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What would be your view of a woman knowingly being with a domestically abusive partner?

65 replies

ChickenAndRice3 · 21/11/2023 12:57

Context is.
My ex is in a new relationship. He was found to be domestically abusive against me and our daughter and currently only has supervised contact in a contact centre.
I have been made aware by a professional that his new partner is aware of some of the circumstances as to why he is having supervised contact and supports him.
For further context, ALL of ex's relationships have been domestically abusive..
I am only concerned about this now as ex has now put forward his new partner as a potential contact supervisor to be assessed by the family court/CAFCASS.
I have been made aware she is aware of his background and some of the concerns from CAFCASS.
How would you feel about this information?

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Squeaky2023 · 21/11/2023 15:39

"I subjected DD to his abuse by staying and not being brave enough to protect her until I left, I make no excuses for that"

No you didn't, love, he did that, NOT YOU.
You aren't superwoman. You'd have needed the help from society that just isn't there, you'd have been so beaten down mentally that it must have been a monumental task to get out at all, no matter how late.
It's him, your abusive ex who did all the exposing of your child to violence and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

ChickenAndRice3 · 21/11/2023 15:50

Squeaky2023 · 21/11/2023 15:39

"I subjected DD to his abuse by staying and not being brave enough to protect her until I left, I make no excuses for that"

No you didn't, love, he did that, NOT YOU.
You aren't superwoman. You'd have needed the help from society that just isn't there, you'd have been so beaten down mentally that it must have been a monumental task to get out at all, no matter how late.
It's him, your abusive ex who did all the exposing of your child to violence and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Thank you xx I appreciate you standing up for me.
@susanu67 doesn't have a clue what she is rabbiting on about and just sees it through rose tinted glasses.

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Mari9999 · 21/11/2023 15:53

@Squeaky2023
Abusive men should be treated as the abusers that they are. Women who stay in these abusive relationships should also be recognized as co-participants in the abuse of their children. The children are no less damaged because the mother's motivation was different than the abusive father's motivation.

Would it be reasonable for the courts to say that the child should not see the mother without supervised contact because she has proven herself incapable of protecting the child? I don't think that a late stage come to Jesus epiphany or strength does much to undo the damage that was done to the child. The child would probably be better off with both parents only being permitted supervised contact for an extensive period.

Neither fathering nor giving birth is an automatic indicator that you are capable of being a protective parent.

Goodornot · 21/11/2023 15:55

I'd wonder why you were with him if all his relationships before you were abusive too.

Why are you asking what people think of this woman when you should have known too or fell for a story?

megletthesecond · 21/11/2023 15:57

He's probably being a shit to her but she can't get out yet.
I've seen it happen.

ChickenAndRice3 · 21/11/2023 15:58

I actually didn't know about his domestic history until I left him. It was only during court proceedings I was made aware about his police history. I didn't know about Claire's law at the time, I only found out about it when I left him.
I am completely in agreement with @Mari9999 - however the difference is, I haven't been assessed by the Court as a risk to DD, nor have I ever been. There's no excuse for staying as long as I did and prioritising her father over her, I will feel guilty about that forever, however I did find the strength to leave, that wasn't easy, that took everything, I left everything and ended up with just the t shirt on my back, a bag of belongings and DD.

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Thisisworsethananticpated · 21/11/2023 16:36

She’s a fucking idiot
and she’ll learn the hard way

im so sorry 😞

ChickenAndRice3 · 21/11/2023 19:01

This is my fear. I don't want her to learn the hard way and our daughter is subjected to it.

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PaintedEgg · 21/11/2023 19:06

I would think she is in danger, then that she probably had past that makes her an easy target for abusers

ChickenAndRice3 · 21/11/2023 20:11

I met my ex when I was an all time low so I can understand the low self esteem part.

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ChickenAndRice3 · 22/11/2023 08:09

PaintedEgg · 21/11/2023 19:06

I would think she is in danger, then that she probably had past that makes her an easy target for abusers

She has her own kids too

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VanityDiesHard · 22/11/2023 12:33

You are no different from her, because if he had abused women before you, then you believed him as well.

Goodornot · 22/11/2023 13:02

VanityDiesHard · 22/11/2023 12:33

You are no different from her, because if he had abused women before you, then you believed him as well.

Quite. You believed him. Or didn't spot it.

ChickenAndRice3 · 22/11/2023 13:16

I'm not judging in any way, I merely asked what people would think.

And yes, I do agree I fell for his lies. I didn't deny that.

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MrTiddlesTheCat · 22/11/2023 13:19

Her willingness to be in a relationship with him, knowing what she knows, shows that she is wholly unsuitable to supervise contact. Her judgment regarding his behaviour cannot be trusted.

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