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Hand washing - am I being unreasonable?

77 replies

Doglover321 · 27/11/2023 12:45

Hi everyone,

I have been with my boyfriend on and off for two years now. Hygiene and hand washing has frequently been an issue, with him doing things like refusing to wash his hands after using public toilets for a number 2. We spent a week in Blackpool together and fell out because of his lack of hand washing. I told him that he would make us sick one of these days. Then, about 5 months later, we went to Benidorm together for 2 weeks. He caught norovirus and then I caught it off him 2 days later and it ruined my holiday. I was bed-bound for over a week! I am 26 and prior to this experience, I had not had a proper tummy bug since I was 9-years-old.

Despite how unwell we were in Benidorm, he is still refusing to wash his hands. We were having a lovely time at a local pub when he came back to the table with unwashed hands. He tried lying about washing them before eventually fessing up! I told him to please go back and wash them. He refused and said going back in would make him look like a drug dealer?

And then on a different occasion we went to the cinema together. We were sat there enjoying hotdogs and sharing a bag of popcorn when he decided to touch the very bottom of his shoe while eating these finger foods. The film had just started. I told him to quickly go and wash his hands before continuing to share popcorn with me. He refused, before calling me obsessive in front of the audience. I ended up walking out.

After this incident, we went to our local pub together where he touched the bottom of his shoe again before trying to lie about it when I asked him to wash his hands because we were eating.

Then, we were in IKEA together yesterday. He was touching absolutely everything, and I mean everything. Every doorknob, every oven knob, every touchscreen. Literally everything he could see. Which is absolutely fine. But I asked him to wash his hands because we were about to head to the cinema to see the same film we were meant to see before and he had such a negative attitude and started raising his voice at me in IKEA. Apparently it wasn’t convenient because the toilet was on a different level and we were near the place cutlery might have been and he wanted to get cutlery for the house.

He reassures me he now washes his hands at work, but I am doubtful since he’s still telling me he wouldn’t have washed his hands if he was in IKEA alone.

I just think it’s selfish when we live together and I don’t think my hand washing expectations are particularly unreasonable. I don’t actually wash my hands after using the loo at home. I only wash them when handling rubbish or touching a bin (he won’t wash his hands after touching the bin that the rubbish man has just emptied either), when I’m about to chop veggies or handle meat/after handling raw meat, after touching a lift button, trolley or shop door before eating finger foods. That sort of thing. Oh and we also have a no shoes in the house rule. I’ve done my research and he’s been sent and read so many articles by now that I just don’t know what to do!! Have been trying to educate him on the importance of hand washing and he still doesn’t understand it. Someone help haha x

OP posts:
Tinkerbyebye · 27/11/2023 16:48

Why are you even with him. An absolute deal breaker. He is not going to change

Dery · 27/11/2023 16:52

His lack of hand-washing before food and after the toilet is disgusting and I couldn’t stay with someone like that but I think you should always wash your hands after going to the loo - even for a no 1 in your own home. Just use moisturiser on your hands to stop them getting too dry.

flowerchild2000 · 27/11/2023 16:58

Even after getting norovirus (which is spread by not washing after #2) you still don't wash your hands after? You're just as bad as him. You're both disgusting and I wish I hadn't read that.

NorthernSpirit · 27/11/2023 17:01

This would be an absolute deal breaker for me.

I work in the food industry - so am completely OCD about handwashing.

I would have thought post Covid (and it being recommended to wash hands for 20 seconds etc after touching stuff etc) he would have learnt some basic hygiene.

Can you imagine having children with someone like this and him touching a baby after having a shit? I couldn’t eat anything he’s made as I’d be worried he hadn’t washed his hands before food prep.

Dump the dirty bastard.

castahay · 27/11/2023 17:02

He's grim but as you don't wash your hands either - you're both as bad as each other. Start practising what you preach.

Andthereyougo · 27/11/2023 17:07

Have neither of you heard of hand gel?
And you should be washing your hands every time you use the toilet, no matter how many times a day. Wash your hands and then use hand cream.
Frankly I’d bin him off, he sounds quite gross. And who randomly touches the soles of their shoes?

Lilibert456 · 27/11/2023 17:08

It is disgusting and I would have to ditch him . You should also wash your hands after using the loo everytime. We also wash our hands after blowing our nose. The amount of people who use snotty tissues and hankies repeatedly spreading viruses.

Doglover321 · 27/11/2023 17:10

This is another thing actually, he uses his hands instead of a tissue….

OP posts:
cakesque · 27/11/2023 17:11

Doglover321 · 27/11/2023 17:10

This is another thing actually, he uses his hands instead of a tissue….

How can you let him touch you!

LucyvanderPelt · 27/11/2023 17:12

@cakesque and everything else he touches in their house.

@Doglover321 He sounds disgusting, but surely you knew that before you moved in with him. He won’t change, so you can learn to live with it or leave him.

MaggieBsBoat · 27/11/2023 17:14

You are both gross and you are hypocritical.
What’s worse is that you’ve allowed this man to touch your vulva/vagina with those hands. Where’s your self- respect.
He won’t change.
Dump him. Or he’ll dump you. You’re both gross.

Lilibert456 · 27/11/2023 17:34

Doglover321 · 27/11/2023 17:10

This is another thing actually, he uses his hands instead of a tissue….

Oh please. This has to be a wind up.

DoppelgängerTimes · 27/11/2023 23:13

Doglover321 · 27/11/2023 17:10

This is another thing actually, he uses his hands instead of a tissue….

I hope you meant his nose…
That would be the lesser of two evils.

cheshirebloke · 28/11/2023 01:18

In some ways you sound a bit OCD about it - you say you wash your hands after touching a lift button?? What about door handles? But then you say you don't wash your own hands after going to the toilet at home. Which is about as low as the bar could be when it comes to personal hygiene.

deuck · 28/11/2023 02:14

I don’t actually wash my hands after using the loo at home."

You sound as bad as him. I think that's just as revolting, especially as you use the loo often. Use hand cream if you're worried about dry hands. We have a dispenser on the sink next to the hand wash.

Josette77 · 28/11/2023 02:17

I feel like you are both really icky.

I have eczema. I always wash my hands because eewweww.

deuck · 28/11/2023 02:17

Doglover321 · 27/11/2023 17:10

This is another thing actually, he uses his hands instead of a tissue….

Oh, is this one of 'those' threads? You had me there for a minute.

PeacefulPottering · 28/11/2023 02:30

Have read the thread and I know you are insane absolute bonkers

FiveShelties · 28/11/2023 02:35

Doglover321 · 27/11/2023 17:10

This is another thing actually, he uses his hands instead of a tissue….

Course he does.

Good attempt though.

Marchitectmummy · 28/11/2023 03:14

Yuk nasty bad hygiene from both of you, so pleased I chose a man who likes to be clean to marry.

Linked but not the same but I'm always shocked at the amount of women who come out of a toilet, look in the mirror, touch their hair and their face then wash their hands. Why do people dp that, I'm desperate to get my hands clean after going in a toilet and watch people around me basically rubbing toilet filth into their hair and face. Yuk.

Opentooffers · 28/11/2023 03:45

I always wash my hands after using the loo, anything less is grim, no matter where you are. Not sure how you'd know if a man has washed their hands in a public loo. Can't say I've ever asked any BF's in my life, nor would I think to as that is parenting them. I'd hope they do, but do I think to obsess about it? Nope.
If a man thought it appropriate to show off about not doing it, however, it would be a total tirn off.

FarEast · 28/11/2023 05:55

I don’t actually wash my hands after using the loo at home.

yuk!

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 28/11/2023 06:34

Doglover321 · 27/11/2023 17:10

This is another thing actually, he uses his hands instead of a tissue….

After a no1? I thought most guys just gave it a shake. You never see toilet paper at a urinal.

After a no2? That would be so skanky I wouldn't go near him with a barge pole.

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 28/11/2023 06:37

What I don't understand is why you are still with him? There is nothing that will change him. He lies about it (or tries to).

You need to accept this - and find some proper Castile Soap and wash your hands with it every time you use the loo. Practice what you preach!

lljkk · 28/11/2023 06:44

7/10. U got many going, I'll give you that.

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