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Ex-lover has died and never got over us

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Starclock · 12/01/2024 10:06

I’m full of so many emotions about this. Apologies if it’s a long one.

Fifteen years ago I was married to my now Ex-H. It wasn’t right for either of us, and I started an affair with a married man (you can be judgey about that if you want, but be gentle please). Ex-H also had an affair and we ended up divorcing reasonably amicably, which was finalised about ten years ago.

The affair I had was the most intense relationship of my life. He felt the same. We talked about leaving our respective spouses for one another at the beginning but realised that the intensity we felt was probably not ‘real’, and that to damage our kids, wreck our marriages etc was too big a step to take.

Over time the relationship evolved. We sometimes went a long time without doing anything about physical, as we both felt bad about our marriages. But the ‘mental’ affair didn’t stop. We would text 50 times a day, talk on the phone for an hour every day, and this went on for nearly seven years. He was the closest friend I’ve ever had.

During this time we both had moments where we wanted to make a go of it with each other. But these moments never coincided! The kids were still kids, I had my divorce to get through, we both moved house (putting an hours distance between us), I lost my parents, and although we were absolutely there for one another throughout (he was the first person I rang when my mum died, and he stayed with me all night) it wasn’t a proper relationship. The betrayal, the practical difficulties and the nagging doubt that it still wasn’t ‘real’ held us back.

Eventually, about five years ago, I grasped the nettle and told him that I wanted a proper relationship with someone who lived close by and could be with me properly. He was very upset at the prospect of losing our closeness. By this time it really was just an intimate friendship, rather than a physical affair. But he said that there was no way I could legitimately have a new partner and continue with a relationship like that with him (he was right!) so after a few torrid months of me dating and trying not to mention it to Mr Affair, I met a man. I went NC with Mr Affair, and he totally respected that as the only option. He was extremely upset, and were it not for the man I had started seeing i’d have been the same.

Things didn’t work out with the new man really. We split up after a year or so, and there’s been nobody major since. I stayed NC with Mr Affair because I didn’t want to open old wounds, interrupt his life now etc, and the old problems of his marriage, our kids and the physical distance remained.

A couple of weeks ago I received a letter from a friend of Mr Affair, telling me that he’d died. I was shocked and so, so sad for him and his family, and for myself. It was a total shock. The friend told me that he’d written to me because Mr Affair had wanted him to pass on something to me. It was another letter, written to me by Mr Affair. It was so beautiful, telling me that he never stopped loving me, that I had been the finest person he’d ever met, and that he was so sorry that things ended how they did.

During our relationship, Mr Affair and I had a joint email account. He used to write me little love notes and silly things, and send them there. When we went NC I stopped checking it. His letter told me to check it so that he could prove that he meant what he said in his letter. When I logged on I was completely poleaxed to discover that he’d continued to write to me from the time we’d gone NC right almost until the very end. Not all the time, but every few weeks when he said he missed me or had seen something he’d known we’d have liked sharing. Every one of mine and the kids’ birthdays, every Christmas and new year he’d written as well. They were all full of love and sadness, jokes and silly little things, wishing me nothing but the best.

My heart just dissolved. He was such a lovely, wonderful man. I know we both fucked up with our affair but he was convinced that I was the love of his life, and now I wonder whether he was right and whether he was mine!

Clearly he’s gone now, so it’s not like I can ring him up and suggest that we give it a go. I don’t even know what advice I’m looking for. ‘Get over it!’ probably. Or ‘apologise to his poor wife,
you selfish cow’ from some of you, I suspect But it was such a Sliding Doors type memory, and to read all that he’d written… It was so beautiful and it took me back to such happy places.

I am so very sad he’s gone. RIP beautiful man x

OP posts:
Whataretheodds · 12/01/2024 15:19

You can mourn it for what it was. Because it never had to handle real-life tensions: bins, nappies, washing up, mortgages, it will always seem as though it was or could have been perfect. But you also know that it wasn't and it probably wouldn't have been.

Find a way to grieve privately (counselling may be an idea so that you don't act out anger or resentment in the rest of your life) and absolutely right that you don't go anywhere near his wife or other family.

MaggieNextDoor · 12/01/2024 16:11

I'm now wondering if Mr Affair isn't actually dead but testing the water to see if he can weasel his way back into OP's life Shock

beatrix1234 · 12/01/2024 16:52

Apologies for being blunt but this man didn’t care for you, he didn’t love you. A person who cares for you doesn’t hook you up in a relationship knowing he’s never going to leave his wife, a person who cares for you let’s you move on with your life and be happy, nor he continues sending you bloody messages while you’re in a new relationship trying to stop you from moving on, then sends his flying monkey to send you a letter that is clearly going to have your head spinning. This is not what loving people do. That man was selfish, wanting his cake and eat it too and never had your best interests at heart OP, this is not love. Stop the limerence and get some therapy.

SamW98 · 12/01/2024 17:12

ItsBeenRaining · 12/01/2024 14:41

What a horrible story.

At least he's got one person who understood his legacy.

That of a liar and a cheat.

Yep all romanticised as a cheap Mills and Boon

EcclesCakesPlz · 12/01/2024 17:29

So in all the years you new him, he never left his marriage- but you did- is that right?

I can see it's 'flattering' in a way to have had someone writing what he did, but to be honest, the fact he didn't leave his wife shows what he really felt.

He chose the devil he knew, rather than the devil he didn't.

It could also be seen as rather cruel to lead you to those messages on his death. He surely knew you'd think about the emails, but it's too late to change anything.

You each made your choices- you to leave your marriage but he didn't leave his.

He had the chance and choice to do that.

ItsBeenRaining · 12/01/2024 17:32

Christ, looks like he wanted to control your mind and manipulate you even after death.

betterangels · 12/01/2024 17:50

ItsBeenRaining · 12/01/2024 17:32

Christ, looks like he wanted to control your mind and manipulate you even after death.

Yes! There's nothing romantic about this.

The poor wife as well if she finds out/discovers the email account. What massive betrayal.

Usernamechange1234 · 12/01/2024 20:15

Heart breaks for his wife and children. Hope they never find out what an utter arse he was!

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theduchessofspork · 12/01/2024 20:31

I think this is pretty normal grief OP

Morality aside, it was a major love affair.

You had what you had, and that was quite a lot. There’s no point regretting that you didn’t go for it - that may well have been the right decision, both because of the hurt it would have caused his wife and children, and because intense affairs do not always become happy marriages. Perhaps it would have worked of course… but you were never in a place to make it happen at the same time, and that may well be because you both preferred it to remain and affair, rather than have it crumple in the cold light of bills, and maintenance payments and divorce courts.

I think the emails are a pretty remarkable memory bank.

Give yourself a chance to process it all and have some counselling if you need it. Like any loss he’ll always be part of your life, the pain will fade to manageable levels and you will have other relationships.

AltitudeCheck · 13/01/2024 11:23

I hope your time with him, his letter and the emails give you comfort that you were loved and in his thoughts even when you were NC. Sorry for your loss and the pain you feel as you grieve.

I believe it is possible to love different people, in different ways at the same time and the same person, in many different ways, for a very long time.

beatrix1234 · 13/01/2024 11:31

I’m seeing a lot of romanticising bread crumbing, toxic relationships and limerence on this thread. I hope those who tell the OP to “hold on to the good memories” of a married man who never left his wife thus continued pursuing the OP when she was trying to move on raise their bar a bit with men.

TempleOfBloom · 13/01/2024 11:47

Very complex OP, and I can understand you are churned up.

Someone who had been a big major love for me died a while ago. We developed exciting work together, inspired and motivated each other, were passionate lovers. However, he had big unresolved demons and a chaotic strand in his life that (thankfully, overall) held me back from committing to a permanent life with him and like you, over a particular incident, we decided NC was the only way to be.

In some ways MrAffair’s marriage and his decision to stay in it played the same role as my exes chaotic incident.

My ex make contact when he was terminally ill, 15 years later, asked me to come, now, and I did. We had some important moments, and unlike you, I had the chance to be part of an ending. It also gave me the perspective to know that close as we still were, as immediately as our communication picked up, it was nevertheless right that we had not been together.

In the end MrAffair did not leave his wife. Even after long enough for the kids to have grown. What you had wasn’t not-real or unimportant, but it was in a bubble.

Look back on that bubble, value the memories but value your own life now, too.

Don’t beat yourself up, or eat yourself up with ‘what ifs’ … and definitely don’t apologise to his wife unless she knew all about it. And you have proof of that (I.e not just his word).

RedHelenB · 13/01/2024 11:57

Intriguedbythis · 12/01/2024 10:56

all sounds very dramatic with an awful lot of rose tinted view on a cheating married man with very selfish behaviour…

This. Sounds like you were both in some fantasy romantic world, not reality at all .

Moier · 13/01/2024 12:14

This sounds very much like a novel I've just read
Bittersweet.
R.I.P to the man that got away.
Love to you and his family.
🌺

notanoxfordcomma · 13/01/2024 12:17

OP.
As much as the circumstances weren't ideal, you were lucky to have this bond. I'm so sorry he is gone and I hope that your memories of his aren't overshadowed by the situation.

DivorceDay · 13/01/2024 12:23

OP I'm sorry this is a tough time for you, understandably, but he is not such an amazing man if he has a wife and children and (presumably) lied and kept hidden your relationship. An amazing man wouldn't have done this.

Kittylala · 13/01/2024 13:17

What a nasty, selfish and cruel man. He got his revenge!

Mittens1717 · 13/01/2024 13:44

Dartmoorcheffy · 12/01/2024 11:49

This is all a bit Sex and the City. I'm sure there was an episonde where one of them discovered a load of emails in the same situation..

I was thinking the same thing! In the first movie Carrie discovers a load of emails Big sent her while they were separated...

UtterlyButterly2048 · 13/01/2024 16:01

Jesus. My first thought is that I hope his wife never finds that email account. There was another thread on here from a woman whose DH had died unexpectedly and she found all the correspondence from a many years long affair. She’d had absolutely no idea and It broke her. It’s one of the most awful things I’ve ever read on here and yet I notice you’ve given no thought to his wife or dc at all?
My second thought is why on earth are you romanticising a cheat and a liar? Most of the time, affairs are just two selfish, insecure, damaged people, using each other to fill the emotional void that they can’t fill in themselves. It’s fantasy bullshit. You gave him the chance to be with you and he chose to stay with his wife. That says it all. You were right to go NC with him. Leave him in the past.

Foreverfriends33 · 29/07/2025 13:50

I agree, better to have loved and lost, experienced this than not having had this experience. Nothing is ever lost or wasted in life. Also no judgement, I was in a similar situation once, but i don't think mine loved me as much as yours did. His wife found out. I apologised but she didn't want to stay friends with me understandably. I ended the association with him, years ago. As I didn't want his wife to be hurt anymore by it. I also sensed he didn't really love or respect me long term. I always wished him well and i think he and his wife grew closer together in time.. A mutual acquaintance told me of his death last year, uncannily on my partners birthday strangely enough. His passing was also a shock to me. But we weren't as soulfully invested, connected though. I told my partner of this but it happened years ago before i met my partner. He is ok with things in my past. It's good you have meaningful special memories shared with him and letters from him. (emails). Hold onto, savour, honour the memories, the experiences you had together and keep being true to yourself and get to know your soul, spend time alone and with family, friends, it is always healing to spend time alone and in nature, perhaps meditation or do things you enjoy, hobbies etc

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