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Mum being unfair with Grandchildren

26 replies

HollyBerri · 31/10/2023 08:06

Hi. Am not sure where to post this but i am so pissed off with my mum (and sister) right now.
For context i have 2 siblings and growing up mum was horrible to me a lot of the time. We do get along okay now though. We both make an effort. My dc love her.
She has always really favoured 1 sister in particular and its gone over to our children which is so hurtful. All siblings have dc but me & dsis have children the same age who are very close - best friends as well as cousins.
i am positive mum has in the last 12 months has bough my sisters child 2 very expensive items and then both dsis & mum have lied about it whilst my dc has had nothing. Its hard to say what exactly without being very outing but both times it was something my dc wanted aswell & we had to save for & bought budget versions.
its so bloody hurtful and its the lies aswell. On both occasions it was really obvious because of the convoluted stories about where the money came from when clearly it was from Gran. On this occasion its so obvious- they both rushed to tell us (separately) about how they had managed to obtain this bargain 1 off item at a fraction of what it should have cost etc. Both dh and I have said to each other its bullshit - my mum had bought it.
i don’t want to fall out as life’s to short but how to I handle it? I could easily quiz both of them and catch out them by picking at the holes in the story but for what reason? Its just so hurtful - am sure dc can see it to. The last time both my older dc said to me privately its obvious who really bought the items.
I usually stay out of there way as Im so annoyed but its harder with Christmas (and a big family birthday) coming up. I want to tell them to cut the bullshit but i know it will cause an argument as both will deny & be very defensive.

OP posts:
supercali77 · 31/10/2023 08:22

Thats so hurtful. Personally, I would say nothing and reduce my contact. Its either that or call bullshit openly on the entire thing.

The problem with all these kinds of furtive family situations is that...you say something and they double down on the lie. Accuse you of jealousy/paranoia. Or being 'money grabbing' etc. Anything to deflect from themselves. And then you just end up feeling like crap without getting any kind of apology

Dacadactyl · 31/10/2023 08:34

Is your sister on her own with the kids/really struggling for money?

PierceMorgansChin · 31/10/2023 08:40

I'm in a similar situation with my ex MIL, where my child gets socks and pj's for Xmas and other granddaughter newest IPHONE, money, laptop, new bike, holidays and so on. It's nothing to do with me what another adult does with their money and I wouldn't lower myself to start demanding explanation or act hurt about it. Yes it's fucked up, my kid knows what's up. You can't control others, your mother is allowed to not buy your children nothing and you and yours are allowed not to visit her in a nursing home

SeulementUneFois · 31/10/2023 08:44

You need to start reducing contact.
Do it in a way that suits you.
Still meeting them when it suits you/ DC, but not to do stuff for your mum/sis, or when it's not convenient for you.

mikado1 · 31/10/2023 08:47

I would probably say, pointedly, 'Oh next time you see that bargain can you get one for my DC too?' They'd love one.' Folowed by death stare.

Loubelle70 · 31/10/2023 08:52

I had this. My DD when about 5. Other grandkids expensive presents, my child, £ shop stuff. Easter, they all got big easter eggs, in front of other grandkids, they gave my DD a creme egg. I walked out and went to buy her the biggest F*off egg you've ever seen...took it up to parents, gave it her in front of others and said 'you eat every morsel my sweetheart, you deserve a big easter egg'
Btw she was the sweetest child. I didn't take her up again

PierceMorgansChin · 31/10/2023 08:55

mikado1 · 31/10/2023 08:47

I would probably say, pointedly, 'Oh next time you see that bargain can you get one for my DC too?' They'd love one.' Folowed by death stare.

You think your scary facial expressions can turn crappy grandma into loving one? How about cutting contact with a toxic person and buying that coveted item for your your own child?

Mindymomo · 31/10/2023 08:55

I think I would have to say something to DM along the lines we’re really struggling with paying for presents for Xmas this year and we won’t be able to buy ours the same expensive presents like sister does for her DC, is she able to help. I would also say to sister if you see a bargain please let me know so I can get the same for my DC.

billy1966 · 31/10/2023 08:56

Your poor treatment is going into the next generation and your children are clearly aware.

There is no point mentioning it as its your mothers business what she spends her money on.

I would pull back.

Do other things with your children.

Invest in other relationships.

See them when you feel suits you but invest in other things.

You cannot change your awful mother but you can control how often you engage with her.

This is not nice for your children to be around.

RudsyFarmer · 31/10/2023 08:57

To be honest it was thus kind of nonsense that broke our family apart, so you are a better person than me to put up with it at all. I was so annoyed at being treated like I was stupid that I just cut contact.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 31/10/2023 08:58

She is still horrible to you, she has not changed fundamentally or at all for that matter in all the years since. This is a far more serious situation that just a falling out as well; your sister is the golden child in your family of origin and you are the scapegoat for all their inherent ills. As a result your children are also scapegoated.

Make yourselves far less available to them going forward and do this in a way that suits you. Such favouritism should not be at all tolerated by you.

Laffydaffy · 31/10/2023 08:58

This is so hurtful, OP. Parents have the responsibility to ensure that their children are treated fairly and equally, as much as possible. And if they have favorites, to keep it to themselves. There is very little that hurts and destroys trust more than witnessing blatant favourtism and subsequent gas-lighting. To have it happen to your own children just demonstrates how entrenched and selfish their behaviour is.

My family had similar dynamics with regards to favouritism. For example, they did and have done very little to celebrate my birthday (no cake, no presents were normal) while my brother got designer clothes, motorbikes as a young kid and new cars as an independent, married, well-paid adult. It was done secretly, and whenever I found out about it, it was minimised (oh, no, it wasn't that expensive) or I was gaslighted and told I was imagining things and being dramatic.

Every few years outside of my birthday, I would receive something extremely expensive, such as a 2000 dollar musical instrument, that I had not needed or requested, and then made to feel guilty about how much it had cost. For years. I wonder now if this was their way of addressing the inequality, of assuaging the guilt.

As an adult, this transferred to our children. I addressed it once more and my mum reacted the same way as when I was a child. That I was imagining things and I was always so dramatic. The things is, I could see she knew I knew, but she still denied and turned it back on me. Still as hurtful as when I was a child.

I knew it would keep repeating and so we have very little contact. We also live overseas, so that helps.

PierceMorgansChin · 31/10/2023 09:02

Mindymomo · 31/10/2023 08:55

I think I would have to say something to DM along the lines we’re really struggling with paying for presents for Xmas this year and we won’t be able to buy ours the same expensive presents like sister does for her DC, is she able to help. I would also say to sister if you see a bargain please let me know so I can get the same for my DC.

How about being an adult and providing for your own children rather than begging toxic, uncaring person for presents? How about explaining to your children that you are struggling this year but you can make up for modest presents with time attention given to them? Why do you have to keep with your sister kids?

mikado1 · 31/10/2023 09:03

PierceMorgansChin · 31/10/2023 08:55

You think your scary facial expressions can turn crappy grandma into loving one? How about cutting contact with a toxic person and buying that coveted item for your your own child?

Very strange amd overreaction to my suggestion.

I couldn't do what one of OP's suggestion is, which to to say nothing so I just said I'd have to call it out, even to some extent, so they don't think they're taking me for a complete fool. Obviously OP can ignore my take on it, but problem.

Loubelle70 · 31/10/2023 09:04

AttilaTheMeerkat · 31/10/2023 08:58

She is still horrible to you, she has not changed fundamentally or at all for that matter in all the years since. This is a far more serious situation that just a falling out as well; your sister is the golden child in your family of origin and you are the scapegoat for all their inherent ills. As a result your children are also scapegoated.

Make yourselves far less available to them going forward and do this in a way that suits you. Such favouritism should not be at all tolerated by you.

This

PierceMorgansChin · 31/10/2023 09:10

mikado1 · 31/10/2023 09:03

Very strange amd overreaction to my suggestion.

I couldn't do what one of OP's suggestion is, which to to say nothing so I just said I'd have to call it out, even to some extent, so they don't think they're taking me for a complete fool. Obviously OP can ignore my take on it, but problem.

Your pointed tone of voice, sarcastic question and 'death stare' is not a flex you think it is. It shows that toxic unfair person how much you are affected by it, she really got you there! I cut contact with toxic grandma, and bought my kid whatever she wanted (within reason) myself. Posters think they can somehow make grandma playing favourites change her ways. Not going to happen

mikado1 · 31/10/2023 09:13

PierceMorgansChin · 31/10/2023 09:10

Your pointed tone of voice, sarcastic question and 'death stare' is not a flex you think it is. It shows that toxic unfair person how much you are affected by it, she really got you there! I cut contact with toxic grandma, and bought my kid whatever she wanted (within reason) myself. Posters think they can somehow make grandma playing favourites change her ways. Not going to happen

They are trying to hide it and excuse it so they care to some extent what OP thinks.

Anyway, this has clearly hit a nerve with you. I'm not sure if you realise how your posts are coming across. I didn't say it was a 'flex' at all, merely shared what I'd do.

LadyBird1973 · 31/10/2023 09:19

You are doing your children a disservice if you continue to expose them to this sort of behaviour. It's your job to protect them, not allow your mother to transfer the damage she's done to you, onto your children.
You say that life is too short to fall out - life is too short to put up with nastiness and favouritism and all the sad feelings that come with it.

Personally I would call this out - I would tell both my mum and my sister that they are obviously lying and I would cut my losses.

It really isn't to the benefit of your children to repeatedly be exposed to this - as they get older they will notice and it will hurt. As their mum you need to spare them from that!

miniegg3 · 31/10/2023 09:26

We have this crap on my DHs side, not so much buying stuff but just time spent with the grandchildren and attention given. Tried speaking to them nicely and pointing out how it makes DS feel but didn't help. Ended up just taking a huge step back from them. Children pick up on favouritism, and I don't want that for DS

HollyBerri · 31/10/2023 10:26

Wow so many replies- Thankyou. Ill read through them properly later. Financially i am in a similar position to dsis. We have a bigger house through dh’s inheritance & consequently are seen as being well off - would much rather have his parents here though.
it always hurts but this time more so for some reason.
i just don’t get how they can both do this without a hint of conscience (or it seems many of the other grandparents on here) My dc are aware too as they are young adults and not stupid.

OP posts:
PierceMorgansChin · 31/10/2023 11:00

mikado1 · 31/10/2023 09:13

They are trying to hide it and excuse it so they care to some extent what OP thinks.

Anyway, this has clearly hit a nerve with you. I'm not sure if you realise how your posts are coming across. I didn't say it was a 'flex' at all, merely shared what I'd do.

Im in same situation as OP! You didn't hit any nerve, rather made me cringe. All I said, cut the toxic person out rather than try and coerce them into giving money, time, attention, whatever

Ukholidaysaregreat · 31/10/2023 11:06

Piercemorganschin calm down! Too much yip! Just like the real thing!

Catoo · 31/10/2023 11:15

If your DC are young adults and old enough to understand what is going on, do you all manage to laugh about how stupid it all is?

If you still want regular contact I would start laughing about it in front of them.
Them: You’ll never guess what, a new X fell out of the sky into my hand this week.
You: WOW How fabulous. You’re so lucky this happened AGAIN. Things never fall out of the sky for us!

I mean I think I would just stay away but if DC enjoy spending time with cousins etc then maybe you have to just laugh at their stupidity and spitefulness. It won’t change if mother and sister have been enjoying this game for years. Maybe they have enjoyed your hurt and confusion? Don’t let them have any more of that. Maybe treat your DCs to something nice (favourite take outs etc) on days they’ve had one of these episodes so you turn it into a fun family experience?

Aren’t some people unnecessarily horrible??

OhwhyOY · 31/10/2023 11:25

I would call it out and say your lies are so obvious even the kids see through them easily. Then tell them their behaviour, both the unfairness and the lies, means you and the kids will be stepping back from them. Life is too short to spend it with people who break your heart tiny piece by tiny piece.

PierceMorgansChin · 31/10/2023 11:44

Ukholidaysaregreat · 31/10/2023 11:06

Piercemorganschin calm down! Too much yip! Just like the real thing!

Why don't you try and add some more exclamation marks to your very valid contribution?