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Is it actually an Irish man thing or is ex lying?!

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Littlemisslonley · 17/10/2023 16:46

Hi all
So this is weird. My ex (he's irish) and I broke up 12 weeks ago as he was very innapropriate with a female "friend"...she would send selfies and he would reply that "you look gorgeous darling" and send love heart emojis...we broke up over the fact that she facetimed him at 1am I said he needs to back off abit from her and make firm boundaries...he didn't like that so he literally got up and left....later after we discussed some things and he said complimenting your female friends is an Irish thing we tell women they look gorgeous all the time and send love heart emojis to females it's an Irish thing....now I smell bullshit..... however I wanted to ask your opinions of this?

Also do all Irish men/women drink ALOT? Again I feel I know this answer but want your opinions

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Littlemisslonley · 18/10/2023 20:11

Thank you all so much......he is a complete and utter bastard isn't he maybe I should be glad I'm blocked by him....he's done me and my dcs a favour!!!

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ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 18/10/2023 20:40

Glad you are ride of him. As you said his issue isn't that he's Irish, his issue is he's full of shit.

I'm not offended by your OP, it's more naivety rather offensive but it would be the equivalent of me asking "do all English men start a fight at a football match?". Both are terrible stereotype that are in no way accurate.

GilberMarkham · 18/10/2023 21:01

Littlemisslonley · 18/10/2023 20:11

Thank you all so much......he is a complete and utter bastard isn't he maybe I should be glad I'm blocked by him....he's done me and my dcs a favour!!!

I'm not surprised things didn't work out with the mother of his child, put it that way.

ClareBlue · 18/10/2023 23:36

Well Ireland does have the 2nd or 3rd, depending on how it is measured, highest Alcohol consumption per capita in Europe, so there is a basis for the alcohol thing. And if you take into consideration the significant number of complete non alcohol drinkers then those that do drink, drink excessively on average.

TattoedLady · 19/10/2023 00:35

ClareBlue · 18/10/2023 23:36

Well Ireland does have the 2nd or 3rd, depending on how it is measured, highest Alcohol consumption per capita in Europe, so there is a basis for the alcohol thing. And if you take into consideration the significant number of complete non alcohol drinkers then those that do drink, drink excessively on average.

In 2019, Ireland's per capita alcohol consumption was 10th highest in the EU (10.8ltrs). By 2022 that had dropped to 17th (10.2ltrs per capita, down from 12ltrs per capita in 2008 and just 0.2ltr more than the UK).

https://data.oecd.org/healthrisk/alcohol-consumption.htm

Health risks - Alcohol consumption - OECD Data

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https://data.oecd.org/healthrisk/alcohol-consumption.htm

USaYwHatNow · 19/10/2023 00:41

Hmmm the text flirty bit is BS. However I am friends with an Irish couple, married and besotted with each other. The woman will greet me with 'hey gorg!' and her husband greets our female friends with 'hey beautiful!' or 'hey gorgeous!' and will openly compliment female friends way more than my English male friends do 🤷🏻‍♀️ he is a bit of a softy though and also my only Irish male friend so I can't really compare either 😂

Mudflaps · 19/10/2023 00:57

"How so? Its a common stereotype the Irish like a drink it's common for most people it's not offensive it's more of a jokey stereotype thing as far as I am aware".

Not all Irish men behave like your ex just like not all Irish find 'the common stereotype jokey, in fact a lot of us don't drink alcohol at all and are utterly sick of the stereotypebeing carried through another generation. It is offensive despite what you say. I'm sorry you have been mistreated but I assure the his nationality has nothing to do with it, unfortunately you chose to have a relationship with a lying prick. Hopefully you'll never hear from him again.

Littlemisslonley · 19/10/2023 07:56

Thanks again all.

I understand that the "jokey sterotyping" opinion of mine obviously isn't jokey to some...every country has a stereotype thats misconstrude and I can see now how it is an outdated stereotype from back in the day and also 100% not an excuse for shitty behaviour and also offensive to others too so I am sorry if I offended anyone however I just want to point out it isn't my stereotype of the Irish this was an Irish man's stereotyping of the Irish I was questioning not Mt own 🙂

It hurts that he blocked me and vanished however your all right he's a horrible person to do this to me and vanish on me and my dcs he gas lighted me with this bullshit alot!

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Sayitaintso33 · 19/10/2023 10:59

I don't know if the Irish drink a lot but I do think that many of them handle their drink well.
I've known quite a few Irish men with a nice turn of phrase and some with a roving eye, but they all knew you don't get caught flirting with another woman at 1 o'clock in the morning.
Still credit to the lad. Rather than get angry, he tried to blather and bluff his way out of it rather than get angry. And when the bluff and blather didn't work he packed his bags and walked because he knew the game was up.

Opentooffers · 19/10/2023 11:16

Of more concern is that you stuck around for 18 months, yet say he was gushing about his 'godess' friend when you first met - big red flag, how did you ignore it then, more importantly, why did you ignore it?

romdowa · 19/10/2023 11:17

I'm irish and it just sounds like he's an asshole 🙄

Livelifelaughter · 19/10/2023 12:19

Sayitaintso33 · 19/10/2023 10:59

I don't know if the Irish drink a lot but I do think that many of them handle their drink well.
I've known quite a few Irish men with a nice turn of phrase and some with a roving eye, but they all knew you don't get caught flirting with another woman at 1 o'clock in the morning.
Still credit to the lad. Rather than get angry, he tried to blather and bluff his way out of it rather than get angry. And when the bluff and blather didn't work he packed his bags and walked because he knew the game was up.

Yep, I asked one if he was on an OLD site blatantly denied it, until I suggested I sent him a screenshot, then said it was an old post until I enlarged a document that showed the date. It made me really wonder what other shite I had believed...

Turfwars · 19/10/2023 14:33

Irish, living in Ireland with an Irish husband and many Irish BILs. I also work with oooh about 85 or so Irish men in an Irish office. And not a single one would give a compliment like that in an innocent context.

That kind of compliment is the one you give to someone hoping for the ride.

Your ex is a wanker and a cheater. Tell him you're dumping him due to your extreme xenophobia and inability to accept his "culture".

QueSyrahSyrah · 19/10/2023 14:36

In fairness I've known more than a few Irish men exactly like that over the years, but I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I could throw them.

(Caveat: I've also known perfectly decent none sleazy and trustworthy Irish men).

ILikeDinosaurs · 19/10/2023 14:44

NOT an Irish man thing. My partner is Irish and he would 100% never do this. And he doesn't drink that much either. Your ex is a gaslighting scumbag, sorry.

Anyfeckinusername · 19/10/2023 15:04

Turfwars · 19/10/2023 14:33

Irish, living in Ireland with an Irish husband and many Irish BILs. I also work with oooh about 85 or so Irish men in an Irish office. And not a single one would give a compliment like that in an innocent context.

That kind of compliment is the one you give to someone hoping for the ride.

Your ex is a wanker and a cheater. Tell him you're dumping him due to your extreme xenophobia and inability to accept his "culture".

100% agree!

And it's not an emotional affair as someone else said upthread. He just fancies her.

AnImaginaryCat · 19/10/2023 16:22

Littlemisslonley · 18/10/2023 11:09

So to sum it up his response to his clear red flags of "I'm just Irish" are just bullshit as I knew and thought and he is just a gas lighting bastard! Who just so happens to be Irish unfortunately without the Irish accent as he has been in England some time.

I always said he crossed my boundaries with this female friend and other female to be honest his other excuse was "I don't know how to be in a real relationship" or "your boundaries are ridiclous" he's 41 with a child I'm sure he knew how to be in a relationship and yet again more gaslighting with the BS.

At this point, you might even question if he was Irish!

Sounds like you have had a lucky escape. Total bullshitter who uses stereotypes to excuse himself.

Don't waste any more head space on him.

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