0gg · 23/01/2024 23:49

Gowlett · 23/01/2024 23:39

My DH is similar. He made the newborn phase so much more difficult than it already was. Luckily I had the mental strength to cope (could have been very different if I’d had PND) but I am bitter now I look back… Be prepared for this. If you think it’s hard now, it will worse whey your baby is here…

How is he now? Are you still together?

MMadness · 24/01/2024 02:32

A fantastic father doesn't abuse the mother of his child.

Run. His outbursts and control issues will only escalate.

MamaBearsss · 24/01/2024 02:51

The fact you’re hiding this from your friends and family says it all.

Anger is unlucky to improve once you add sleep deprivation and a newborn into the mix.

i would be considering my options.

Happyinarcon · 24/01/2024 02:57

It sounds like he is emotionally abusive and constantly gaslighting you. The story about losing access to his child is just a cover story to disguise his control, ie it makes it hard for you to challenge his abusive control if he can hide it behind a plausible but nebulous sob story

RantyAnty · 24/01/2024 03:32

He Batshit abusive.

Abuse often shows up during pregnancy.

Please tell your family.

TitaniumTess · 24/01/2024 04:39

Hi, my ex started being horrible during pregnancy. He got worse and worse.

I think that you need to reach out to family and friends. Explain what is happening.

Also Google:- emotional abuse, trauma bonding, deflection etc.

The Freedom Programme is good around poor patterns of behaviour. Women's Aid and Refuge are also super with webpages full of useful info and chat lines.

Please stay calm and look after yourself and baby. 💫💫💫

ohfook · 24/01/2024 05:03

It could be one of two things in my opinion.

The stress of the pregnancy has made him temporarily act extremely out of character. In which case the onus is on him to deal with this not in you to continuously tie yourself in knots so as not to further upset him.

Or now that you're pregnant he is showing his true colours. I'd guess he's done this with previous partners too and now has children he is unable to see?

It certainly reads as the latter but I suppose only you know him so only you know which one it is.

The newborn phase is lovely but puts a lot of stress on a relationship in that you have this tiny being that feels most comforted by mum and mum is fucking exhausted as is dad if he helps out at night. Meaning you're unable to give your partner the attention you once did plus the new baby often cries for dad but settles for mum meaning dad can feel a bit rejected too. Add into the mix that settling or comforting a baby can look an awful lot like sitting on the sofa doing nothing which a lot of men can't stand, my money is on this not improving once the baby is here.

Shoxfordian · 24/01/2024 05:19

Make a plan for how you're going to cope without him, he sounds nasty and unsupportive

MCOut · 24/01/2024 05:34

Firstly, don’t hide this from your family and friends. They will want to give you support, and it’s important for you not to be isolated especially at this time. The reason I say this and I hope this will not be the case for you, is that abuse often begins during pregnancy.

There are several legal protections in place which will prevent what he is worried about. Given that, there is not much you can do to make him feel better. If this is a mental health thing he needs to go and talk to a counsellor and sort it out himself. I suspect this is just laying the groundwork to prevent you from leaving due to his behaviour.

Pull him up on it and make it inescapably clear you will walk and spend not a second feeling guilty before you tolerate being abused like this. Given his behaviour make sure you have someone with you.

Ladyj84 · 24/01/2024 06:19

First would I believe this guy's stories about other pregnancies and miscarriages with other partners unfortunately not I think he is a control freak who will say anything to control you. This weirdly sounds like my ex and 3 weeks after baby was born it went from mental and verbal to physical, I was hospitalised for 6 weeks with baby and he was arrested,charged etc etc..turned out all the stories of always wanting a child etc and miscarriages were all lies. He had also hidden a daughter who wasn't actually allowed near him due to violence and abuse and a judge ruled he was unsafe. Anyway it all came out in the divorce that I wasn't the only one he made write things down etc. Luckily the judge in my case also deemed him as unsafe and a harm to baby so is not allowed near until said child is 18. We've since moved miles away.

A12348 · 24/01/2024 06:35

He sounds like he has an issue with women. In fact it sounds like he hates women. His behaviour is escalating now you are in a vulnerable position. If so he is just a common abusive partner.

These stories about exes are another way to control you or get you to twist yourself in knots proving you are more worthy.

If you can I would just leave. Say his explosions are not helping the pregnancy. Speak to your family - get real support.

A12348 · 24/01/2024 06:37

Does he have more children that he doesn’t see?

Elizabeth7120 · 24/01/2024 10:37

Thank you for your message. No, he doesn't have any other children. He has friends who have had difficulties around child access etc

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Elizabeth7120 · 24/01/2024 10:38

He doesn't. It's some of his friends who have had that experience.

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Elizabeth7120 · 24/01/2024 10:38

I am speaking to my friends and family now. Thank you to everyone for encouraging that.

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Elizabeth7120 · 24/01/2024 10:40

God, I'm so sorry to hear that and hope you are in a good place now.
I honestly don't believe he would ever be violent, thank goodness and just want to iron this all out for the good of our baby.

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Elizabeth7120 · 24/01/2024 10:41

This is really good advice. Thank you so much x

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Elizabeth7120 · 24/01/2024 10:43

I really do think it's the pregnancy and his fears that are making him act like this. I will only really know once baby is here. I'm lucky I have a great support network. I really want this to work out, but if it doesn't I will have plenty of support thankfully.

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Elizabeth7120 · 24/01/2024 10:44

I will do. Thank you so much x

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Venturini · 24/01/2024 11:14

He sounds paranoid, controlling, and emotionally abusive. Definitely confide in your family as his behaviour is highly likely to escalate once your baby is born. I’m sorry to say I would be expecting things to get worse not better and I would be making plans to be a single parent. You deserve so much better than this shit. Good luck OP and don’t hesitate to put yourself and your baby first.

Lillygolightly · 24/01/2024 11:56

Doesn’t matter why his behaviour is, it IS abusive!! He is abusing you at your most vulnerable time, I guarantee that he will get worse once baby is born and you will feel so much more trapped than you are right now.

A friend recently went through very similar circumstances. Her DP wanted a baby, had worries about conceiving due to difficulties with an ex partner. He also had a friend who had restricted access to his child after abuse in the home and against the mother. Friends DP and his friend they used to sit around discussing the ex calling her all the names under the sun saying what a psycho she was and how poor friend really was the true victim in all this.

My friend eventually became pregnant and her DP became abusive, just like you she put it down to the stress of the pregnancy (they’d had miscarriages) and thought all would be better once baby arrived. His abuse got worse the further along she got and then ultimately she had her baby girl and as soon as he could he engineered a terrible argument so he could storm out (to the pub of course) and left her alone with their newborn and her just back from hospital recovering from a c section. It got steadily worse from there until he got physical and the police had to be called and she had to the flee her home with the baby. They are now going through court as he wants access to his daughter (not that she ever withheld it in the first place, it’s just another step up in his continued attempts to abuse and control her) and of course he points all the blame in her direction, says it’s all her fault, she’s a psycho and he’s the victim in all this!! It’s fucking unbelievable!!! But also totally predictable, you should run far and fast OP!

LittleOwl153 · 24/01/2024 12:09

How far are you from your support mechanisms/family? The one thing I woukd say is if you are not easy distance from them I'd move, now, before you give birth. The reason this is important is that he can stop you moving (or actually stop the child moving) after birth - but not before. In your situation I woukd want to be within easy reach of my support.

Only other suggestion is drag him to family counselling and tell himnif he doesn't cut out the abuse you will leave and be done with it.